Romo Friendy Offense

[khiladi]

Totally agree, except with Moore. While not a starter by any means, the kid has something. I do not think it was coincidence that once he came in, the ball started going to the WR group a lot more than it was with Weeden and Cassel. I don't think either one could figure it out pre snap and wasn't quick enough in their decision making to make up for it after the snap so they were left with the outlet receiver to throw to most of the time. For a QB to be effective in this scheme, he must be able to read the D and see the mismatch pre snap. It takes a smart QB not necessarily one with a great arm.

Because he played 3 years under Linehan. Doesn't mean he was great, just better..

The other guys were Garrett picks and Linehan wanted Moore playing before they even brought Cassell here..

 

[khiladi]

What I wouldn't give to have an offensive master running our offense. Actually think the Linehan is held back by Garrett. I know Detroit did more stuff than this...

Bush was a weapon catching..

 

[khiladi]

Biggest travesty Jones has propagated on Cowboys fans in hiring a coach with two years experience as a qb coach to be our offensive coordinator, and then handing him the reigns on the whole team a couple years after that...

And that too, after the offense was struggling more and more each year..

 

[khiladi]

Kitna did pretty well in it.

He was basically average and turned the ball over like crazy.. And he basically takes risks..

The defense got a whipping 20 plus TOs in 8 games that year when he took over.

They tried the same thing this year, playing conservative defensively expecting TOs and only got 1 win on a botched punt return by Desean Jackson..

 

[khiladi]

Did you see Belichick yesterday? Had two chances to kick field goals with time remaining, and didn't. Totally botched it.

So Garrett is not Landry, but he's Bellichek now? When's Garrett's 2 TE formation based on what the Pats did years ago going to work?

 

[Rockport]

I know right.. These idiots can't see that everything has to be perfect for Garrett and it's just not perfect yet.

We'll have the last laugh one day Amberbeer when Jerry hand selects the perfect team.

12-4 last year and everything wasn't perfect.

 

[boyzjunkie]

I don't see much in Moore.

His pocket presence is horrendous. And if you don't have pocket presence, I don't think you can play in this league.


Three games as a starter and you have determined his pocket presence is horrendous.

Good luck finding a raw QB with great pocket presence. I'm sure it is possible. But likely? I doubt it.

Moore showed as much as a couple of guys who have been in the league for years. Give him a legitimate chance.






YR

 

[CATCH17]

12-4 last year and everything wasn't perfect.

Offensively it was a perfect storm to overcome a bad defense.


If we can impose our will on the ground then we can keep the defense off the field, rely less on Garretts scheme, but we still have to rely on Romo's improvisation

 

[Rockport]

Offensively it was a perfect storm to overcome a bad defense.


If we can impose our will on the ground then we can keep the defense off the field, rely less on Garretts scheme, but we still have to rely on Romo's improvisation

All teams rely on their QB.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Because he played 3 years under Linehan. Doesn't mean he was great, just better..

The other guys were Garrett picks and Linehan wanted Moore playing before they even brought Cassell here..

Didn't say he was great. Said he had something and was smart and could read a defense which the others struggled to do.

 

[casmith07]

I agree with Danny White's analysis on the offense. Garrett is a Saban disciple. And if you watch Saban's teams, particularly his defense...it's very no frills schematically. The idea is to be basic and become really good at those basic schemes instead of being complex and being good at some plays and weak at others. Lombardi was famous for this approach.

With backup QB's that do not have the talent, I think it's important to out-scheme the other team and get some open passes.

But, that doesn't mean it is 'too Romo friendly.' I think a quality QB like Matt Ryan could perform well in this scheme, too. He has the talent to make it work. But a QB like Weeden, Cassel or Moore do not have the talent to make it work.





YR

Well said.

 

[JohnsKey19]

The issue is the staff has to be able to adjust and change course when Romo isn't available at QB. The Romo friendly offense is fine, as long as Romo is on the field.

 

[DABOYZ]

I think he meant to say, make quick decisions and get rid of the ball within a couple of seconds if not less. Romo sometimes likes to hold the ball because of his ability to get out of trouble. Moore makes quick decisions, he just doesn't have the arm.

Yes, that's what I meant to say thanks for clarifying that. JG and the offensive scheme is definitely part of the problem. With that being said the QB has the option to audible before every snap. We know Romo uses the entire play clock on every play. So I guess I am wondering why he doesn't run plays that would take advantage of his lightning fast, quick release? Instead he holds on to the ball way to long. 1/3 of the time he escapes and makes a great play while the other 2/3 he throws a pick or gets sacked for a loss. I know that's probably not accurate but the odds just don't seem to be in our favor when he holds the ball for more than 5 seconds.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Three games as a starter and you have determined his pocket presence is horrendous.

Good luck finding a raw QB with great pocket presence. I'm sure it is possible. But likely? I doubt it.

Moore showed as much as a couple of guys who have been in the league for years. Give him a legitimate chance.

He's had a legit chance. He's been in the league for 4 years and never really made it past #3 QB status and we can see why. He's not overly athletic, but his movement in the pocket and understanding where to move...he just doesn't have a feel for it. And that's why he hasn't moved up past #3 on the QB list.






YR

 

[boyzjunkie]

YR. You could be right. But your view gives, in my opinion, too much credit to Jerry and Jason. You are implying that he was unable to show enough in practice to move ahead of Weeden and later Cassel.
My thought is that they, J&J, were fixating on 'experienced name backups' resulting in Moore not getting the playing time in practice to develop the pocket skills you feel he is deficient in.
LOL. But what would I know.

 

[Blake]

Fans are so stupid it's really comical.

I'm beginning to realize that you never actually offer any constructive or critical thoughts as to why fans should believe any differently than they do about Jason Garret and the direction of this franchise, negativity and insults fed towards them is all you have to offer it seems.

 

[SuspectCorner]

I don't see much in Moore.

His pocket presence is horrendous. And if you don't have pocket presence, I don't think you can play in this league.






YR

I think Moore sees the field well enough and has a sense for where the pressure is coming. But his release is only adequate and I don't see the ability to drive the ball on the out. The head is fine but the arm comes up short.

I like Kellen Moore but he has some serious deficiencies.

 

[Rockport]

I'm beginning to realize that you never actually offer any constructive or critical thoughts as to why fans should believe any differently than they do about Jason Garret and the direction of this franchise, negativity and insults fed towards them is all you have to offer it seems.

You haven't been following.

 

[Blake]

You haven't been following.

Sure I have, don't let my post count fool you, I've been with this forum since 2004 and read the posts of all of the regulars here. Through all that reading, it doesn't take long to spot a trend of habitually short (4 - 5 word tops) snarky remarks that lack any real substance which come from the likes of you.

 

[Rockport]

Sure I have, don't let my post count fool you, I've been with this forum since 2004 and read the posts of all of the regulars here. Through all that reading, it doesn't take long to spot a trend of habitually short (4 - 5 word tops) snarky remarks that lack any real substance which come from the likes of you.

No, you haven't been following.