Romo has better skill set than Brady

[khiladi]

you take away Brady and suddenly those passes that allow Welker to gain 10 extra yards are not so perfectly positioned. The guy is good and extremely accurate. He's mobile in the pocket, just slow outside of it.

Romo's good but I don't think you can compare him to Brady until he can at least *get* to a Superbowl.

Walker's average is 5 yards a pass, with a YAC of 5 yards. One doesn't have to be that accurate of a passer to hit a 5 yard pass, especially when a linebacker is the one covering Walker.

 

[Kilyin]

Moss changes everything

Unless you're Andrew Walter or Aaron Brooks?

 

[khiladi]

Brady is overrated in the same sense Troy was... put Troy on another team and his career would have been shorter (injury) and less superbowls.

Troy Aikman had 11 concussions. I don't think Brady has even one...

 

[khiladi]

I dont know that Brady is necessarily playing on another planet.... Its the MOSS factor.... look at Minny with ANY QB with Moss... Cunngham/all star year, Johnson/all star year, Culpepper/all star years.... never to see an all star year again.....

Moss changes everything

Interesting article, with the following quote:

One of Moss' former Vikings teammates once told me that he could tell whether Moss would have a big game on Sunday by the way the receiver practiced on Wednesday. Were he fully healthy and running unimpeded, Moss was headed for a monster outing. But the slightest twinge or discomfort could throw him off to the point where he'd be ineffective.
"A lot of that 'I play when I want to play' stuff is a smokescreen," the player insisted. "He'd rather have you think he doesn't care than have you realize that he's not physically tough."

Why not bust him in his chops and throw him off his game.. Out-physical him and run him off his routes, and make him work.

 

[AbeBeta]

Unless you're Andrew Walter or Aaron Brooks?

There is a certain quality level you need to be successful with Moss - even a washed up Kerry Collins put up good numbers with Moss around. Walter and Brooks are not good QBs at all.

Randal Cunningham, Jeff George, young, healthy Culpepper -- those were all guys who are decent QBs who put up very good seasons with Moss around.

Brady is clearly the best QB Moss has had and it shows in their production

 

[aikemirv]

maybe I am high on Tony Romo today but as I look at him....compared other elite QB like Brady....I actually think his skills are better. Brady on his best day can not escape a rush like Romo. Romo has a better ability to make a great play out of nothing. Romo has a quicker release. Brady throws the deep ball better....but that usually comes with more experience. Brady is also clutch in big games....but Romo is showing hints of being money with game on line. I am not saying Romo is a better QB....I am saying I think his skill set is as good or even better than Brady.

I did not read any other post in this thread but as far as skill set goes I don't think he is real close to Brady. As far as intangibles go, I think he is up there with him.

Romos ability to escape pressure and make something out of nothing are as good as anybody in the league but as far as mechanics, I think he could improve a lot in the pocket. His release is as good as anybodys as far as quickness there is nobody faster (release) in the NFL right now.

 

[royhitshard]

I am just happy that I have both Brady and Romo on my fantasy squad!!!!

 

[Doomsday101]

There is a certain quality level you need to be successful with Moss - even a washed up Kerry Collins put up good numbers with Moss around. Walter and Brooks are not good QBs at all.

Randal Cunningham, Jeff George, young, healthy Culpepper -- those were all guys who are decent QBs who put up very good seasons with Moss around.

Brady is clearly the best QB Moss has had and it shows in their production

I agree. I would also add NE pretty much gutted their entire WR core and brought in Moss, Welker and Stallworth with Gaffney the only WR to return from last season. Yet Brady has not missed a beat and is putting up numbers that look as if they will blow away every single season passing record in the NFL. To have that change over and be on the same page as these guys are is pretty remarkable.

 

[chinch]

Troy Aikman had 11 concussions. I don't think Brady has even one...

might have had 11 in a few seasons on a bad team.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Your high.. Your smoking the herb.

Cool Tom is in a league of his own. Brady throws a better deep ball because he has the arm to get it down field. Romo has very avergae arm strength, has issues stretching the field and underthrowing WR's

Brady has a good, not great arm

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Walker's average is 5 yards a pass, with a YAC of 5 yards. One doesn't have to be that accurate of a passer to hit a 5 yard pass, especially when a linebacker is the one covering Walker.

all you have to do is vary the velocity on your throw, don't throw it too hard, and know how to place the ball in front of the receiver while he's in stride, any experienced QB who is smart enough can complete those passes, it's a high percentage throw, you throw enough of them, and you should be completing a high percentage of your passes, now I'm not taking anything away from Brady, but all he's doing this year is taking what D's give him, early in the year he was hitting some deep passes, that's because Moss and Stallworth are great about making plays downfield, but since then teams are going to alot of cover-2, afraid of giving up those passes, and Brady is just going underneath to Welker all day long, few teams have the underneath coverage to handle that, and still be able to focus enough resources to defending Moss, so they put double coverage on Moss and leave their 3rd corner against Welker, who is running slants all day, a very hard route to defend, esp. going up against Brady's accuracy and when you're not a quality DBand again, people are missing the comparison, it's not about who is the better QB, it's what their skill-set is: arm strength, athleticism, accuracy, release, and the intangible qualities such as leadership, field vision, etc., and whatever it is that I left out, Brady is not a physical marvel guys

 

[zack]

Brady also has a line that holds all day and gives him 60 seconds to throw the ball into double-coverage for Moss to jump up and catch an absolutely horrible pass... plus, Brady has the advantage of knowing the defensive play calls...

Amen, this just doesn't get talked about enough. The o-line gets no props.

Remember the Barry Sanders debate, if Barry had Emmitt's line....

 

[Kevinicus]

Can anyone ponit to ONE, just one single great play Brady has made this year?

I guess nobody can huh? I think that says a lot.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I guess nobody can huh? I think that says a lot.

it does say alot, Brady is just like a machine out there, what he's doing is so basic, completing high percentage throws in the middle of the field that is wide open, because teams are afraid of the deep throws to Moss and Stallworth, Brady has a great line, but alot of it is just Brady getting rid of the ball quickly, and for that you have to give him credit, he can read the field so well and his mechanics are so flawless, as well as his accuracy, this comes from years of doing the exact same thing, Brady has succeeded thus far in his career despite having a mediocre receiving core for most of it, because he could move the ball down the field using short passes, in a sense he's perfected that part of his game, and the weapons he has now maximizes that ability so that he's now other-wordly

 

[Kevinicus]

it does say alot, Brady is just like a machine out there, what he's doing is so basic, completing high percentage throws in the middle of the field that is wide open, because teams are afraid of the deep throws to Moss and Stallworth, Brady has a great line, but alot of it is just Brady getting rid of the ball quickly, and for that you have to give him credit, he can read the field so well and his mechanics are so flawless, as well as his accuracy, this comes from years of doing the exact same thing, Brady has succeeded thus far in his career despite having a mediocre receiving core for most of it, because he could move the ball down the field using short passes, in a sense he's perfected that part of his game, and the weapons he has now maximizes that ability so that he's now other-wordly

I wouldn't say he's really getting rid of the ball that quickly. Most of the time he takes quite awhile to get rid of the ball.

 

[AdamJT13]

Lots of NFL quarterbacks -- maybe even most of them -- have better physical skills than Tom Brady. But it's Brady's mental skills that separate him from everyone but Peyton Manning.

 

[soccerbud]

Lots of NFL quarterbacks -- maybe even most of them -- have better physical skills than Tom Brady. But it's Brady's mental skills that separate him from everyone but Peyton Manning.

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I would add his immaculate execution and decision making, as well as his composure under pressure to the list.

also, I can't believe I am reading people claiming a future 1st ballot hall of famer as nothing special.

 

[Doomsday101]

Brady has a good, not great arm

I agree but what makes him a great QB is the same for all and that is what take place between the ears. Brady can make all the throws, he may not throw lasers but he knows where to go with the ball and gets it there on time and on target.