Romo isn't untradable

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There is no one here who is a bigger backer of Tony Romo than me, but the idea that he is untradable doesn't carry water.

If you found a team that would take his contract (which I think you would be able to), and you got the compensation you wanted it would be financially feasible.

#1 It would mean a complete philosophical reboot of the team.
#2 It would require cutting DeMarcus Ware.
#3 It would require restructuring essentially every major contract on the team for a year.
#4 We wouldn't be able to do anything in free agency this year (including extending Smith and Bryant)

On the other hand without Ware and Romo in 2015, your salary cap would completely open up. You would be about 47 million under the cap in 2015 and 72 million under the cap in 2016. So the reset would definitely take effect.

Personally I feel as though cutting Ware accomplishes enough of a reset on the defense (Assuming we don't resign hatcher or spencer), and it isn't necessary to give up on Romo, but ultimately it is well within financial reasoning.

in 2014 Romo is untradeable. 41 mil against the cap say he's untradeable
 

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Long term would be great. There is not going to be a Super Bowl with this team as it is.

but is the alternative better? or is it another 15 years of sucky crappy QB play before we find the right one?

you said lets stop the direction we are going. but didn't say if going another way is better. and I asked to give us the roadmap. right now, there is nothing better than romo unless its laid out as not a pipe dream but realistic scenarios that can be discussed.

its like this train is headed for the cliff that's a 100 feet deep. lets just change direction, but the alternative might be a 1000 ft cliff.
 

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I don't think the op is advocating a trade, sounds like he is just putting an alternate scenario out for those saying he is now untradeable; he also gives a solution on how it could happen. I wouldn't care if it did happen as I don't see us winning in that time frame anyways but id rather keep Romo and either Ware take a pay cut or he is cut outright.
 

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Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.
Romo is untradeable.

How many more times do I need to repeat before it finally sinks in?
 

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It's against nfl rules to be 47 mill under the cap.
 

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but is the alternative better? or is it another 15 years of sucky crappy QB play before we find the right one?

you said lets stop the direction we are going. but didn't say if going another way is better. and I asked to give us the roadmap. right now, there is nothing better than romo unless its laid out as not a pipe dream but realistic scenarios that can be discussed.

its like this train is headed for the cliff that's a 100 feet deep. lets just change direction, but the alternative might be a 1000 ft cliff.

Do you really want to stay at 8-8 forever? In two or three years, Romo will be declined enough that the 4-12 records will be a reality with him as the QB. Why not start the rebuild now? I would be happy to trade Romo for a 7th round pick if it got this team out of his contract. You are wanting to board a sinking ship. It is not going to get better with Romo, Ware and these other old players with big contracts are gone.
 

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There is no one here who is a bigger backer of Tony Romo than me, but the idea that he is untradable doesn't carry water.

If you found a team that would take his contract (which I think you would be able to), and you got the compensation you wanted it would be financially feasible.

#1 It would mean a complete philosophical reboot of the team.
#2 It would require cutting DeMarcus Ware.
#3 It would require restructuring essentially every major contract on the team for a year.
#4 We wouldn't be able to do anything in free agency this year (including extending Smith and Bryant)

On the other hand without Ware and Romo in 2015, your salary cap would completely open up. You would be about 47 million under the cap in 2015 and 72 million under the cap in 2016. So the reset would definitely take effect.

Personally I feel as though cutting Ware accomplishes enough of a reset on the defense (Assuming we don't resign hatcher or spencer), and it isn't necessary to give up on Romo, but ultimately it is well within financial reasoning.

At this point in his career, no one is going to give us anything of substance for him. So, from that perspective, he is untradeable.
 

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Do you really want to stay at 8-8 forever? In two or three years, Romo will be declined enough that the 4-12 records will be a reality with him as the QB. Why not start the rebuild now? I would be happy to trade Romo for a 7th round pick if it got this team out of his contract. You are wanting to board a sinking ship. It is not going to get better with Romo, Ware and these other old players with big contracts are gone.

Build a better team around Romo and he is not 8-8 forever. We have a superstar QB with an 8-8 team. We would be 3-13 every year without him.
 

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Build a better team around Romo and he is not 8-8 forever. We have a superstar QB with an 8-8 team. We would be 3-13 every year without him.

We pretty much need a whole new defensive line and a safety. By the time we get that, Romo will probably be retired.
 

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We pretty much need a whole new defensive line and a safety. By the time we get that, Romo will probably be retired.

With solid drafting and a couple of good free agent pick ups it can be done in one year. I know its a long shot but in todays NFL a great team can suck after one season(Texans)or a sucky team can be very good after one season.(Chiefs)
 

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With solid drafting and a couple of good free agent pick ups it can be done in one year. I know its a long shot but in todays NFL a great team can suck after one season(Texans)or a sucky team can be very good after one season.(Chiefs)

You're wasting your breath; no matter how much sense you make these types will always revert to the "we're 8-8 this way, so we'll always be 8-8 this way" argument. Which is strange because it has to be pretty much the first logical fallacy you get to when studying them in high school... but I doubt many of these boring Romo haters made it that far.
 

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Build a better team around Romo and he is not 8-8 forever. We have a superstar QB with an 8-8 team. We would be 3-13 every year without him.

Romo is already declining. They don't have time to build around him.
 

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There is no one here who is a bigger backer of Tony Romo than me, but the idea that he is untradable doesn't carry water.

If you found a team that would take his contract (which I think you would be able to), and you got the compensation you wanted it would be financially feasible.

#1 It would mean a complete philosophical reboot of the team.
#2 It would require cutting DeMarcus Ware.
#3 It would require restructuring essentially every major contract on the team for a year.
#4 We wouldn't be able to do anything in free agency this year (including extending Smith and Bryant)

On the other hand without Ware and Romo in 2015, your salary cap would completely open up. You would be about 47 million under the cap in 2015 and 72 million under the cap in 2016. So the reset would definitely take effect.

Personally I feel as though cutting Ware accomplishes enough of a reset on the defense (Assuming we don't resign hatcher or spencer), and it isn't necessary to give up on Romo, but ultimately it is well within financial reasoning.

Would this mean JG gets a reprieve because we wouldn't have Ware and Romo?

If so......I'm out on this scenario. He's really the only person I want cut on this team.
 

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With solid drafting and a couple of good free agent pick ups it can be done in one year. I know its a long shot but in todays NFL a great team can suck after one season(Texans)or a sucky team can be very good after one season.(Chiefs)

They don't have the cap room to pick up the free agents and they don't have the high draft picks needed. If it was a quick fix, they would have done it by now.
 

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I don't get it, if a team is willing to take on a players contract and give up draft picks to get him, why should that contract stay on the books of the team that traded him. I think that is stupid in the part of the NFL, that's why there are no trades anymore.
 

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Until Romo is officially off this team I am hitching my wagon to him because he gives us the best chance to win. He is not going anywhere as much as the Romo haters want to believe it. We are not getting a franchise QB in this draft nor are we picking one up in free agency. Its Romo or bust and when his time is officially over here,I will hope we will be in a position to get the next franchise QB to lead this team for 10 years and win 5 super bowls. But right now we have a QB that is capable of winning it all barring injury. He is not declining skill wise at all. In fact every year he has out preformed his previous year.
 

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If this club plans to resign Dez at anything resembling a reasonable price, you don't can Romo for any ole bum off the street, or a 4th round rookie crapshoot.

We are set up to draft someone with replacing Orton in mind. If he is starter material, we can get out from under Romo's contract reasonably in 2016. We get a 2 year free look at a late round guy, and if that doesn't work, then get to the top of the draft in 2016.

If Romo's back doesn't hold up.........well we are pretty well screwed anyway.
 
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