Romo = Jake Plummer

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Romo has always reminded me of Brees. And if you think Brees didn't have some gambler in him, check his TD:INT stats his first 3 years starting in the league.
 

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theogt;1112662 said:
I think it's a little early to make any comparisons, be it Plummer, Favre or whoever.

Well that is true enough. Right now he's Tony Romo - and he's setting new standards for crap thus far. If he can get to being Jake Plummer, I'll be ecstatic.
 

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superpunk;1112867 said:
Well that is true enough. Right now he's Tony Romo - and he's setting new standards for crap thus far. If he can get to being Jake Plummer, I'll be ecstatic.
I'm going to hold off on commenting anything more about all this 'til next week. We'll get a better picture of everything at that point. I don't think he played like crap. He tried to put the team on his shoulders in his first real half and made some really horrible mistakes. I was hoping he would pull the game out and he was just almost there. Almost. Next week he won't be expected to pass 90% of his plays and he'll have a full week of preparation with the first team. That should be a bit better of a guage.
 

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All I know is that after one half, even with the 3 picks (two of which were sort of fluky), Romo is not
a)Anthony Wright
b)Quincy Carter
c)Chad Hutchinson
d)Clint Stoerner
e)Drew Henson

He has something none of these guys had, and whatever it is--it made him look a lot better and didn't make me feel ashamed he was our QB.
 

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sbuscha;1112787 said:
I am sure he is going to much better when the Defense is not playintg soft after a huge lead and they have game planned for him. Shoot he only threw 3 INTs when they were playing a soft D and he was a suprise to the D. I am so glad I get to look forward to that!!


You've obviously allready made up your mind of what kind of QB Romo is so your opinion is garbage.

You couldn't even give him a week to prepare and get the start.

He made a couple dumb throws last night but he was in a position after TO dropped that 4th and 2 that we had to start forcing things.


I on the other hand am going to give him a chance and throw out everything I saw last night because I did see a few bigtime throws in there. I also saw a few bad ones.

But I can tell from now on youll be the guy waiting for him to mess up no matter how the kid plays.


Next sunday is a fresh start.
 

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theogt;1112889 said:
He tried to put the team on his shoulders in his first real half and made some really horrible mistakes.

To me - that equals palyed like crap. Horrible mistakes = Played like crap. No amount of flashes can wash away 3 INTs, that completely took us out of the game, no matter how much he almost pulled it off. I do want to keep seeing him though, because the flashes were there. At this point, all we have is hope that the horrible mistakes stop.
 

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Marktui;1112827 said:
That first pick was batted up in the air, so it was basically a free for all. His second int he threw into coverage and was a mistake on his part, although Pierce basically grabbed JJ when he was trying to slip into the screen. The last int, don't really know whose fault that was, it was one of those interceptions where Romo threw the ball to a spot where he thought the receiver was going to be. So we have to wait to see where the blame is on there.

The first INT was his fault even though it was batted into the air. He shouldn't have thrown it that low right at Strahan. The second INT was his fault also even though Peirce should have been called for holding before the INT happen. He threw the ball right at three defenders heads. There was no way that ball was going to get beyond them and to Jones whether he was held or not. The 3rd INT was thrown behind the receiver. That doesn't mean it was Romo's fault. We don't know the route that was called so we don't know if the receiver (Wittin I beleive) was running the wrong route, or Romo threw it behind him.
 

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CATCH17;1112896 said:
You've obviously allready made up your mind of what kind of QB Romo is so your opinion is garbage.

You couldn't even give him a week to prepare and get the start.

He made a couple dumb throws last night but he was in a position after TO dropped that 4th and 2 that we had to start forcing things.


I on the other hand am going to give him a chance and throw out everything I saw last night because I did see a few bigtime throws in there. I also saw a few bad ones.

But I can tell from now on youll be the guy waiting for him to mess up no matter how the kid plays.


Next sunday is a fresh start.

Garbage? And you are a expert. Maybe you should read the rules of the forum before you start personally insulting people. This is a forum and everyone has a right to express their opinion even people like you.

Now if you look at his Half stats they are TERRIBLE. The guys has 4 years to prepare so don't give me that crap. "Maybe next week" you sound like a true Cardinal fan. I on the other hand expect to win and make the playoff's. There is no excuse for 3 INT's in a half regarless. He played worse then Bledsoe.
 

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superpunk;1112921 said:
To me - that equals palyed like crap. Horrible mistakes = Played like crap. No amount of flashes can wash away 3 INTs, that completely took us out of the game, no matter how much he almost pulled it off. I do want to keep seeing him though, because the flashes were there. At this point, all we have is hope that the horrible mistakes stop.

I agree. Hopefully he will learn to keep his excitment down during the game play and learn to curb the need to force plays. There is no question that switching to Romo is the best thing for the club for two reason. Defenses now know how to get to Bledsoe and our offensive line is inept at stopping it. Secondly, we need to see Romo play over the long haul to see if he actually is capable of running an NFL offense. Our season doesn't just depend on Romo and the offense, it also depends on the defense coming around to be more consistent.
 

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superpunk;1112921 said:
To me - that equals palyed like crap. Horrible mistakes = Played like crap. No amount of flashes can wash away 3 INTs, that completely took us out of the game, no matter how much he almost pulled it off. I do want to keep seeing him though, because the flashes were there. At this point, all we have is hope that the horrible mistakes stop.
Ok...let's take out his very first play in the 2nd half. Just as a hypothetical. I know you can't take away that first play, but just bare with me fore a second.

Without that first play he's 14 of 24 (58.33%), 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 227 yards for about an 83 QB rating. That's not bad considering the defense knew he was passing on virtually every play and it was his first real half in the NFL. Not good, but definitely not crap.

With all that said, however, you simply can't take away that first INT, which really dug us into a hole.
 

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nyc;1112951 said:
I agree. Hopefully he will learn to keep his excitment down during the game play and learn to curb the need to force plays. There is no question that switching to Romo is the best thing for the club for two reason. Defenses now know how to get to Bledsoe and our offensive line is inept at stopping it. Secondly, we need to see Romo play over the long haul to see if he actually is capable of running an NFL offense. Our season doesn't just depend on Romo and the offense, it also depends on the defense coming around to be more consistent.


Very well said!!! Good insightful post instead of "your opinion is garbage." I must agree with you. IF he can minimize the INT's we have a better chance with his mobility since our O line is mediocre.
 

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theogt;1112963 said:
Ok...let's take out his very first play in the 2nd half. Just as a hypothetical. I know you can't take away that first play, but just bare with me fore a second.

Without that first play he's 14 of 24 (58.33%), 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 227 yards for about an 83 QB rating. That's not bad considering the defense knew he was passing on virtually every play and it was his first real half in the NFL. Not good, but definitely not crap.

With all that said, however, you simply can't take away that first INT, which really dug us into a hole.


LOL....you know when you're "taking plays away", you're really reaching. Even without that, we still lose though - and we lose because Romo made terrible, terrible decisions. I can't rationalize that, no matter how exciting a new beginning is.
 

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Well, lets just cut him then since you KNOW he's the second coming of Jake Plummer.If you can tell how a player will turn out just by watching him play a half of football, you need to charge for these service's. I KNOW there would be teams willing to pay big money for that type of ability.;)
 

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sbuscha;1112946 said:
Garbage? And you are a expert. Maybe you should read the rules of the forum before you start personally insulting people. This is a forum and everyone has a right to express their opinion even people like you.

Now if you look at his Half stats they are TERRIBLE. The guys has 4 years to prepare so don't give me that crap. "Maybe next week" you sound like a true Cardinal fan. I on the other hand expect to win and make the playoff's. There is no excuse for 3 INT's in a half regarless. He played worse then Bledsoe.


So you got personally insulted by me saying your opinion is garbage?


Also im no expert but im smart enough not to predict what kind of QB the guy is after 1 half of football.

Im smart enough to know if the guy brought us back from behind to not call him Favre. Im smart enough to know if the guy played bad not to call him Plummer.

Im gonna let it play out. Thats the smart thing to do. Im going to form my opinion with more information. Not a 2nd half of football.
 

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superpunk;1112921 said:
To me - that equals palyed like crap. Horrible mistakes = Played like crap. No amount of flashes can wash away 3 INTs, that completely took us out of the game, no matter how much he almost pulled it off. I do want to keep seeing him though, because the flashes were there. At this point, all we have is hope that the horrible mistakes stop.

Well, I'll take that knowing that they won't with Bledsoe at the helm.

Aikman threw 3 pick games too while showing flashes. I'd rather see the glass half-full as in hoping Romo is on the right side of the QB tree (which includes Aikman), than the left side (which includes Bledsoe).
 

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The first INT was his fault even though it was batted into the air. He shouldn't have thrown it that low right at Strahan. The second INT was his fault also even though Peirce should have been called for holding before the INT happen. He threw the ball right at three defenders heads. There was no way that ball was going to get beyond them and to Jones whether he was held or not.

If Jones had not been held, he would have been totally open because of that rush... Romo could have released quicker instead of being forced to make a decision... he panicked...

it was a great call, but the ref didn't see the hold...
 

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Well Parcells has been slobbering over the guy for the last couple of years so lets see how he does with some actual preparation knowing he's going to start and keep starting...If that really is the case and I hope it is.

We really in all honesty know what we have in Bledsoe...We don't in Romo and we need to find out...This year so we can be prepared for next years Draft and Free Agency if he's not the answer.

We obviously desperately need to find our QB of the future and it isn't Bledsoe...It may or may not be Romo, but we need to find out. Because our true QB of the Future is playing at Ohio St right now.:D
 

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superpunk;1112969 said:
LOL....you know when you're "taking plays away", you're really reaching. Even without that, we still lose though - and we lose because Romo made terrible, terrible decisions. I can't rationalize that, no matter how exciting a new beginning is.
You didn't get the point of my post. Of course you can't take away that one play. However, for the bulk of his play he wasn't playing like crap.
 

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theogt;1113091 said:
You didn't get the point of my post. Of course you can't take away that one play. However, for the bulk of his play he wasn't playing like crap.

No QB plays like crap for the bulk of their play. Even joey Freaking Harrington can look good. In fact, Romo's performance last night was very similar to a standard Harrington performance, wherein he palys well, moves the team, and then take the team and slaughters them. The bulk of the time, yes, he played well. Three turnovers wipe all that out.
 
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