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KJJ;5089678 said:
If he's "fat" how come it hasn't been reported by anyone in the media? Jamarcus Russell was "fat" Tony Romo isn't. If he's "fat" how come no one commented to Garrett that "Tony looks like he's put on some weight was he not able workout because of the cyst or some other issue?" If he's looking "fat" it's going to come up but it only comes up here and it happens every year at this time. No one is saying he hasn't put on 6-8 pounds that's all it takes to make someones face look fuller. It takes only 3-4 workouts to knock that weight off. Some are acting like he needs to spend a month at a fat farm. :laugh2:

Most players are a few pounds over their playing weight at this time of the year. They're obviously not working out to the extent they are during the season. Every year at this time Romo's face looks fuller which keeps this topic coming up. There isn't anything about his weight that's significantly different from years past or it would be reported. He's shows up "fat" after signing a fat contract that would create a stir that would go way past this forum.

Really? Prove that to me (lol).

And bro, there's no offseason anymore. You take every advantage in the offseason to build strength, lean muscle, and recover from the rigors of the season. It's not the 1970's where NFL players would have other jobs in the offseason.

Strength and conditioning is the main focus of the offseason. You can actually say that it's Mike Woicik's regular season.

Yes, every year Tony seems to put on weight, or body fat in the offseason, and every year Tony is a YEAR OLDER. It needs to become more of a priority in my opinion.
 

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Tony is flabby. I think it wouldnt hurt if he tried toning up his arms and or/stomach.

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TheSport78;5089673 said:
He's at that point in his career where the team can't depend on him to make every big comeback, or putting the organization on his back. How about some defensive turnovers? That'd be nice.

This describes every QB to ever play the game. You don't win a Super Bowl if the QB always has to make every big comeback and does not benefit from some defensive turnovers / great defense and etc.

Aaron Rodgers is a pretty good QB and has won a Super Bowl. On the way to his Super Bowl victory...Green Bay picked off the opposing QB 8 times in the playoffs. Of those 8 picks, 3 of them were pick sixes. In two of those games the margin of victory for the Packers was a touchdown or less and one of the INTs was made in the end zone for what would have been the game winner. In four playoff games the Green Bay D had 8 picks and three TDs. How many games would the Dallas D have to play to account for 8 picks and three TDs???

If perhaps the greatest QB playing the game in Aaron Rodgers needed some help along the way, I think it is a safe bet to say that all QBs need some help.
 

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gbrittain;5089686 said:
This describes every QB to ever play the game. You don't win a Super Bowl if the QB always has to make every big comeback and does not benefit from some defensive turnovers / great defense and etc.

Aaron Rodgers is a pretty good QB and has won a Super Bowl. On the way to his Super Bowl victory...Green Bay picked off the opposing QB 8 times in the playoffs. Of those 8 picks, 3 of them were pick sixes. In two of those games the margin of victory for the Packers was a touchdown or less. In four playoff games the Green Bay D had 8 picks and three TDs. How many games would the Dallas D have to play to account for 8 picks and three TDs???

If perhaps the greatest QB playing the game in Aaron Rodgers needed some help along the way, I think it is a safe bet to say that all QBs need some help.

I'm with you.

I'd argue that throughout his career, Tony has had some of thee worst defenses on the Cowboys, and in the NFL when it came to generating turnovers. I have no stats to back this up, but it just seems that way to me.
 

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KJJ;5089678 said:
If he's "fat" how come it hasn't been reported by anyone in the media? Jamarcus Russell was "fat" Tony Romo isn't. If he's "fat" how come no one commented to Garrett that "Tony looks like he's put on some weight was he not able workout because of the cyst or some other issue?" If he's looking "fat" it's going to come up but it only comes up here and it happens every year at this time. No one is saying he hasn't put on 6-8 pounds that's all it takes to make someones face look fuller. It takes only 3-4 workouts to knock that weight off. Some are acting like he needs to spend a month at a fat farm. :laugh2:

Most players are a few pounds over their playing weight at this time of the year. They're obviously not working out to the extent they are during the season. Every year at this time Romo's face looks fuller which keeps this topic coming up. There isn't anything about his weight that's significantly different from years past or it would be reported. He's shows up "fat" after signing a fat contract that would create a stir that would go way past this forum.

Dude you're like a bulldog with a bone on this media validation for Romo having chubbed up a tad.

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tm1119;5089681 said:
Holy hell, 22 pages because our QB may have gained a few lb's over the offseason???? This is just embarrassing.


I was just thinking the same thing!! Really!! Is it August already? Are we really talking bout weight in May! yall impress me! Enjoy that family Tony!!!!!
 

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TheSport78;5089673 said:
You keep asking for "proof" when I keep stating that it's my OPINION. Go look up pictures yourself and make your own judgment. I don't have anything to prove to you in regards to my opinion, bro.

You claimed Romo has a double chin if he does let's see the proof. You're entitled to your opinion but if you're going to provide an opinion at least provide some evidence to give it some weight...pardon the pun. :) You claim I have a weak argument but I've made some very solid points throughout this entire thread and all you keep doing is dancing around them saying you don't have to prove anything. If you want to come off as being credible at least attempt to strengthen your arguments.


TheSport78;5089673 said:
Just know that I'm not the only forum member that feels this way about Romo's weight.

You're the only one that I've seen that's claimed he has a double chin and is "significantly" heavier. Some like myself don't see any difference in his weight from this time last year or in previous offseasons. No one is saying he hasn't put on a few pounds but he puts on a few every year like a lot of players during the offseason. There's a difference between putting on a little weight and a significant amount of weight. A "significant" amount of weight on Romo is not going to go unnoticed by the media they would report it.

TheSport78;5089673 said:
Moving on, I thought Romo looked less athletic outside of the pocket and not as comfortable in the pocket, and I understand the lack of balance on offense, non-existant running game and the porous offensive line, but Tony has to take some of the blame as well. It's a team sport, right?

Other regression signs? I don't know, the NINETEEN INTERCEPTIONS and career-low passer rating of 90.5 (which is still good, but not for Tony's standards IMO) could be indicators.

He looked as athletic in and outside the pocket as he always has in my opinion. He still made a number of Houdini like escapes behind a crap OL that gives him very little protection. No QB is going to look as comfortable behind that OL. Romo had no running game to lean on which is why he had to attempt 126 more passes last season than he did in 2011. Having no running game and having to put the ball up a career high 648 times allowed the defense to pin their ears back and come after him.

As for his 19 int's his number of passing attempts played a part along with the lack of protection he received. Romo is always going to throw a number of picks he's prone to them he always has been and always will be. If he had a running game and didn't have to put the ball up 600-plus times behind an inadequate OL that would reduce his int's making him more comfortable in the pocket. There's 20 other starting QB's in the league that wouldn't have near the success he does behind that OL.

As for Romo's passer rating going down again it goes back to having to put the ball up a career high 648 times behind a bad OL. He still completed almost 66% of his passes and threw for a career high 4903 yards with 28 TD's which was his 3rd best TD total of his career. Not many QB's in the league would be capable of putting up those kind of numbers behind his OL and having no running game.


TheSport78;5089673 said:
Just tell me, what quarterback in NFL history do you know of that progressed from a physical and statistical standpoint in his mid 30's? I can't think of any off the top of my head. Maybe someone can add to the topic.

Roger Staubach had one of his best seasons statistically in 1979 at 37 years old. He had career bests in passing yards and TD's. No QB is going to progress physically as they enter their mid 30's but what they lose physically they gain mentally from years of experience. Romo's issues aren't physical they're mental. His ill-timed turnovers aren't a result of something he lacks physically. A QB can have all the physical talent in the world and flop because some don't have what it takes between the ears to handle big game pressure. Poor decision making under pressure has foiled many a physically talented QB. The mental game is critical to the success of any QB.
 

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WPBCowboysFan;5089702 said:
Dude you're like a bulldog with a bone on this media validation for Romo having chubbed up a tad.

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Chubbed up a tad and being significantly heavier are two different things. The media that's around him everyday while he's at the Cowboys facility are going to notice and report if he looks significantly heaver then in previous offseasons. If a QB is looking "fat" and "out of shape" with OTA's approaching it's not going to go unnoticed by the media. Sorry if some of you can't accept that.
 

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KJJ;5089714 said:
Chubbed up a tad and being significantly heavier are two different things. The media that's around him everyday while he's at the Cowboys facility are going to notice and report if he looks significantly heaver then in previous offseasons. If a QB is looking "fat" and "out of shape" with OTA's approaching it's not going to go unnoticed by the media. Sorry if some of you can't accept that.

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TheSport78;5089684 said:
Really? Prove that to me (lol).

And bro, there's no offseason anymore. You take every advantage in the offseason to build strength, lean muscle, and recover from the rigors of the season. It's not the 1970's where NFL players would have other jobs in the offseason.

Strength and conditioning is the main focus of the offseason. You can actually say that it's Mike Woicik's regular season.

Yes, every year Tony seems to put on weight, or body fat in the offseason, and every year Tony is a YEAR OLDER. It needs to become more of a priority in my opinion.

Players have reported losing as much as 10-15 pounds during a game. Larry Csonka claimed he lost 18 pounds in the longest game ever played vs KC on Christmas day 1971. Click on the link and scroll down the google search and find "Dolphins, Chiefs played in thrilling longest game ever 40 years ago." Read the excerpt below where Csonka claimed he lost 18 pounds. Patrick Willis said he gained 3 pounds prior to the SB to make up for the weight loss during the game. Some players actually come in a little heavier for training camp because of all the weight some lose. It doesn't take much to burn off 6-8 pounds during 3 intense workouts. Some of that weight is water.


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WPBCowboysFan;5089716 said:

You should photoshop that pic and replace the bone with Eli...Sic 'em! :laugh2:
 

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The only thing I want to add to the Eli- Romo debate (I don't have the time) is that...

Tom Brady has thrown 3 INT's in two AFC Championship games with QB ratings under 70 and won. Eli has made some clutch throws AND got lucky on some throws in his championship runs and won.

Romo has had neither a superior team and coaching to bail him out nor has he gotten those crucial breaks that are just part of the game. I believe he did enough to win the Giants game but had some crushing drops. I can't even imagine a scenario where Tony throws three picks and we win.

However, that being said, the Washington game was his worst game and he didn't look right for whatever reason. I believe he needed to will the team to win that game like he had during the season and he didn't do it.

So...we wait for next year.
 

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If Romo has put on a lot of weight it could be because of his new offseason business venture.

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KJJ;5089707 said:
You claimed Romo has a double chin if he does let's see the proof. You're entitled to your opinion but if you're going to provide an opinion at least provide some evidence to give it some weight...pardon the pun. :) You claim I have a weak argument but I've made some very solid points throughout this entire thread and all you keep doing is dancing around them saying you don't have to prove anything. If you want to come off as being credible at least attempt to strengthen your arguments.




You're the only one that I've seen that's claimed he has a double chin and is "significantly" heavier. Some like myself don't see any difference in his weight from this time last year or in previous offseasons. No one is saying he hasn't put on a few pounds but he puts on a few every year like a lot of players during the offseason. There's a difference between putting on a little weight and a significant amount of weight. A "significant" amount of weight on Romo is not going to go unnoticed by the media they would report it.



He looked as athletic in and outside the pocket as he always has in my opinion. He still made a number of Houdini like escapes behind a crap OL that gives him very little protection. No QB is going to look as comfortable behind that OL. Romo had no running game to lean on which is why he had to attempt 126 more passes last season than he did in 2011. Having no running game and having to put the ball up a career high 648 times allowed the defense to pin their ears back and come after him.

As for his 19 int's his number of passing attempts played a part along with the lack of protection he received. Romo is always going to throw a number of picks he's prone to them he always has been and always will be. If he had a running game and didn't have to put the ball up 600-plus times behind an inadequate OL that would reduce his int's making him more comfortable in the pocket. There's 20 other starting QB's in the league that wouldn't have near the success he does behind that OL.

As for Romo's passer rating going down again it goes back to having to put the ball up a career high 648 times behind a bad OL. He still completed almost 66% of his passes and threw for a career high 4903 yards with 28 TD's which was his 3rd best TD total of his career. Not many QB's in the league would be capable of putting up those kind of numbers behind his OL and having no running game.




Roger Staubach had one of his best seasons statistically in 1979 at 37 years old. He had career bests in passing yards and TD's. No QB is going to progress physically as they enter their mid 30's but what they lose physically they gain mentally from years of experience. Romo's issues aren't physical they're mental. His ill-timed turnovers aren't a result of something he lacks physically. A QB can have all the physical talent in the world and flop because some don't have what it takes between the ears to handle big game pressure. Poor decision making under pressure has foiled many a physically talented QB. The mental game is critical to the success of any QB.



KJJ, some people just aren't going to listen to evidence if they don't want to listen to it. ;)
 

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Red Dragon;5089727 said:
KJJ, some people just aren't going to listen to evidence if they don't want to listen to it. ;)

Those two guys, and they know who I am talking about, are trying to write checks that their butt can't cash, period! And, then you have the worst Romo hater on this forum joining in their gang drive by.

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Yes, we need this post until Romo realize that beer belly is hindering his ability.
 

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TheSport78;5089673 said:
Why was Jerry Rice so successful with longevity and productivity? He couldn't be outworked, and his nutrition/training was flawless. With $100 million dollars, I expect the same with Tony.

Jerry Rice was a great receiver who had a tremendous work ethic but he also had the good fortune of playing with 2 Hall of Fame QB's. His productivity was dependent on having a QB who could get him the ball. When he did he produced and when he didn't he didn't produce. After Steve Young's last good season in 98 he didn't produce the next 2 seasons until he and Jeff Garcia established some chemistry. Rice was productive in Oakland his first 2 seasons there when Rich Gannon was playing at an MVP level but when Gannon's play dropped off so did Rice's production.

Romo's issues have nothing to do with his work ethic or he would have been given the boot a long time ago. You don't sign a QB who doesn't work hard to a $108 contract. No one around Valley Ranch says Romo doesn't work hard it's a reputation he's gotten from some due to dating Hollywood celebrities, his offseason golf, his lack of muscularity and his big game failures. His work ethic isn't the reason his game falls apart when it matters most. It's not his lack of muscles, preparation, nutrition or anything physical that causes his meltdowns. He struggles dealing with big game pressure and decision making.
 

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Red Dragon;5089727 said:
KJJ, some people just aren't going to listen to evidence if they don't want to listen to it. ;)

Some here wear blinders disregarding any evidence that refutes their views. They give opinions and have nothing to base them on but a few pictures where Romo clearly isn't "fat." One fan here claims Romo is sporting a double chin but refuses to post a pic to prove it. The same fan claims to have credentials in nutrition, diet and weightless as he works on his Masters degree in that area and laughed when I said a player could lose 6-8 pounds in 3 intensive workouts. He wanted proof so I provided him with a link where Larry Csonka said he lost 18 pounds in a game. LOL
 

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Gemini Dolly;5089685 said:
Tony is flabby. I think it wouldnt hurt if he tried toning up his arms and or/stomach.

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Romo in April of 2013

That's flabby?
 
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