Romo says he will get better in the future

[PA Cowboy Fan]

He had only 10 picks in 15 games last year and played the last 4-5 games in real pain.
How can you say he hasn't learned anything?

He turned it over less than almost every player in the entire league!

I could tell in that Green Bay game. Like I said he doesn't do it in every game but you just know it's coming sometime.

 

[WillieBeamen]

Regardless of his late -game blunders, no other qb besides maybe peyton manning or aaron rodgers would win anything significant with the roster we've had the past 4 seasons and this coach. Romo is a top 10 franchise qb, playing in a poorly run franchise.

 

[iceberg]

I could tell in that Green Bay game. Like I said he doesn't do it in every game but you just know it's coming sometime.

and it goes that way for all quarterbacks. in aikmans 1st 9 years, he threw 110 int's. romo, 101. aikman, 129 td's, romo, 208.

the biggest reason for the 3 superbowls was the team, not the qb. if anything, we rely on romo *too* much and yes, he makes bad plays but when you're forced to make a majority of the plays, it's not a reach to say he's simply got a higher % of making said bad play cause he's about the only one we have out there making the plays.

now, who's the maroon that is saying i'm comparing romo to aikman. i know it's coming. so no, i'm not. i'm just pointing out some numbers from our own qb over the years and when we had a better *team* we had much more wins and fun.

that's all.

 

[DFWJC]

I could tell in that Green Bay game. Like I said he doesn't do it in every game but you just know it's coming sometime.

But let me guess, in the game winning 4th qtr drives on the road in far more important games at New York and Washington (not to mention Minnesota) you did NOT have the certain gut feeling he'd throw a pick?

Just curious which key game moments you "know" it's coming.

 

[iceberg]

But let me guess, in the game winning 4th qtr drives on the road in far more important games at New York and Washington (not to mention Minnesota) you did NOT have the certain gut feeling he'd throw a pick?

Just curious which key game moments you "know" it's coming.

well as soon as it happens, he knew it was coming. but if he does well, it doesn't matter. he knows the bad man is coming sooner or later.

 

[Nova]

what would be interesting would be if we could put together the following stat for each QB:

In those last 5 minutes how often that QBs D gave up points; what the D ranking for that QB's D was for the last 5 Minutes; and what the average score was for that team in the last 5 minutes (ahead by 2, behind by 3, whatever). With all that data then I think you could indeed do a better job of ranking the QBs as regards how they played in those last 5 minutes and how tough a situation it was for them. In other words how much pressure each QB faced to make a play. I would hazard a guess that Romo would be in the top 10 at least; and probably in the top 5 in having the most pressure to make a play to win a game.

Ha. The project in my sig is taking up way too much time for me to figure that one out. I'll leave that to @percyhoward .

 

[TheDude]

All I know is if Tom Brady was drafted by the Cowboys he would have no rings and carry the label of a choke artist.

Hey, Romo....if you can't win with an oil man and his son running the football operations, when can you?

I dont think he would have been labeled choke artist....there were too many former baseball players in front of him to ever see the field

 

[TrailBlazer]

You'd think people would get this.
But as I've always said, the myth of Romo the choker has made each late game pick = 10 (1 real, 9 imaginary)

I don't think ppl have to make up imaginary interceptions for romo. Denver, Green Bay ring a bell? Tony has done something only chuck Norris has done before him. He has his own line of jokes in his honor. For example, "Tony Romo threw his iPhone 5 down in frustration but it was intercepted and returned for a TD." I didn't say they were clever.

 

[Nav22]

All I have to say is it still cracks me up when I hear that Romo's "too reckless with the ball."

He had 10 INTs last season (to go along with 31 TDs) and his career INT% is 2.7. That's better than Aikman's INT% of 3.0. Was Aikman too reckless as well?

I know, I know... the stats/facts don't matter. And something about a lack of leadership or "doing it when it counts." Right?

 

[jnday]

I do agree with this. I think Romo would have to be part of a team like the Baltimore Ravens to win a super bowl. He would need to be carried by the team, not lead the team there.

I think this point creates a large part of the disagreements between fans when it comes to Romo. I clearly understand that this a a team game and that excuse gets when it is used to defend every game that Romo loses with the late game turnover. Some fans expects a QB to step up and carry the team when the game is on the line and the opportunity presents itself. Some QBs can do it, some can't. I am reminded of some if the quotes that came from Roger's teammates where they said that they always knew that Roger could win the game for them if they could just get the ball in his hands in the final two minutes. They believed that Roger was going to make the plays needed to win the game. Sure, it didn't happen every time, but Roger's teammates believed he could put the team on his back and win the game. In all honesty, I have a bad feeling that a major screwup is about to happen when Romo has the ball in his hands and a touchdown is needed to win. If the game is against one of the better teams in the league, it is a Prime Time game or it is a win or go home type of game, the result is a heart breaker. If Romo's teammates shared their honest opinion on Tony's late game blow-ups, it would change the opinion of many of the Romo defenders on this board.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

I think this point creates a large part of the disagreements between fans when it comes to Romo. I clearly understand that this a a team game and that excuse gets when it is used to defend every game that Romo loses with the late game turnover. Some fans expects a QB to step up and carry the team when the game is on the line and the opportunity presents itself. Some QBs can do it, some can't. I am reminded of some if the quotes that came from Roger's teammates where they said that they always knew that Roger could win the game for them if they could just get the ball in his hands in the final two minutes. They believed that Roger was going to make the plays needed to win the game. Sure, it didn't happen every time, but Roger's teammates believed he could put the team on his back and win the game. In all honesty, I have a bad feeling that a major screwup is about to happen when Romo has the ball in his hands and a touchdown is needed to win. If the game is against one of the better teams in the league, it is a Prime Time game or it is a win or go home type of game, the result is a heart breaker. If Romo's teammates shared their honest opinion on Tony's late game blow-ups, it would change the opinion of many of the Romo defenders on this board.

Another one of the dumbest posts you'll ever read on this board. Have you ever had these "bad feelings" during one of Romo's 19 game winning drives? I think you're confusing your Taco Bell indigestion with you actually having a clue about what's going on the TV screen. You and your hero ufc are repetitive bores.

 

[Zman5]

But we all know he will. How many times have we watched the movie? We all know the ending.

As long as JG is the one in charge of writing the script, you may be right.

 

[rpntex]

The fact Brady didnt have to play from behind as much is irrelevant. The graphic was specific, Most INT's while tied or LEADING in the 4th quarter. Not coming from behind.

And you can still use a similar line of logic here, nonetheless. I'd bet Brady's Pats were not facing a "tied or leading by 7 or less" ( the actual parameters stated) near as often as the Cowboys have. Dallas was rarely up 2 scores or more in the last five minutes, while I imagine it was somewhat common for the Patriots. Less opportunities, yet still only one less int.

Now turn your sarcasm meter on. I am by no means saying anything negative about Brady. I'm just pointing out what should be obvious---Romo isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe.

 

[TheDude]

Corrected stats:

Since 2010, int% per attempt, with less than 5 minutes to play:
[Difference in int% per attempt in brackets from first 55:00 of game]
+ means player is x percentage points better in the last 5:00 than the first 55:00. - means player is x points worse.]

1. Rodgers: 1.4% [+.4]
2. Brady: 1.7% [-.3]
3. Peyton: 1.7% [+.4]
4. Ben: 1.9% [+.4]
5. Luck: 1.9% [+.6]
6. Flacco: 2.2% [+.4]
7. Stafford: 2.4% [+.2]
8. Romo: 2.9% [-.9]
9. Ryan: 2.9% [-1.2]
10. Brees: 3.1% [-.4]
11. Eli: 3.2% [+.9]
12. Newton: 3.3% [-.8]
13. Rivers: 3.5% [-1.2]
14. Dalton: 3.9% [-1.4]
15. Cutler: 4.1% [-1.5]
16. Palmer: 4.3% [-1.3]

Dead center. Not bad! The increase in int% from the first 55:00 of games is a little alarming, but it's not the worst. He places 11th overall in that regard.

**Interesting Note: The 3 superbowl winning QBs in this span all turn the ball over less in the final 5 minutes than they do in the first 55. I don't think that's a coincidence considering that 5 of the 7 SB winning QBs on this list are positive in this regard, and the other 2 (Brees, Brady) aren't too far in the red.

Cumulative QB rating with 5 minutes to go in the game since 2010.
[Passer rating in the first 55 minutes of game]
To the right is the difference in passer rating from first 55 minutes to last 5 minutes. +means player improved in final 5 min, - means player played worse in final 5 min

1. Rodgers: 114.5 [107.3] +7.2
2. Brees: 102.5 [99.3] -3.2
3. Peyton: 99.8 [106.5] -6.7
4. Brady: 97.3 [101.6] -4.3
5. Ben: 97 [90.5] +6.5
6. Rivers: 92.3 [97.4] -5.1
7. Eli: 90.9 [79] +11.9
8. Stafford: 88.1 [86.3] +1.8
9. Luck: 88 [77.1] +10.9
10. Dalton: 88 [84.4] +3.6
11. Romo: 86.1 [102.8] -16.7
12. Ryan: 86 [97.3] -11.3
13. Flacco: 85.9 [81.8] -4.1
14. Newton: 85.2 [87.2] -2.0
15. Cutler: 82.7 [86.9] -4.2
16. Palmer: 81.9 [84.4] -2.5

Not as good for Romo here. Ranks 11 out of 16 in passer rating under 5 minutes, and what's more has the steepest decline in play from the first 55 minutes to the last 5.

outstanding work

 

[djmajestik]

When you're constantly put in that position(almost every game), more so then any other QB, you're eventually going to throw a game breaking INT. What happened in the Denver game last year perfectly sums up how Romo's career has played out with the Cowboys, he can't do it all by himself. He shouldn't have to play stellar every game for us to win, even then we still lose when he plays good. No QB in the NFL is asked to carry around more dead weight then Romo, and it's been pretty crappy how his career has been wasted so far.

I wish I could like this more than once! Well put!

 

[EST_1986]

Romo is fine just hope is rehab works and he's 100% healthy.

 

[ufcrules1]

I think this point creates a large part of the disagreements between fans when it comes to Romo. I clearly understand that this a a team game and that excuse gets when it is used to defend every game that Romo loses with the late game turnover. Some fans expects a QB to step up and carry the team when the game is on the line and the opportunity presents itself. Some QBs can do it, some can't. I am reminded of some if the quotes that came from Roger's teammates where they said that they always knew that Roger could win the game for them if they could just get the ball in his hands in the final two minutes. They believed that Roger was going to make the plays needed to win the game. Sure, it didn't happen every time, but Roger's teammates believed he could put the team on his back and win the game. In all honesty, I have a bad feeling that a major screwup is about to happen when Romo has the ball in his hands and a touchdown is needed to win. If the game is against one of the better teams in the league, it is a Prime Time game or it is a win or go home type of game, the result is a heart breaker. If Romo's teammates shared their honest opinion on Tony's late game blow-ups, it would change the opinion of many of the Romo defenders on this board.

That is just an excellent post. You're right about Roger and what those around him thought. I'm sure the fans felt the same way too. I know a lot of fans, even major fans of Romo who always have that filling in their stomach that something bad is going to happen. If we feel that way, then how does his teammates feel?

 

[Nova]

That is just an excellent post. You're right about Roger and what those around him thought. I'm sure the fans felt the same way too. I know a lot of fans, even major fans of Romo who always have that filling in their stomach that something bad is going to happen. If we feel that way, then how does his teammates feel?

Who knows. Sometimes you just have more faith in your teammates because you see what they can do each and every day.

We had a guy like that. Played CB and got burned a lot for some big yardage and scores. Outsiders didn't understand why he was still starting, but for us who practiced with him every day, we knew that he was probably the most talented player on the team.

We had faith in him no matter what, because we knew exactly what he could do.

For teammates, sometimes you're just so close you know the circumstances and that everyone else is wrong. Sometimes as fans, you're just too close to see the obvious.

 

[mrmojo]

I think this point creates a large part of the disagreements between fans when it comes to Romo. I clearly understand that this a a team game and that excuse gets when it is used to defend every game that Romo loses with the late game turnover. Some fans expects a QB to step up and carry the team when the game is on the line and the opportunity presents itself. Some QBs can do it, some can't. I am reminded of some if the quotes that came from Roger's teammates where they said that they always knew that Roger could win the game for them if they could just get the ball in his hands in the final two minutes. They believed that Roger was going to make the plays needed to win the game. Sure, it didn't happen every time, but Roger's teammates believed he could put the team on his back and win the game. In all honesty, I have a bad feeling that a major screwup is about to happen when Romo has the ball in his hands and a touchdown is needed to win. If the game is against one of the better teams in the league, it is a Prime Time game or it is a win or go home type of game, the result is a heart breaker. If Romo's teammates shared their honest opinion on Tony's late game blow-ups, it would change the opinion of many of the Romo defenders on this board.

And this belief in Staubach not only raised the offenses level of play but the defense would raise its level of play as well in order to get the ball back to Roger, best example of this was the Larry Cole stop on Riggins in that great 79 game......thats why stats dont tell the whole story and why each championship team usually has some sort of strong leadership base which propels them to greatness.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

That is just an excellent post. You're right about Roger and what those around him thought. I'm sure the fans felt the same way too. I know a lot of fans, even major fans of Romo who always have that filling in their stomach that something bad is going to happen. If we feel that way, then how does his teammates feel?

I always believed the team had a chance when Roger was QB. One of the best comeback QB's ever.