Romo Speaks..

[RoyTheHammer]

http://cowboysblog.***BANNED-URL***/archives/2010/11/tony-romo-wants-to-play-again.html


Tony Romo:

"I always love to play and anytime you don't play it hurts," Romo said.


He continued:

"I love competing. I love winning or losing and going about the process that ends in either you accomplishing something or not accomplishing something."


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Honestly, the guy is a very good QB. Super talented.. but a leader? I fail to see it.

From the trip to Cabo during playoff week, to saying it wasn't so bad when they lost a playoff game, to his 1 and 4 postseason record with the talent he had around him, to these comments, etc..

How could anyone see him as someone who inspires his teammates with commments and actions such as these?

Feel free to insult away..im sure i'll get a bunch of slack. These comments though..

 

[Sickwitit]

Hammerhead...just give it up man...please.

 

[DandyDon1722]

No reason to insult. It's absolutely hilarious. Jay Leno should hire you as a writer.

 

[StylisticS]

:beer1: :hammock:

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Alright, lol.

Honestly though.. anyone who's truely known me for longer than the past few days here knows im not prone to saying things that make no sense. Hell, look at my posts from just today, most people.. who arn't suffering from emotional outbursts or crybaby syndrome or extreme homerism/hate for a specific player.. agree with the points im making since i got on after the game tonight.

If very few people actually agree with me on this issue, that's fine i'll drop it. But as fans, none of us are actually around the team or in the locker room, so to not look at both sides of the issue would be ignorant, imo, as we don't really know how much of a leader he really is, or how much he really inspires his teammates, etc..

No one can claim to know this unless you spend alot of time hanging around Valley Ranch with the team. So to not even consider some of the points i bring up, especially the cabo thing, is bewildering to me. Can all of you honestly say you're looking at this issue objectively? Can you honestly say you're clearly seperating the characteristics of talent and leadership?

If you think you are then that's fine, and honestly its not that big an issue what any of us thinks about the guy. IMO, he lacks any distinguishing leadership aspect to his personality. Is that really so wrong and completely misplaced to think?

Anyway, i'll discontinue my involvement with the subject. I'll leave it to everyone else to comment, insult, whatever. Bring it on! ha

 

[Sickwitit]

To me his comments is what a leader would and should say. When your winning everyone wants to ride and pat you on the back, when you lose everyone is quick to disappear. If I was his teammate I would take a lot of pride in the fact that win or lose this guy is gunna be by my side no matter what. Which is exactly what he said in his comments, those are the words of a true leader and a great teammate.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

To me his comments is what a leader would and should say. When your winning everyone wants to ride and pat you on the back, when you lose everyone is quick to disappear. If I was his teammate I would take a lot of pride in the fact that win or lose this guy is gunna be by my side no matter what. Which is exactly what he said in his comments, those are the words of a true leader and a great teammate.

I understand what you're saying there, but how do you take the statement "I like winning and losing.."

..and turn that into him saying something about how people treat you when you're doing either? And if that was what he was saying.. then why would he say he likes winning "or losing", when if you lose there's nobody around and everyone hates you?

It doesn't seem like he was commenting on how people are going to be with you or against you, he just said he likes competing.

I like competing too, and i played baseball for 16 years. It was my life til i tore up my shoulder. Never once would you hear me say "i like winning or losing.. either way." If i didn't win.. i was pissed for days.

I don't understand that at all..

 

[Hostile]

Mike Jenkins last year said he went in to see Romo at the end of his film sessions to get tips on what the opposing QBs do. Is that leadership?

Jason Garrett said on Tuesday that Tony Romo shows up to therapy every day at 7:00 and then helps coach the team. Is that leadership?

Yesterday on the sidelines he was talking to Ware and Spencer giving them tips on what brees was doing. Is that leadership?

Or is a leader just someone who talks and says what fans want to hear?

I'll take what the team sees as leadership over what the fans see any day of the week, and twice on game days. We aren't in the huddle or the locker rooms.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Mike Jenkins last year said he went in to see Romo at the end of his film sessions to get tips on what the opposing QBs do. Is that leadership?

Jason Garrett said on Tuesday that Tony Romo shows up to therapy every day at 7:00 and then helps coach the team. Is that leadership?

Yesterday on the sidelines he was talking to Ware and Spencer giving them tips on what brees was doing. Is that leadership?

Or is a leader just someone who talks and says what fans want to hear?

I'll take what the team sees as leadership over what the fans see any day of the week, and twice on game days. We aren't in the huddle or the locker rooms.

I actually agree. We arn't in the locker rooms or around the team on a daily basis. So none of us really knows how the team views Romo, whether they look to him as a leader or not or how much he inspires them? Correct?

 

[SkinsandTerps]

I actually agree. We arn't in the locker rooms or around the team on a daily basis. So none of us really knows how the team views Romo, whether they look to him as a leader or not or how much he inspires them? Correct?

So why would you assume that he is not ?

 

[Hostile]

I actually agree. We arn't in the locker rooms or around the team on a daily basis. So none of us really knows how the team views Romo, whether they look to him as a leader or not or how much he inspires them? Correct?

I think we do know, we just don't pay attention. Myself included. Other than TO, have you ever heard of a player, current or former, speak ill of the man?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Mike Jenkins last year said he went in to see Romo at the end of his film sessions to get tips on what the opposing QBs do. Is that leadership?

Jason Garrett said on Tuesday that Tony Romo shows up to therapy every day at 7:00 and then helps coach the team. Is that leadership?

Yesterday on the sidelines he was talking to Ware and Spencer giving them tips on what brees was doing. Is that leadership?

Or is a leader just someone who talks and says what fans want to hear?

I'll take what the team sees as leadership over what the fans see any day of the week, and twice on game days. We aren't in the huddle or the locker rooms.

Mike Jenkins going to him, and him agreeing to help isn't really leadership imo. Jenkins approached him right?

.. and Garrett didn't say Romo helps coach the team. He said he shows up early and he's involved in the meetings with the other QB's and works out on the field during practice.

Some of these things could be seen as leadership, some not so much. You provided examples of him seemingly showing leadership. I've provided some of him showing a lack thereof. We're simply not there..

 

[RoyTheHammer]

I think we do know, we just don't pay attention. Myself included. Other than TO, have you ever heard of a player, current or former, speak ill of the man?

No one i heard on the team has said anything to the media negative about Romo. But as well all know players are told to toe the company line when regarding the media. I doubt you'd hear some one come out and say something bad about the franchise QB if they wanted to keep their job.

 

[Hostile]

Mike Jenkins going to him, and him agreeing to help isn't really leadership imo. Jenkins approached him right?

What does that have to do with it? Jenkins approached a follower? Explain that to me, because honestly, that is myopic.

.. and Garrett didn't say Romo helps coach the team. He said he shows up early and he's involved in the meetings with the other QB's and works out on the field during practice.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200057&highlight=romo

I wasn't talking out of my butt.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

So why would you assume that he is not ?

Haha.. i have a list of reasons in another thread. Don't wana go there again. A few of them included a trip to mexico during the week of a playoff game, his lack of success in the postseason with very talented teams around him, things he's said, including these comments about being satisfied with winning or losing, and his comments after the playoff loss that made it sound like it wasn't a big deal.

Just the way the players react to him when you watch the games too.. i just don't know.

I could be completely off base here, no doubt about it. And certainly there's a difference between talent.. which Romo has in leaps and bounds.. and leadership. I've never for a second questioned his talent.

If he is a leader though, i'd expect to see some postseason success in the next couple years, and i can only hope that is the case. If im wrong, i'll be the happiest guy here when we're winning postseason games on our way to a super bowl.

 

[Hostile]

No one i heard on the team has said anything to the media negative about Romo. But as well all know players are told to toe the company line when regarding the media. I doubt you'd hear some one come out and say something bad about the franchise QB if they wanted to keep their job.

Franchise QBs are not leaders?

I hope my point is sinking in.

You're focusing on words.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

What does that have to do with it? Jenkins approached a follower? Explain that to me, because honestly, that is myopic.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200057&highlight=romo

I wasn't talking out of my butt.

No.. it means Jenkins wanted tips on opposing QB's.. so naturally he went to the starting QB.

``He's in early, he's in that training room a 7 a.m. every morning, and he's in our meetings and once we go out on the practice field they have a whole regimen for him to go through some different rehab stuff, but he's very much involved, the ideas keep coming and he's engaged with our football team.''

im not sure that means he's helping coach the team tho Hos..


Either way.. as i said there's a line between talent and leadership. At least very least Romo clearly has all the talent in the world. And i hope im wrong about his leadership qualities because if i am we should be seeing playoff wins building up in the next couple years and hopefully we make a run to that final victory. Again.. i'll be the happiest guy here if that happens.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I actually agree. We arn't in the locker rooms or around the team on a daily basis. So none of us really knows how the team views Romo, whether they look to him as a leader or not or how much he inspires them? Correct?

So basically what you are saying is that you really have no idea, correct???


You make posts about how "you think" he is not a leader and how this comment or that comment proves he is not a leader, but the truth is that is just your opinion.

My opinion is that he is a leader.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Franchise QBs are not leaders?

I hope my point is sinking in.

You're focusing on words.

Is Carson Palmer a leader? Because he has been the Bengals franchise QB.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Is Carson Palmer a leader? Because he has been the Bengals franchise QB.

More than any other player on the team ? Yes indeed.