Romo struggles against 3-4?

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Tony Romo is 12-17 versus the 3-4 and he has an 88.7 QB rating against the 3-4.

Romo is also 5-2 in opening games.

More troubling though is Scott Linehan who is 14-28 against the 3-4.
 

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Three of those losses came against the Ravens probably they have always run a hybrid especially after they drafted Suggs.
 

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Tony Romo is 12-17 versus the 3-4 and he has an 88.7 QB rating against the 3-4.

Romo is also 5-2 in opening games.

More troubling though is Scott Linehan who is 14-28 against the 3-4.

As stated previously, the 12-17 is too close to be statistically meaningful. A random sampling of opponents would likely get a similar result.

The 14-28 is statistically relevant; although it's odd for a coach to be better vs one or the other.
 

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12-17 is not a small difference. Even if it were 12-12 it wouldn't give you much confidence.
 

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A good oline should help but I hope Zack Martin can play.
 

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As stated previously, the 12-17 is too close to be statistically meaningful. A random sampling of opponents would likely get a similar result.

The 14-28 is statistically relevant; although it's odd for a coach to be better vs one or the other.

Probably has to do with his system.
 

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Way to hard to put into context why the offense struggles against a 3-4 and does well against a 4-3 and I say offense because what if Romo had a great game but the defense was terrible? There are countless variables, what were the records of the teams? Was there a missed or made field goal here or there? A crucial turnover to win or lose a game. A bad call? The sample size is so small and it actually is too small of a difference to quantify statistically to draw any conclusions.

Even defensively, nothing is purely 3-4 or 4-3 anymore. There's nickel, dime, goal line, amoeba. I just don't think the question is answerable.
 

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I think it has to do more with the Oline. I'm pretty sure I've heard broaddus say before that the Oline struggles blocking 3-4 defenses. Just think back at the times they played the cardinals. Now, hopefully that changes this year with our revamped Oline
 

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Way to hard to put into context why the offense struggles against a 3-4 and does well against a 4-3 and I say offense because what if Romo had a great game but the defense was terrible? There are countless variables, what were the records of the teams? Was there a missed or made field goal here or there? A crucial turnover to win or lose a game. A bad call? The sample size is so small and it actually is too small of a difference to quantify statistically to draw any conclusions.

Even defensively, nothing is purely 3-4 or 4-3 anymore. There's nickel, dime, goal line, amoeba. I just don't think the question is answerable.

Yes, this was kind of what I was thinking, what were the other variables. Who were the teams, and even what was their offense like. If they scored at will, like the Saint, well, does it matter.
This is another stat made to look as if Romo is bad. Lihehan, well, look at the teams he coached also. And how far do those stats go back, when he was a HC at detroit?
 

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12-17 is such a small difference from 500 that the statistic is meaningless.

It's not that.

It doesn't tell us Romo's actual performance against the 3-4. It only tells us his record. We also don't know how good those 3-4 defenses were.

If Romo had a 95 QB rating against those 3-4 defenses which averaged allowing a 82 QB rating...then the record against 3-4 teams was not due to a lack of production from the QB.

Converesely, if Romo had a 95 QB rating against those 3-4 defenses which averaged allowing a 103 QB rating, then Romo's performance was not up to snuff.

With that said, it doesn't quite surprise me. Romo takes way too much time trying to tinker with the offense pre-snap and with the 3-4 they can move around the parts easier and just hope to confuse Romo even more.






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I would want to know how many times the Cowboys had the lead in the 4th and the defense gave it up as well
 

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Also few of those losses came against Commanders
Or it could just be specific to the players that he had.

Possible but since his record is from various teams, I would lean more toward the system and the type of players he wants for that system.
 

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How about the record against 3-4 defenses which are missing 2 of the 4 LBs who also happen to be the two best players on that defense (Smith and Bowman)?:)
 

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Also few of those losses came against Commanders


Possible but since his record is from various teams, I would lean more toward the system and the type of players he wants for that system.

It would be good to look to see how the QBs and Centers that he had fared against the 3-4 in their career.
 

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The 14-28 is statistically relevant; although it's odd for a coach to be better vs one or the other.
I guess it depends on what Linehan's teams records were otherwise.
 

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It's not that.

It doesn't tell us Romo's actual performance against the 3-4. It only tells us his record. We also don't know how good those 3-4 defenses were.

If Romo had a 95 QB rating against those 3-4 defenses which averaged allowing a 82 QB rating...then the record against 3-4 teams was not due to a lack of production from the QB.

Converesely, if Romo had a 95 QB rating against those 3-4 defenses which averaged allowing a 103 QB rating, then Romo's performance was not up to snuff.

With that said, it doesn't quite surprise me. Romo takes way too much time trying to tinker with the offense pre-snap and with the 3-4 they can move around the parts easier and just hope to confuse Romo even more.






YR

Now that was funny YR.

You proceeded to very logically explain what that record may very well not matter.

Then blew it all up by presenting your perceived flaws in Romo's game that would make this true.
 
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