Romo stunk yesterday

[ufcrules1]

Yup, the way he threw that near pick-six straight to Lee was a thing of beauty.

So was his nearly 500 yards passing. At least he had the balls to throw the ball.

 

[ufcrules1]

I don't think we lose that game. In fact, I think we are going to be in pretty decent shape in the second half. There are really only two games that seriously scare me, the rest of the way. If we can 6-2 or 5-3, that's double digit wins and the Division. I never really thought we would do much in the playoffs but hey, that's a definite improvement over the last few years and these guys that are getting beaten up now, they are going to get better next year. Lets see what happens the rest of the way before we start lighting the mattresses on fire.

So your saying we win the division by default, get smoked in the playoffs, get a last 12 pick in the first round of the draft, and get a first place schedule for 2014?

 

[Doomsday]

Romo doesnt read defenss very well, presnap or he just doesnt understand the importance of taking advantage of certain matchups. I truly believe this is why a lot of his big plays come after plays break down and he is buying time to make plays down the field. Way too often he seems to be looking at the wrong match ups.

 

[btcutter]

So was his nearly 500 yards passing. At least he had the balls to throw the ball.

If our D would have just made one more play to win the game then those yds are meaningless.

 

[03EBZ06]

So was his nearly 500 yards passing. At least he had the balls to throw the ball.

It doesn't take balls to throw to open receivers like they had, thanks to Cowboys idiotic defensive scheme. Cowboys defense absolutely sucks, can't stop runs, can't stop passes, and can't stop anyone from scoring and of course they can't get off the field, absolutely worst defense I've seen in a long time. The Cowboys are on pace to break the franchise record for most yards ever surrendered in a season, surpassing the woeful 2012 team. So yeah, it has nothing to do with having set of balls.

 

[texbumthelife]

The defense has been atrocious, but in a year where Romo was handed a massive raise in his allowance and the keys to daddy's caddy, he is swerving all over the road, driving quite erratically and has yet to put in the work deserving of his new pay.

 

[lane]

Don't blame them. 20 years of Cowboy ineptitude had trained fans to be stat watchers. Some of us are convinced that a good player and a good season is defined by statistics.

yea ..like fantasy football players who don't have a clue about football...only stats.

 

[ufcrules1]

If our D would have just made one more play to win the game then those yds are meaningless.

If our offense would have gotten just one more first down those yards would be meaningless too. If Romo would have showed up in the 2nd quarter instead of waiting all the way until the 4th, those yards by stafford would be meaningless too. It's not just the defense man. The offense is playing a role in our problems too.

 

[btcutter]

If our offense would have gotten just one more first down those yards would be meaningless too. If Romo would have showed up in the 2nd quarter instead of waiting all the way until the 4th, those yards by stafford would be meaningless too. It's not just the defense man. The offense is playing a role in our problems too.

Please....We handed a 10 point lead to the D with 4 min left. What else can a D ask for? Did O play a perfect game. No. But it did enough to give D with a good lead. Other 31 teams probably would have close this game out but our D found a way to lose this one.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So your saying we win the division by default, get smoked in the playoffs, get a last 12 pick in the first round of the draft, and get a first place schedule for 2014?

Not exactly. That's what you are saying.

I'm saying that we are the best team in the Division but that doesn't make us one of the best teams in the NFL. I'm saying that a good team will probably beat us in the playoffs and if you are watching this team play, that should not surprise you. I'm saying that making the playoffs and posting a 10-6 record would be a marked improvement of previous years and should be recognized as such. I'm saying nothing about the draft but if you would like to discuss the draft, that's fine with me.

I assume you advocate the position of losing all the rest of our games and getting a top 5 pick?

 

[gbrittain]

Like I have always said "clutch" is a myth here in Cowboyszone. It is a term of opinion used to praise other QBs for not having a great game but when the chips are down late in the game the light bulb goes off and the QB mans up and leads the team to a TD and does not make a critical error.

So when Romo throws a total of 3 meaningful passes in the 4th QTR for 110 yards and two TDs, and helps deliver a 10 point lead twice...well clutch does not apply. I understand there was some really awesome YAC going on but evidently Romo hit the right guy, did not throw an INT, did not take a sack, and etc.

 

[ufcrules1]

Please....We handed a 10 point lead to the D with 4 min left. What else can a D ask for? Did O play a perfect game. No. But it did enough to give D with a good lead. Other 31 teams probably would have close this game out but our D found a way to lose this one.

And our offense did too. The blame goes both ways man. Sorry you can't see that.

 

[ufcrules1]

Not exactly. That's what you are saying.

I'm saying that we are the best team in the Division but that doesn't make us one of the best teams in the NFL. I'm saying that a good team will probably beat us in the playoffs and if you are watching this team play, that should not surprise you. I'm saying that making the playoffs and posting a 10-6 record would be a marked improvement of previous years and should be recognized as such. I'm saying nothing about the draft but if you would like to discuss the draft, that's fine with me.

I assume you advocate the position of losing all the rest of our games and getting a top 5 pick?

Why would I advocate the position of losing all the rest of our games? That is nonsense. I personally don't think we will finish with a 10-6 record like you do. I think it will be closer to .500 which also happens to be where we are right now. Thus meaning our team is in fact NOT improving...again and that the only reason we are going to win the division is because all the other teams suck even worse than us. This means the odds are heavy that we get smoked in the playoffs(We agree on this), we will then get a back 12 draft pick in the first round, and we will get a first place schedule next year. I was just pointing out that the future looks bleak at this point.

 

[cowboysooner]

This offense has not been very efficient since Murray went out. It has not been efficient against some of the league's worst pass defenses. Teams have blitzed us more and Romo despite his escapability is not as good against the blitz as some of the very good qb's.

Dez is not a smart player and is not great at adjustments or precise route running. Teams are taking away Witten on the hot routes and even If he catches it his RAC threat is diminished. Murray's protection and size/speed aren't there. And Miles another smart explosive guy on slants is gone.

I would think Beasely would help here but it did not on Sunday.

I still don't know why we use Hanna like we do.

 

[Staubacher]

Like I have always said "clutch" is a myth here in Cowboyszone. It is a term of opinion used to praise other QBs for not having a great game but when the chips are down late in the game the light bulb goes off and the QB mans up and leads the team to a TD and does not make a critical error.

So when Romo throws a total of 3 meaningful passes in the 4th QTR for 110 yards and two TDs, and helps deliver a 10 point lead twice...well clutch does not apply. I understand there was some really awesome YAC going on but evidently Romo hit the right guy, did not throw an INT, did not take a sack, and etc.

Yup. When Romo has great stats for 3 quarters and makes a 4th quarter mistake - it's "he sucks because all those other plays didn't count he failed when it came to crunch time". When Romo has poor stats for 3 quarters but shines in the 4th to repeatedly give the team the lead it's "he sucks because those first 3 quarters were more important we could have had a bigger lead".

Romo has managed the games excellently - the plan this year was to have a better running game and defense and Romo to not throw games away while still making some plays but not forcing things. My God he has done exactly that. But our running game still stinks and our defense is all-time dreadful and it's his fault we are 4-4 because he isn't putting up 50 points a game by just chucking up jump balls to Dez 30 times a game

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why would I advocate the position of losing all the rest of our games? That is nonsense. I personally don't think we will finish with a 10-6 record like you do. I think it will be closer to .500 which also happens to be where we are right now. Thus meaning our team is in fact NOT improving...again and that the only reason we are going to win the division is because all the other teams suck even worse than us. This means the odds are heavy that we get smoked in the playoffs(We agree on this), we will then get a back 12 draft pick in the first round, and we will get a first place schedule next year. I was just pointing out that the future looks bleak at this point.

My point exactly ufcrules. It makes no sense to adopt the attitude that we win the division by default, we have nowhere to go, even if we make the playoffs and all we have to look forward to is a middle of the road 1st round draft pick.

I do not agree with your take here. If we can win 10 games, if we make the playoffs, those are big steps towards progress. We haven't won 10 games or more since 2009 and have only had 3 seasons in which we have won double digit games in 15 years. 10 wins and a playoff appearance would be a step forward. Next year, Leary will be more experienced, Fredbeard will be an animal and we probably have a chance to get Waters back. Our young secondary will be more healthy and more experienced, we have young DLs who are coming along and we will be able to add much needed talent there. We have young LBs who are very talented and they are going to be much better in this scheme. We have a lot of real talent at the WR position and they will be better. We will be rid of a lot of dead weight on both sides of the ball and our cap will start coming back in line. Everybody new that we were basically rebuilding at the beginning of the seasons. We were going with youth in a lot of areas and that trend is going to continue. Young players get older and more experienced. That's a good thing. To expect that we could make the playoffs this year was a very optimistic thing IMO. We actually might.

I just don't share your view on this thing. I think we are coming along. Learning things and getting better.

 

[Staubacher]

My point exactly ufcrules. It makes no sense to adopt the attitude that we win the division by default, we have nowhere to go, even if we make the playoffs and all we have to look forward to is a middle of the road 1st round draft pick.

I do not agree with your take here. If we can win 10 games, if we make the playoffs, those are big steps towards progress. We haven't won 10 games or more since 2009 and have only had 3 seasons in which we have won double digit games in 15 years. 10 wins and a playoff appearance would be a step forward. Next year, Leary will be more experienced, Fredbeard will be an animal and we probably have a chance to get Waters back. Our young secondary will be more healthy and more experienced, we have young DLs who are coming along and we will be able to add much needed talent there. We have young LBs who are very talented and they are going to be much better in this scheme. We have a lot of real talent at the WR position and they will be better. We will be rid of a lot of dead weight on both sides of the ball and our cap will start coming back in line. Everybody new that we were basically rebuilding at the beginning of the seasons. We were going with youth in a lot of areas and that trend is going to continue. Young players get older and more experienced. That's a good thing. To expect that we could make the playoffs this year was a very optimistic thing IMO. We actually might.

I just don't share your view on this thing. I think we are coming along. Learning things and getting better.

I was of the opinion we are coming along but the results aren't there.

Not just the 4-4 record and same ol' blowing games thingy.

The roster is weak. None of our 3 backup RBs have done anything much and the main guy can't stay on the field.
We were thought to have great WR depth. We are down to maybe 3 good WRs if you count The Beas.
We were told the TE position would be a huge asset in the passing game. It's still only witten and his influence is down as well.
The Oline showed some hope but Waters is done and Leary has regressed. 3 out of 5 ain't bad I guess.
That's just the offense, do I need to point out the holes in the worst-ever defense?

The one area we have clearly improved is special teams. That's good. Other than that nothing is coming along nicely.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I was of the opinion we are coming along but the results aren't there.

Not just the 4-4 record and same ol' blowing games thingy.

The roster is weak. None of our 3 backup RBs have done anything much and the main guy can't stay on the field.
We were thought to have great WR depth. We are down to maybe 3 good WRs if you count The Beas.
We were told the TE position would be a huge asset in the passing game. It's still only witten and his influence is down as well.
The Oline showed some hope but Waters is done and Leary has regressed. 3 out of 5 ain't bad I guess.
That's just the offense, do I need to point out the holes in the worst-ever defense?

The one area we have clearly improved is special teams. That's good. Other than that nothing is coming along nicely.

I don't agree.

 

[Staubacher]

I don't agree.

That's fine. What specific area that I mentioned was I wrong about?

 

[ufcrules1]

I do not agree with your take here. If we can win 10 games, if we make the playoffs, those are big steps towards progress.

Yes, "IF" we can win 10 games. Currently we are sitting at .500 and have only beaten losing teams. I agree, if we can get to 10 wins, that is progress, but that is a big "IF" at this point.

Next year, Leary will be more experienced, Fredbeard will be an animal and we probably have a chance to get Waters back.

All of that is nothing more than hope. Waters will then be 37 1/2 years old. Sure he has been terrific but as people age they start having injuries or lose their ability. Not sure how much he will even have left. I certainly wouldn't count on him. Leary has chronic knee problems, no telling how long we have him for. Not something to get excited about.. IMO anyway.

I would quote the rest of your post but I think you are being overly optimistic. I see the same problems year in and year out with this team. Currently we are nothing more than a .500 team and I don't see anything changing that. The one thing I can honestly say I am happy about right now is the turnovers our team is getting, but with that said, we are still giving up more points than any other team in the NFL, so it feels like a wash. I can't say I see a future team here that will be above .500.

I like you ABQ... but will just respectfully disagree with you. You do know if I'm wrong I will admit it though.