Romo vs Marino; Battle of the Quick Releases

[the kid 05]

I forget which game it was but they had said they went back and timed Romo's release and it was as fast, if not faster then Marino's. So i figured i'd compare their stats. (for this experiment im only using Marinos first 3 seasons)

Marino's Line: att: 1427, completions: 871. comp % = 61%. tds = 98(6%) 44 ints (3%) 11431 yards// 8 ypa. 41 times sacked.

Romo's Line: att: 1307, comp: 831. comp % = 63%. tds= 81 (6%) 46 ints ( 3.5%) 10562 yards// 8 ypa. 65 times sacked

While Marino has more touchdowns that included his then record 48 passing touchdowns. I was kinda shocked to see how close they played together statistically

 

[Idgit]

I forget which game it was but they had said they went back and timed Romo's release and it was as fast, if not faster then Marino's. So i figured i'd compare their stats. (for this experiment im only using Marinos first 3 seasons)

Marino's Line: att: 1427, completions: 871. comp % = 61%. tds = 98(6%) 44 ints (3%) 11431 yards// 8 ypa. 41 times sacked.

Romo's Line: att: 1307, comp: 831. comp % = 63%. tds= 81 (6%) 46 ints ( 3.5%) 10562 yards// 8 ypa. 65 times sacked

While Marino has more touchdowns that included his then record 48 passing touchdowns. I was kinda shocked to see how close they played together statistically

Marino threw for 17 more TDs with 2 fewer picks. That's not really all that close, statistically. Still, if they'd had sports boards in his day, there'd be fans willing to give Marino 'one more year to show if he can cut it' based off of those numbers.

I remember the Romo release comparison when it was made, too. That's high praise considering how fast Marino was.

 

[the kid 05]

Marino threw for 17 more TDs with 2 fewer picks. That's not really all that close, statistically. Still, if they'd had sports boards in his day, there'd be fans willing to give Marino 'one more year to show if he can cut it' based off of those numbers.

I remember the Romo release comparison when it was made, too. That's high praise considering how fast Marino was.

I'll revisit this thread after Romo breaks Brady's touchdown record w/ 53 this year

Marino's extra 120 pass attempts would give Romo another 3-4 touchdowns but possibly another 1-2 ints as well

 

[Idgit]

I'll revisit this thread after Romo breaks Brady's touchdown record w/ 53 this year

Marino's extra 120 pass attempts would give Romo another 3-4 touchdowns but possibly another 1-2 ints as well

Hey, there's no shame in coming in second in a race with Marino. Though I'll never understand how such a great NFL QB can be dumber than a box of rusty hammers.

 

[TNCowboy]

I forget which game it was but they had said they went back and timed Romo's release and it was as fast, if not faster then Marino's. So i figured i'd compare their stats. (for this experiment im only using Marinos first 3 seasons)

Marino's Line: att: 1427, completions: 871. comp % = 61%. tds = 98(6%) 44 ints (3%) 11431 yards// 8 ypa. 41 times sacked.

Romo's Line: att: 1307, comp: 831. comp % = 63%. tds= 81 (6%) 46 ints ( 3.5%) 10562 yards// 8 ypa. 65 times sacked

While Marino has more touchdowns that included his then record 48 passing touchdowns. I was kinda shocked to see how close they played together statistically

For the most part, no one can complain about Romo's play pre-December.

Still, the whole thing looked off to me, even in the first 3 games when everyone had the team on a pedestal.

 

[CactusCowboy]

Night and Day. We do not even know if Tony can win a playoff game. Marino was a stud, not sure what Romo is.

 

[RCowboyFan]

But number of times sacked is really differ quite a bit.

 

[THUMPER]

Night and Day. We do not even know if Tony can win a playoff game. Marino was a stud, not sure what Romo is.

Marino was a stud to be sure, yet he only took his team to the SB one time in his career and lost that one. Maybe he really sucked, like Peyton Manning did until his TEAM won a playoff game and a SB.

This whole playoff game record thing is just a convenient way for people to ignore the facts and write him off.

 

[the kid 05]

Night and Day. We do not even know if Tony can win a playoff game. Marino was a stud, not sure what Romo is.

you just brought up the next stats super bowl wins...

 

[tunahelper]

I love Romo, but he aint no Marino. Marino was sacked most seasons under 10 per year and he was not mobile.

 

[RS12]

Marino had alot less talent around him throughout his career than Romo did IMO. Marino never had a running game.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Marino threw for 17 more TDs with 2 fewer picks. That's not really all that close, statistically. Still, if they'd had sports boards in his day, there'd be fans willing to give Marino 'one more year to show if he can cut it' based off of those numbers.

I remember the Romo release comparison when it was made, too. That's high praise considering how fast Marino was.

Yeah I was looking at Marino's 120 more pass attempts and 2 less picks.

 

[THUMPER]

Marino had alot less talent around him throughout his career than Romo did IMO. Marino never had a running game.

That's a pathetically weak argument and it doesn't hold water.

Marino didn't need a running game, he had outstanding receivers throughout his career.

Shula's teams were predominantly running teams until Marino came along. The Dolphins had some excellent teams during Marino's tenure there. In fact they went to the SB the year BEFORE Marino was drafted, so much for them not having a talented team. You think it was Don Strock or David Woodley who got them there?

Truly a weak argument.

 

[RS12]

Weak arguement when the Defense only needs to defend the pass? No balance to keep defense honest. Too me, makes Marino's accomplishments more impressive.

 

[TNCowboy]

Marino had alot less talent around him throughout his career than Romo did IMO. Marino never had a running game.

A lot less? That's only partly true.

Not early in his career when he had Clayton, Duper, Nat Moore, and Tony Nathan. They had a ton of receiving talent and a great pass-blocking OL for Marino's first 5 or so years.

 

[THUMPER]

Weak arguement when the Defense only needs to defend the pass? No balance to keep defense honest. Too me, makes Marino's accomplishments more impressive.

You must be too young to remember 1985 because if you did remember it you would know that one of the best defenses in the history of the NFL was taken apart by that same one-dimensional offense you tout. The Bears were undefeated (12-0) until they ran into the Dolphins and their passing game. Marino's quick release nullified the Bears 46 defense and killer pass rush.

The Dolphins only ran for 90 yards but Marino passed for 270 and 3 TDs as Clayton, Duper, and Nat Moore each had over 75 yards receiving.

That Bears team went on to win the SB after going 15-1 in the regular season. This game was their only loss that year and it wasn't that the Bears played a bad game, it was just that the passing game of the Dolphins beat them.

There really wasn't much of a running game to keep th Bears defense honest yet it didn't matter.

Next.

 

[TNCowboy]

Let's hope Marino doesn't ultimately prove to be a good comparison.

While he's one of the all-time greats and will probably always be considered a better player than Tony Romo, he struggled in the playoffs. He had a losing record in the playoffs, and never won a SB. The Dolphins always lacked a solid running game to fall back on, and more often than not, good defenses in the playoffs are able to shut down one-dimensional teams like Marino's Dolphins.

As for why Marino got sacked less than Romo, he had a better pass-blocking OL early in his career, including arguably the best center to ever play. He also was much more decisive in just getting rid of the ball, while Romo seems to never give up on a play, even though he sometimes should.

I know they did the silly side-by-side comparison thing last year that showed Romo having as fast or faster release than Romo, but I'd say as a whole, Marino had the fastest release I've ever seen.

 

[THUMPER]

Let's hope Marino doesn't ultimately prove to be a good comparison.

While he's one of the all-time greats and will probably always be considered a better player than Tony Romo, he struggled in the playoffs. He had a losing record in the playoffs, and never won a SB. The Dolphins always lacked a solid running game to fall back on, and more often than not, good defenses in the playoffs are able to shut down one-dimensional teams like Marino's Dolphins.

As for why Marino got sacked less than Romo, he had a better pass-blocking OL early in his career, including arguably the best center to ever play. He also was much more decisive in just getting rid of the ball, while Romo seems to never give up on a play, even though he sometimes should.

I know they did the silly side-by-side comparison thing last year that showed Romo having as fast or faster release than Romo, but I'd say as a whole, Marino had the fastest release I've ever seen.

Marino also had receivers in Clayton, Duper, and Moore who ran their routes with precision so he could get the ball out before they were even into their breaks.

With guys like Owens & Crayton who cut off their routes or slow up Romo has had to wait. Aikman had that same advantage with Irvin and Novacek, he KNEW where they would be. Romo doesn't have those same kind of receivers, except in Witten, but hopefully he will.

All that aside, Marino had the quickest release I've ever seen and I've seen them all (almost).

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Let's hope Marino doesn't ultimately prove to be a good comparison.

Ouch. I was thinking it and you said it. :laugh2:





These two are just the Marino party line.

1. Marino never had a running game.
2. Marino didnt have good players around him.

Marino never wanted any part of "developing" a running game.


Marino in the huddle. "ok we handed off the ball and only got 3 yards. I am gonna throw on the next few plays, ok?"

team - ok

 

[THUMPER]

Ouch. I was thinking it and you said it. :laugh2:





These two are just the Marino party line.

1. Marino never had a running game.
2. Marino didnt have good players around him.

Marino never wanted any part of "developing" a running game.


Marino in the huddle. "ok we handed off the ball and only got 3 yards. I am gonna throw on the next few plays, ok?"

team - ok

Like I said, Shula's teams were predominantly running teams until Marino got there. Marino didn't need a running game and wouldn't have used one anyway. So it's not like they couldn't, they chose not to.