Romo Wins the Passing Title

mahoneybill

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a little FYI for the Rodgers MVP lovers:
NFL leaders:
yards - Brees 4,952 (Rodgers 8th) Romo 14th
td's - Luck 40 (Rodgers 3rd) Romo 4th
int's - Rodgers 5 ..... Romo 5th
rating - Romo 113.2 (Rodgers 2nd)
percentage - Romo 69.9 (Rodgers 9th)

and in QBR
1Tony Romo, DAL86.23.3-18.95.175.7537103.961.1 (82.8)
2Aaron Rodgers, GB91.911.7-17.06.693.2648125.073.4 (82.6)

update with week 17 included ..... jus sayn'

Thanks for that detail. To me if it comes down to Rodgers vs Romo for MVP and Rodgers wins it will be a travesty. But if Tony gets first ring I'm sure he won't care....
 

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"Passing title" just means "led the league in passer rating", the same way "home run title" means "led the league in home runs."

Kind of.
Tell me if you think this is a better analogy.
Passer rating similar to batting average title
Most passing yards (or maybe most TD passes) closer to most Home Runs

Also, I think some people say "top passer" is the one with the most yards. I think that's silly though. You can throw for a ton of yards but end up with 25 TDs and 30 ints.
 
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From what I hear, if any QB other than Romo wins MVP, that would be the first time in story that a QB who did not lead the NFL in QBR won the MVP... They always change the criteria for Romo...
 

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This is only the 7th time in the last 38 seasons that a QB has led the league in passer rating, completion percentage, touchdown percentage, and yards per pass attempt. The other six QB who did it all won the Most Valuable Player award for that season.

2014 Romo
2007 Brady
2001 Warner
1999 Warner
1994 Young
1992 Young
1989 Montana


bold = MVP
 
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Thanks for that detail. To me if it comes down to Rodgers vs Romo for MVP and Rodgers wins it will be a travesty. But if Tony gets first ring I'm sure he won't care....

Travesty? You think the gulf is that wide?
 

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Peter king splits his vote between Watt and Rodgers. Citing Rogers performance on his poor little hurt leg yesterday. No mention of tony playing with a broken back all year.

No east coast bias here. Move along.
 

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Brady had some games this year that were subpar for him.

Yeah.
My guess is that if you look at every QB very season, every one of them will have had 1-2 (and most more) subpar games in a 16 game season.

As great as Brady is, just last year he threw game-ending late 4th qtr ints in three different games. The press just doesn't go nuts over it with him.
 

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Murray will pull some votes from Romo for sure.
Also, the QBs (Rodgers, Romo, Brady) will all divide votes from each other--which gives Watt a chance.
 

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Peter king splits his vote between Watt and Rodgers. Citing Rogers performance on his poor little hurt leg yesterday. No mention of tony playing with a broken back all year.

No east coast bias here. Move along.

I think it's VERY close and yes anti-Romo bias will probably cinch it for Rodgers.

I think Romo deserves it. In all actuality I think it was a typical year for Aaron Rodgers -- he didn't do anything that wasn't expected from him. Romo truly elevated his game this season and really was every bit the passer Rodgers was and probably a bit more.

In Romo's Favor

Completion Percentage

Higher Completion percentage by over 4 points. At first blush you might think it was because Rodger's always throwing bombs but then you look and see Romo's YPA (8.5) were also higher than Rodger's (8.4)

TD Percentage

Romo's TD percentage was a full half point (7.8 vs 7.3) higher than Rodgers. TD percentage (along with INT percentage) provide possibly the best metric to even out passing stats where the results are skewed by attempts.

QB Rating

The QB rating. It was just 1 point difference but that fact that Romo won it should factor heavily in the equation

In Rodger's Favor

TDs vs Turnovers

Rodgers: 40 TDs (38 Passing, 2 Rushing) vs 7 Turnovers (5 Ints, 2 lost fumbles)
Romo: 34 TDs (34 Passing, 0 Rushing) vs 12 Turnovers (9 Ints, 3 fumbles lost)

As percentages these differences aren't huge however I think the fact that Rodgers scored 6 more times than Romo and turned it over 5 less times will factor heavily.

Rushing

Rodgers ran for 20 first downs and 269 yards total -- his ability to run for 1st downs when everything else is breaking down sets him apart from the other time big time passers. Romo did actually also run for 4 first downs, however, obviously that's not a big part of his game.

Summary

I think the numbers are close the QB rating and TD percentage would normally cinch it for Romo. Having said that I believe that its VERY likely Rodgers wins it because (A) general anti-Romo bias that has built up over the past decade (B) I think votes will look beyond the single point separating them on QB rating and look more closely that Rodgers had 6 more TDs and 5 less turnovers.

What's hard to tell is how voters will factor Romo's play DESPITE his back injuries. I personally think it's huge but I have my doubt that the MVP voters really will factor it in.
 
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