Romo working his 4th qtr magic ... Yet again

[WV Cowboy]

Tony Romo has led 11 game-winning drives in 4th qtr or OT last 3 seasons.. That’s the MOST in NFL during that time.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

This is the most intentionally misleading stat to come down the pike in a long time, courtesy of FOX Sports.

They tell you Romo's rating is 74, then give that number no context. So you assume it's a low number. It's not. Truth is, it's actually well above average.

If you take the 32 QB with the most attempts in this situation (5 minutes or less to go in the 4th quarter and either tied or down by less than 7 points), Romo ranks 10th out of 32.

Any stat in which a player or team ranks 10th out of 32 is a good stat for that player. He's one of the top 10 QB in the NFL over his career in these situations. And remember, FOX picked the parameters that would give Romo the lowest rating possible. If you change the situation to "2 minutes or less" Romo moves up to 5th. If you make it "8 minutes or less" he moves up to 6th. You finally just have to conclude that he's very good in these situations.

Despite the best efforts of the good folks at FOX and what they want you to believe.

That was my question.. where do you go about finding such a complex statistic?

8 minutes left, 5 minutes left, 2 minutes left.. i wouldn't know where to find these things, lol.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

http://www.pro-football-reference.c...der_by=yards#;;filters=quarterback:3,gt,138-;

Thanks, Percy.

 

[percyhoward]

Note that Fox chose for their graphic the lowest of Romo's ratings (@ 5:00 remaining).

Highest Pass Rating by Time Remaining
4th Quarter, margin between -7 and 0 points
Rank among 32 QB with most attempts

@15:00 remaining
1. PManning 93.1
2. Romo 92.6
3. Brees 88.3
4. Schaub 87.2
5. EManning 86.4
6. Roethlisberger 85.9
7. Cutler 84.7
8. Palmer 82.6
9. Gannon 81.5
10. Brady 81.0

@14:00 remaining
1. Romo 90.7
2. Cutler 89.8
3. EManning 89.4
4. PManning 88.7
5. Schaub 88.6
6. Brees 87.0
7. Roethlisberger 86.0
8. Palmer 84.3
9. Brooks 81.6
10. Ryan 81.0

@13:00 remaining
1. Cutler 91.2
2. PManning 88.6
3. Romo 88.4
4. Schaub 87.2
5. Roethlisberger 86.4
6. EManning 85.6
7. Brees 85.1
8. Vick 84.8
9. Palmer 84.3
10. Brooks 82.5

@12:00 remaining
1. Cutler 91.0
2. PManning 89.7
3. Romo 88.7
4. Schaub 87.8
5. Brees 84.6
6. Roethlisberger 84.6
7. Palmer 82.9
8. EManning 82.3
9. Brooks 81.8
10. Culpepper 81.1

@11:00 remaining
1. Cutler 90.5
2. Schaub 89.9
3. Romo 89.7
4. PManning 88.7
5. Roethlisberger 85.7
6. Brees 83.7
7. Palmer 82.8
8. Brooks 81.8
9. EManning 79.2
10. Gannon 78.0

@10:00 remaining
1. Cutler 92.1
2. PManning 88.9
3. Romo 88.3
4. Schaub 87.8
5. Roethlisberger 85.0
6. Brees 82.9
7. Brooks 82.4
8. Palmer 81.4
9. EManning 81.0
10. Vick 80.7

@9:00 remaining
1. Cutler 93.7
2. Schaub 90.2
3. Roethlisberger 87.6
4. PManning 86.9
5. Romo 86.9
6. Vick 83.4
7. Palmer 81.9
8. EManning 81.3
9. Brees 81.1
10. Delhomme 80.8

@8:00 remaining
1. Schaub 92.3
2. Cutler 92.1
3. Roethlisberger 86.8
4. PManning 86.0
5. Vick 83.6
6. Mcnabb 80.5
7. Romo 80.2
8. Delhomme 79.3
9. Ryan 78.2
10. Brooks 78.0

@7:00 remaining
1. Cutler 89.9
2. Schaub 88.0
3. PManning 87.7
4. Roethlisberger 85.6
5. Romo 83.1
6. Vick 82.0
7. Gannon 80.1
8. McNabb 78.6
9. EManning 77.3
10. Delhomme 76.5

@6:00 remaining
1. Schaub 88.3
2. PManning 87.1
3. Roethlisberger 85.3
4. Cutler 84.4
5. Gannon 83.1
6. McNabb 78.5
7. Romo 78.0
8. EManning 76.4
9. McNair 76.2
10. Brady 76.0


@5:00 remaining
1. Schaub 90.4
2. Cutler 88.0
3. PManning 86.0
4. Roethlisberger 84.4
5. Gannon 81.1
6. Griese 79.4
7. McNabb 79.2
8. Delhomme 79.1
9. McNair 76.9
10. Romo 76.4

@4:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 96.0
2. Cutler 90.1
3. Griese 85.1
4. PManning 83.0
5. Schaub 81.9
6. Roethlisberger 81.6
7. Gannon 81.4
8. EManning 78.8
9. Stafford 78.6
10. McNabb 78.3
(13. Romo 75.7)

@3:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 102.4
2. Cutler 91.6
3. Griese 86.3
4. Roethlisberger 80.6
5. McNair 79.4
6. Schaub 79.2
7. Gannon 77.6
8. Romo 76.9
9. Stafford 76.5
10. Brady 74.3

@2:00 remaining
1. Cutler 87.7
2. Schaub 80.1
3. Brady 77.5
4. Romo 77.4
5. Roethlisberger 76.8
6. McNabb 73.4
7. Gannon 72.7
8. Brooks 72.0
9. EManning 71.6
10. Stafford 70.8

@1:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 95.9
2. Griese 92.9
3. Romo 84.6
4. Brady 84.0
5. Schaub 79.1
6. Rivers 74.6
7. Grbac 71.9
8. BJohnson 66.7
9. Ryan 65.8
10. McNabb 65.1

 

[TimHortons]

Note that Fox chose for their graphic the lowest of Romo's ratings (@ 5:00 remaining).

Highest Pass Rating by Time Remaining
4th Quarter, margin between -7 and 0 points
Rank among 32 QB with most attempts

@15:00 remaining
1. PManning 93.1
2. Romo 92.6
3. Brees 88.3
4. Schaub 87.2
5. EManning 86.4
6. Roethlisberger 85.9
7. Cutler 84.7
8. Palmer 82.6
9. Gannon 81.5
10. Brady 81.0

@14:00 remaining
1. Romo 90.7
2. Cutler 89.8
3. EManning 89.4
4. PManning 88.7
5. Schaub 88.6
6. Brees 87.0
7. Roethlisberger 86.0
8. Palmer 84.3
9. Brooks 81.6
10. Ryan 81.0

@13:00 remaining
1. Cutler 91.2
2. PManning 88.6
3. Romo 88.4
4. Schaub 87.2
5. Roethlisberger 86.4
6. EManning 85.6
7. Brees 85.1
8. Vick 84.8
9. Palmer 84.3
10. Brooks 82.5

@12:00 remaining
1. Cutler 91.0
2. PManning 89.7
3. Romo 88.7
4. Schaub 87.8
5. Brees 84.6
6. Roethlisberger 84.6
7. Palmer 82.9
8. EManning 82.3
9. Brooks 81.8
10. Culpepper 81.1

@11:00 remaining
1. Cutler 90.5
2. Schaub 89.9
3. Romo 89.7
4. PManning 88.7
5. Roethlisberger 85.7
6. Brees 83.7
7. Palmer 82.8
8. Brooks 81.8
9. EManning 79.2
10. Gannon 78.0

@10:00 remaining
1. Cutler 92.1
2. PManning 88.9
3. Romo 88.3
4. Schaub 87.8
5. Roethlisberger 85.0
6. Brees 82.9
7. Brooks 82.4
8. Palmer 81.4
9. EManning 81.0
10. Vick 80.7

@9:00 remaining
1. Cutler 93.7
2. Schaub 90.2
3. Roethlisberger 87.6
4. PManning 86.9
5. Romo 86.9
6. Vick 83.4
7. Palmer 81.9
8. EManning 81.3
9. Brees 81.1
10. Delhomme 80.8

@8:00 remaining
1. Schaub 92.3
2. Cutler 92.1
3. Roethlisberger 86.8
4. PManning 86.0
5. Vick 83.6
6. Mcnabb 80.5
7. Romo 80.2
8. Delhomme 79.3
9. Ryan 78.2
10. Brooks 78.0

@7:00 remaining
1. Cutler 89.9
2. Schaub 88.0
3. PManning 87.7
4. Roethlisberger 85.6
5. Romo 83.1
6. Vick 82.0
7. Gannon 80.1
8. McNabb 78.6
9. EManning 77.3
10. Delhomme 76.5

@6:00 remaining
1. Schaub 88.3
2. PManning 87.1
3. Roethlisberger 85.3
4. Cutler 84.4
5. Gannon 83.1
6. McNabb 78.5
7. Romo 78.0
8. EManning 76.4
9. McNair 76.2
10. Brady 76.0


@5:00 remaining
1. Schaub 90.4
2. Cutler 88.0
3. PManning 86.0
4. Roethlisberger 84.4
5. Gannon 81.1
6. Griese 79.4
7. McNabb 79.2
8. Delhomme 79.1
9. McNair 76.9
10. Romo 76.4

@4:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 96.0
2. Cutler 90.1
3. Griese 85.1
4. PManning 83.0
5. Schaub 81.9
6. Roethlisberger 81.6
7. Gannon 81.4
8. EManning 78.8
9. Stafford 78.6
10. McNabb 78.3
(13. Romo 75.7)

@3:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 102.4
2. Cutler 91.6
3. Griese 86.3
4. Roethlisberger 80.6
5. McNair 79.4
6. Schaub 79.2
7. Gannon 77.6
8. Romo 76.9
9. Stafford 76.5
10. Brady 74.3

@2:00 remaining
1. Cutler 87.7
2. Schaub 80.1
3. Brady 77.5
4. Romo 77.4
5. Roethlisberger 76.8
6. McNabb 73.4
7. Gannon 72.7
8. Brooks 72.0
9. EManning 71.6
10. Stafford 70.8

@1:00 remaining
1. Delhomme 95.9
2. Griese 92.9
3. Romo 84.6
4. Brady 84.0
5. Schaub 79.1
6. Rivers 74.6
7. Grbac 71.9
8. BJohnson 66.7
9. Ryan 65.8
10. McNabb 65.1

These have to be the most arbitrary stats I've ever seen

 

[percyhoward]

These have to be the most arbitrary stats I've ever seen

The parameters were specified. Maybe you mean the names that come up seem arbitrary?

 

[TimHortons]

The parameters were specified. Maybe you mean the names that come up seem arbitrary?

Maybe arbitrary isn't the correct word, but having stats for each minute left in a quarter is a pretty useless metric. The fact that a QB has a higher rating with 10 minutes left in a quarter vs 9 minutes left in a quarter doesn't mean anything. None of this is directed at you I appreciate the work to find and post the stats, I just think the stats themselves are pretty useless

 

[gimmesix]

Brady, Brees, Favre, Ryan, and Rivers all have lower ratings than Romo in this stat.

What's funny is, if you change the parameters to "last 6 minutes" or "last 4 minutes," Romo is in the top 10.

It's the ultimate example of cherry-picking, courtesy FOX Sports.

That really was kind of a weird, cherry-picked stat. How do you decide on those parameters? And then to not put the numbers in context of other QB rankings in that category ...

 

[percyhoward]

That really was kind of a weird, cherry-picked stat. How do you decide on those parameters? And then to not put the numbers in context of other QB rankings in that category ...

Simple. You don't like Romo, you're dishonest, and you wish to use your position of power to deceive, and it doesn't bother you.

It should be classiified as a psychological disorder, but then so should greed and racism, and they're a lot more serious.