Romo's contract - How much?

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Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.
 

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Where are you getting those numbers?

$29 million signing bonus. 2013: $1 million, 2014: $6 million (+ $15 million option bonus), 2015: $4 million (+ $7 million option bonus)

More like 3 years 63 million
 

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xwalker;5022307 said:
Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.

Sure, Dilfer didn't last long in Baltimore after he got his ring, no reason to think Flacco will, and Romo is as gifted as Flacco.
 

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FLcowboy;5022321 said:
Sure, Dilfer didn't last long in Baltimore after he got his ring, no reason to think Flacco will, and Romo is as gifted as Flacco.

5 years
90+mil
45+mil guaranteed

IMVHO
 

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hra8700;5022319 said:
Where are you getting those numbers?

$29 million signing bonus. 2013: $1 million, 2014: $6 million (+ $15 million option bonus), 2015: $4 million (+ $7 million option bonus)

More like 3 years 63 million

The options bonuses are only guaranteed for injury.

The original report that I saw had the options bonuses coming in later years. With the option bonuses being in 2014 and 2015, it would be 3-years 62M (20.6M average).
 

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xwalker;5022375 said:
The options bonuses are only guaranteed for injury.

The original report that I saw had the options bonuses coming in later years. With the option bonuses being in 2014 and 2015, it would be 3-years 62M (20.6M average).

The fact that they are guaranteed for injury only (which I'm not sure is true or not) isn't that relevant here. If he's cut after 2013, he's being paid 30 million dollars for one year. The "money year" is 2015 where he will only be paid 11 million. So unless he starts to drastically underperform he is essentially "guaranteed" all of that money. From that point onwards he could be cut at any time.

There is no way in hell romo will sign 3 years 40 million, that would be vastly vastly underpaying for him. That is top receiver money, not top qb money.
 

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Going by spotrac I'm getting 3yr/47.75 roughly 15.92 per season.

B+ba+ba+ba+mB+mB
29+1+6+4+3+4.75=47.75
 

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LittleD;5022327 said:
5 years
90+mil
45+mil guaranteed

IMVHO

This is pretty much what I figured too. I'm hoping that we can get him for 80 million maybe 50 million guaranteed.

40 million dollar signing bonus.


spread 8 million in salary cap over 5 years

2013 - 3.5 million base salary + 8 million signing bonus
2014 - 5 million base salary + 8 million signing bonus
2015 - 10 million base salary + 8 million signing bonus
2016 - 10.5 million base salary + 8 million signing bonus
2017 - 11 million base salary + 8 million signing bonus

Believe that saves us about 5 million this year, and is pretty manageable.
 

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Romo is not a good enough player to overcome his market value.

We should draft a quarterback early because if a Manuel, Glennon, Jones hit, you have $60 million dollars in saved cap space over 4 years plus a franchise tag.
 

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hra8700;5022384 said:
The fact that they are guaranteed for injury only (which I'm not sure is true or not) isn't that relevant here. If he's cut after 2013, he's being paid 30 million dollars for one year. The "money year" is 2015 where he will only be paid 11 million. So unless he starts to drastically underperform he is essentially "guaranteed" all of that money. From that point onwards he could be cut at any time.

There is no way in hell romo will sign 3 years 40 million, that would be vastly vastly underpaying for him. That is top receiver money, not top qb money.
CONTRACT:6 yr(s) / $120,600,000 SIGNING BONUS $29,000,000 AVERAGE SALARY $20,100,000 END YEAR:2018 FREE AGENT:2019 / Unrestricted
YEAR BASE S. BONUS MISC. CAP HIT DEAD
2013 1,000,000 5,800,000 - 6,800,000 29,000,000
2014 6,000,000 5,800,000 3,000,000 14,800,000 38,200,000
2015 4,000,000 5,800,000 4,750,000 14,550,000 36,400,000
2016 18,000,000 5,800,000 4,750,000 28,550,000 25,850,000
2017 20,600,000 5,800,000 4,750,000 31,150,000 15,300,000
2018 20,000,000 - 4,750,000 24,750,000 4,750,000
2019 UFA
$29 million guaranteed
Additional $23M guaranteed for injury only
2014 Option Bonus: $15 million (guaranteed for injury)
2015 Option Bonus: $7 million (guaranteed for injury)
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/baltimore-ravens/joe-flacco/
 

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xwalker;5022307 said:
Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.

Absolutely.

If the first three years looked like that for us, it would be a bargain
 

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xwalker;5022307 said:
Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.

That would be Brady's contract 3/40. Flacco 3/62. Romo should be 3/36 as far as guaranteed money is concerned.
 

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bkight13;5022409 said:
That would be Brady's contract 3/40. Flacco 3/62. Romo should be 3/36 as far as guaranteed money is concerned.

Obviously he would want a longer contract than that... or a lot more money...
 

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speedkilz88;5022389 said:

Thanks, so it is guaranteed for injury only. However, look at this situation.

Joe flacco is guaranteed 30 million in 2013.

Then the club has a decision. Do they pay him 32 million over 2 years or cut him. What possible circumstance would lead to them cutting him unless he was injured (at which point, his bonuses would be guaranteed?). 16 million per year is a good deal for Joe Flacco, unless all of a sudden he turns into Mark Sanchez.

So in essence, the entire three years is almost assuredly going to paid (whether it is "guaranteed" or not), so his contract is 62 million over the first 3 years.

There is no way in hell romo would accept a 3 year 40 million dollar deal.

bkight13;5022409 said:
That would be Brady's contract 3/40. Flacco 3/62. Romo should be 3/36 as far as guaranteed money is concerned.

Brady signed a 3 and 27 extension. Brady's contract is a very unique situation. He will be 36 at the start of next season. He signed an extension for his year 38, 39 and 40, fully guaranteed. That is a very unusual contract. His play could fall off a cliff at any moment. But he will still be guaranteed money for the next 5 years. Plus his play will likely be much worse at that age. So Him signing for 9 million a year sounds like he's "taking less" but he's really not. It's all about the circumstance and details of the contract. I've never heard of a player signing a fully guaranteed contract 5 years out in the nfl. That's why the per year numbers seem low (plus his advanced age during those years).
 

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No way can I see them cutting him and taking on the dead money that would follow.
 

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xwalker;5022307 said:
Would you sign Romo to a 3-year, 40M contract (13.3M per year)?

If Flacco is cut after 3 years, his contract basically looks like a 3-year, 40M contract.

That would be a bargin for the Cowboys !!!
 

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With no real FA's left worth signing I'm all for letting Romo play out this year without the extension. If we don't win AT LEAST 1 playoff game then let him walk. I see no real reason to extend at this point.
 

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tm1119;5022447 said:
With no real FA's left worth signing I'm all for letting Romo play out this year without the extension. If we don't win AT LEAST 1 playoff game then let him walk. I see no real reason to extend at this point.

If you do that, you get nothing in return for him. That doesn't sound like a good strategy to me.
 

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hra8700;5022426 said:
Thanks, so it is guaranteed for injury only. However, look at this situation.

Joe flacco is guaranteed 30 million in 2013.

Then the club has a decision. Do they pay him 32 million over 2 years or cut him. What possible circumstance would lead to them cutting him unless he was injured (at which point, his bonuses would be guaranteed?). 16 million per year is a good deal for Joe Flacco, unless all of a sudden he turns into Mark Sanchez.

So in essence, the entire three years is almost assuredly going to paid (whether it is "guaranteed" or not), so his contract is 62 million over the first 3 years.

There is no way in hell romo would accept a 3 year 40 million dollar deal.



Brady signed a 3 and 27 extension. Brady's contract is a very unique situation. He will be 36 at the start of next season. He signed an extension for his year 38, 39 and 40, fully guaranteed. That is a very unusual contract. His play could fall off a cliff at any moment. But he will still be guaranteed money for the next 5 years. Plus his play will likely be much worse at that age. So Him signing for 9 million a year sounds like he's "taking less" but he's really not. It's all about the circumstance and details of the contract. I've never heard of a player signing a fully guaranteed contract 5 years out in the nfl. That's why the per year numbers seem low (plus his advanced age during those years).

Brady's deal isn't fully guaranteed. It is only guaranteed for injury if he is on the team thru 2014. It is still 3/40 no matter how you want to cut it. If he plays the last 2 year, it for a total of 17m.
 

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Galian Beast;5022418 said:
Obviously he would want a longer contract than that... or a lot more money...

That's guaranteed. The contract would look like 5/70 on paper.
 
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