Romo's Health

coult44

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Probably not completely healthy but most quarterbacks don't, it is a physical sport. If we can get 12-14 games out of him, we should be happy, we just need a good backup behind him.

He'll never play more than 9-10 in a season again.
 

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He'll never play more than 9-10 in a season again.

I'll take that bet since that has only happened twice in his career. If Peyton can come back from worst injuries and have career years, so can Romo.
 

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Good idea, maybe we will end up with a Jake Locker, Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert.

Better yet, we can pick those players over players like a JJ Watt or Tyron Smith...but it's okay because we can use another first on a QB in five years if it doesn't turn out.

Welcome to the 2011 draft for the Vikings, Titans and Jaguars. You reach for a QB just for the sake of taking one...you will be burned. In that same draft....the Bengals took AJ Green in the 1st and Andy Dalton in the 2nd, I'll choose that draft myself.

I did say in the 1st 2 rounds. not saying with a top 10 pick.
 

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I am surprised Jerry isn't out there saying..."see, see, I was right, if we took Johnny, we would have had a back up....see"......
Well, I expect that during a SB weekend interview after a bottle of JWB. :lmao2:

He's alluded to as much in pure Jerryspeak so plenty of people didn't understand it, but in a recent interview, he alluded to just what you're describing.
 

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I'll take that bet since that has only happened twice in his career. If Peyton can come back from worst injuries and have career years, so can Romo.

Two back surgeries and a body that's not even close to Mannings. Tony hasn't sculpted his body to go much longer. I'm a huge #9 fan, but he's let himself down on that area.
 

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Since Tony has become the starter, he has played in 127 games out of 154. So he has missed a total of 27 games in his career. 23 games are due to a broken collar bone, this year 13 games and 2010 10 games. So in 9 years, he has missed 4 games not due to a broken collar bone. Broken bones happen. But there is no evidence to suggest that Tony has all of sudden become an injury risk that can't be counted on. He has the same probability to stay healthy as every other QB in the league. I know him being out sucks but let's not go overboard on this. He has a 2 or 3 years left to compete at a high level. There is nothing to point to that says otherwise. While I agree it is time to start finding his successor, it is not a time to panic and over draft someone just for the sake of drafting someone.

I'll point to this very season, in which he was injured not once, but twice.

Ultimately, he played in less than four games out of sixteen, and while not the only reason for this team being terrible, it undoubtedly played a huge role in the collapse of this season. To not address contingencies and risk the same thing happening in 2016 would be inexcusable.

It's been clearly shown that this team has nothing behind Romo and more than anything else, that void needs to be filled for next year.
 

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I'll point to this very season, in which he was injured not once, but twice.

Ultimately, he played in less than four games out of sixteen, and while not the only reason for this team being terrible, it undoubtedly played a huge role in the collapse of this season. To not address contingencies and risk the same thing happening in 2016 would be inexcusable.

It's been clearly shown that this team has nothing behind Romo and more than anything else, that void needs to be filled for next year.

I have no problem with this. We do need a quality back up, just like every team in the league needs one. But that is a far cry from saying Romo can't or won't stay healthy. Yes he was injured twice this year, but to the same area. Not real sure it was fully healed but they needed him back because of the flawed thinking in the off season that Weedon was a capable back up. I would just hate to use a 1st round pick on a 5th round talent just to say we drafted someone early.
 

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I did say in the 1st 2 rounds. not saying with a top 10 pick.

Misread your post, the logic that we must take one in the first always irks me when there are so many historical examples of why taking a QB for the sake of taking one in the 1st is a bad idea. In the second, I take a chance...in the first, I want a premier player.
 

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I have no problem with this. We do need a quality back up, just like every team in the league needs one. But that is a far cry from saying Romo can't or won't stay healthy. Yes he was injured twice this year, but to the same area. Not real sure it was fully healed but they needed him back because of the flawed thinking in the off season that Weedon was a capable back up. I would just hate to use a 1st round pick on a 5th round talent just to say we drafted someone early.

I agree with you really. If the talents not worthy of it, I don't want to see the team force high draft pick on one either. But I think it's too early in the evaluation process to say one way or the other at this point.
 

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How to keep Romo healthy?

- Get rid of the Romo-friendly offense. The offense doesn't need to go through Romo. It needs to go through the offensive line. Which brings up the second point ...
- Protect Romo with a running game. (That means drafting bell-cow backs. I wouldn't be opposed to drafting Derrick Henry in the second and Alex Collins in the fourth.)
- Continue to invest in the defense, which means using our first pick NOT on a quarterback but a defensive lineman or corner.

John Elway was 38 when he won his first Super Bowl and contributed heavily. But Terrell Davis was the key to the victory.
Romo can play until 39 like Elway did. But we MUST protect him and not have him carry the offense.

I just don't know if Garrett or Jerry have it in them to put the reins on Romo.

Post of the day!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 

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Your wife see whats Jerry the GM cant, or wont. Jerry thinks Romo is good to go another 4-5 years.

Jerry is a salesman and an eternal optimist and lastly an egomaniac.
Salesman: He's trying to sell the DC with his best product Romo as hope that we have a chance in the near future so keep your season tickets.
Optimist: He refuses to look at the negatives which had us shopping for a QB long after Aikman and now a backup/replacement for a very questionable Romo. He obviously does not have an exit strategy or plan for the most prolific player on the team so his response is simply a guess.
Egomaniac: It would damage Jerry's ego to be wrong (once again) as a GM about his HC so he's going to ride JG and the health of Romo into the dirt holding off the inevitable barrage of criticism and "I told you so's". Ultimately his need to win with him at the helm is a priority above the DC's well being no matter the costs.
 

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Since Tony has become the starter, he has played in 127 games out of 154. So he has missed a total of 27 games in his career. 23 games are due to a broken collar bone, this year 13 games and 2010 10 games. So in 9 years, he has missed 4 games not due to a broken collar bone. Broken bones happen.

Everything you've stated is undeniably factual.

There is, however, another factual way to look at the Romo's injury history -- a closer examination of his more recent injury history:
  • Romo has failed to make it to the end of 3 out of the last 6 seasons (50%). He missed the end of 2010 with a broken collarbone. 2013 with a back injury. 2015 with a broken collarbone.
  • Over the past 32 Cowboys games (the last two years), outright missed 12 of them (37% of them), and been knocked out of 4 more of them (12.5%). In summary, over the past 32 games, Romo was unable to start or failed to finish to 49.5% of all of his games.
  • In the games he <did> play in, his injuries or lack of amount of time (Thursday's games, etc) to recover seemed to directly contribute to losses. I am talking about 2014 49ers, 2014 Eagles (Thanksgiving), and 2015 Carolina). 3 games total -- all losses. Another 9.3% of games.
  • Over the 32 game period, he been knocked out of games with 3 different injuries (back in 2013, broken bones in the back in 2014, and broken collarbone in 2015).
I agree there are many ways to slice and dice this data. There really is no wrong way. It could be that these bone breaks are just bad luck, etc.

My $0.02 is that the multiple bone injuries over the past two seasons knocking him out of games, combined with his back pain, the injections before every game so he can play, his general inability to get his body right on short turn-around times, etc. --- all add up to a QB who has begun his physical decline and quite possibly in the case of Tony Romo that decline could very abrupt.

Let's hope I am wrong.
 
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So, I was at dinner last night and my wife and mother (of all people) started asking me about the Cowboys. And my wife asked me a really good question.

"Do you think Romo will ever have a healthy season again?"

My first reaction was, "yes, of course!" But then I thought about it and he hasn't had a completely healthy season in a long time. He's getting older, older players don't get healthier.

So my question to you is... "Do you think Romo will ever have a healthy season again?"

her follow up was "if you don't think he will, you have to get a new QB"

Mike and Mike show had doctor on talking about Romo injury. The Dr had major concerns for Romo staying healthy. Said once bone breaks multiple times it becomes weakened....for life.

My thoughts are Romo probably needs to learn to roll to right side when being sacked but this probably puts his throwing shoulder at risk. But really the point is when we are down to asking QB to roll certain way to protect a permanently weakened clavicle its probably time to draft his replacement.
 

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Good idea, maybe we will end up with a Jake Locker, Christian Ponder or Blaine Gabbert.

Better yet, we can pick those players over players like a JJ Watt or Tyron Smith...but it's okay because we can use another first on a QB in five years if it doesn't turn out.

Welcome to the 2011 draft for the Vikings, Titans and Jaguars. You reach for a QB just for the sake of taking one...you will be burned. In that same draft....the Bengals took AJ Green in the 1st and Andy Dalton in the 2nd, I'll choose that draft myself.


Im torn on drafting a QB number 1. I get it, the data supports your opinion and others, ive seen Erod post a few against it. . Its a longgggg shot. And, there should be some game changing talent that can start right away in that top 5...... -- So, I get it.

But, I am alsot inclined to think. "Take that shot". Draft a number 1, draft a number 3 or 4. Bring FAs in, do everything you can possibly do to find the guy. -- Right now. This year. This draft......and next.

I look at the skins, I think they took Cousins same year as RGme. -- Its paid off for them. He is young, but is showing signs of being a franchise QB.

The QB position IS the team....Wouldnt it be nice to have a few?? at least decent QBs...?
 
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