Romo's Pass Release
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the amazing part is Romo wasn't blessed w/ a quick release, he worked at it
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Joe Nameth had that kind of release too, but I can't think of anyone else. The thing about Romo is that he has that quick of a release with a fairly conventional throwing motion whereas both Marino and Nameth had a shorter motion closer to the head...more like a dart throw.Teague31;1571239 said:
I can't wait to see Tony throwing in a game again.
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He is so much fun to watch........the moxie is incrediable.......confindense etc.
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yelp on the nfl show yeasturday when he threw that fast ball to t.o it was so freaking fast i dont even think the lineman had gotten out of there stance it was real fast release hope he does great this year for us
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The only thing DWare lacks is Haley's insane demeanor. But I'm not complaining if the results are similar.
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I hung out with Haley once for a day. He was a guest at one of my dad's community activities (it was like a safety thing for biking) and it didn't turn out so well, so I just ended up tossing the pigskin around with him and just chatting. First thing I thought was, damn, what long freaking arms he had. Anyways, he was a friendly, but distantly so. Just thought I'd relay.zeromaster;1571582 said:
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firehawk350;1571737 said:
Yeah, Haley's demeanor is kinda spooky. He is usually pretty quite and aloof with things are well, but he has a very nasty streak when things are not. Outspoken is an understatement with him when the nasty streak comes out.
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Yeah, it was bizarre. I felt like I had to shout for him to respond, even though he was right there and it had nothing to do with his hearing. I wanted to see his 5 super bowl rings, but I guess he doesn't wear him all the time.nyc;1571753 said:
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While I love the quick release, part of that is his low, 3/4 motion, and that does ocassionally cause problems with finding passing lanes and having passes knocked down or batted up in the air.
I believe overall the quick release will outweigh the potential problems, but considering the release point and Romo's average height there is at least a little concern.
I believe overall the quick release will outweigh the potential problems, but considering the release point and Romo's average height there is at least a little concern.
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I was playing blackjack in Tahoe once right after our 1st superbowl win in Feb 93, met this couple from NY, my area also. The wife left for a while and came back with Charles, whom she went to College with to introduce him to her husband. Since I was the only other player at the table and had made friends with these folks she introduced me also.
I told Charles I was a huge Cowboys fan, as a matter of fact the previous year I made a bet at Tahoe ($100) that the Cowboys would win it all at 15-1 odds for a $1500 payout.
The wife knowing this told Charles and he wide eyed. He laughed about him making me the money and sat down with us and played blackjack for about 45 minutes.
He was totally down to earth and totally friendly, especially after I didn't hit at 12 forcing the card on the dealer who busted, Charles won $500 on that hand and he looked at me and said I'm 1/3 of the way paying him back.
I've heard other stories about him him, but that night he was just one of the guys having fun. It was a great experience for me.
I told Charles I was a huge Cowboys fan, as a matter of fact the previous year I made a bet at Tahoe ($100) that the Cowboys would win it all at 15-1 odds for a $1500 payout.
The wife knowing this told Charles and he wide eyed. He laughed about him making me the money and sat down with us and played blackjack for about 45 minutes.
He was totally down to earth and totally friendly, especially after I didn't hit at 12 forcing the card on the dealer who busted, Charles won $500 on that hand and he looked at me and said I'm 1/3 of the way paying him back.
I've heard other stories about him him, but that night he was just one of the guys having fun. It was a great experience for me.
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Stautner;1571953 said:
And yet, Romo had one of the lowest percentage of passes defensed/knocked down in the entire NFL.
The guy is 6-2, and his release point is pretty high, certainly almost always above his helmet. He doesn't do alot that lends itself to linemen knocking stuff down. I don't suspect that it will ever become a problem.
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superpunk;1572823 said:
You found a % on that?
I recall some of his passes being knocked down, and I believe the big reason there weren't more is that he would scramble out of the pocket anytime there was a question.
I'll bet if you could find it you would see he had a higher percentage throwing on the run and out of the pocket than most.
As for release point, I guess we will have to agree to disagree because I just don't see a high release point at all with Romo.
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Stautner;1572970 said:
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/07/25/ramblings/stat-analysis/5263/
Only 4 QBs had a smaller percentage.
That's his game. His percentage from everywhere, in every situation is pretty darn high, though.
I'll make you a deal - I'll agree that you're wrong.
It probably depends alot on the kind of throw he's making. I tried to find a bunch of stills that were close to his release point, and they don't exactly prove anything, except that these are all the ones I can find, and none look low. (On the ones you can't see the ball in, just click the thumbnail - I had to rehost and it cropped some.)
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superpunk;1572981 said:http://www.footballoutsiders.com/2007/07/25/ramblings/stat-analysis/5263/
Only 4 QBs had a smaller percentage.
That's his game. His percentage from everywhere, in every situation is pretty darn high, though.
I'll make you a deal - I'll agree that you're wrong.
I'll buy that you found a stat on passes blocked, but I don't buy that you can separate out the % from throws in the pocket versus throws on the run and out of the pocket.
My guess is that his percentage on throws in the pocket isn't nearly as impressive, and it's based more on the fact that he throws an unusually high percentage of his passes from outside the pocket and on the run.
And I agree - that is his game, although I think as he matures he will find that he shouldn't be as quick to scramble and stray from the pocket - that improvisation shouldn't be as close to the norm as it has been with him.
I also agree that your pictures don't really prove anything. He doesn't throw overhadn the way most QB's do - that's not a question for anyone, and logic tell us that a QB who throws more overhand has a higher release point than one who throws 3/4 - and Romo even dips to almost sidearm at times.
STILL - don't take this the wrong way. I'm not saying this is a huge problem that will plague Romo's career. I think he has pretty good instincts and will pull the ball down when he feels a pass could get blocked. I think once in a while this will pop up on individual plays, just as every QB, including the elite ones, have things that can be problems for them on ocassion.