Romo's Play

[theogt]

They were not flukes. He threw a medicine ball to Miles and it ended up intercepted. He throws that ball a bit lower and Miles probably makes the play. He threw a ball behind and high to Witten. Witten is not going to make that catch. Those are not flukes. As I said earlier, Romo threw two balls last week that probably should have been INTs as well. You can just as easily say that it was a fluke that those were not caught.

There's not a soul on earth you're going to win over with this argument.

 

[Vintage]

You get no argument from me. I don't expect every pass to be perfect but I do think for the most part Romo has been accurate with his passes. Frankly the one pass that I saw and disappointed in was the swing pass to Choice. With Choice one on one with a LB and no one helping a good pass could have resulted in an easy TD for Dallas. Believe me I don't think Romo play is the reason we are struggling

I know. And I wasn't trying to suggest or imply you think Romo is the reason we are struggling. I was just taking the point you made and going a bit further with it.

And I agree; I think the swing pass to Choice was a far worse throw than the one to Witten. That's a pass he needs to make. That's a pass that he threw that was really off. The Witten one? Whatever. I'm not too upset with that throw for the already stated reasons. The Choice one? That one needed to be a much better throw.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

When you throw the ball 50 times a game, some of your throws are going to be off.

Hell, when you throw the ball 20 times a game, you are still going to have some that get away from you.

Romo didn't throw that great of a ball to Witten. Yet... the ball still hit Witten. I guess we can blame Romo for not throwing a perfect ball there, and yes, Romo can easily throw a better ball than that particular throw... but its not like he overthrew it by 5 yards and was picked. It hit Witten. He was off. But not "omgwthbbq" off.

Its just symptomatic of the offense in general; everything is a little off in the timing.

And seeing how often Romo has to line up people pre-snap.... I wonder if the problem is moreso the routes being run than anything.... Because when you watch Romo throw to Austin, almost everything is crisp.

If you watch that play again, the one with Witten, you will see that he had an open man, a bit more to the center of the field and he was wide open. Witten was the focus of the defense on that play. Had Romo gone to the open guy, we wouldn't be having this discussion. It wouldn't have mattered if it was slightly behind or what because there was nobody around the guy, even if the ball came off his pads. This is really more to the point. I think that Romo can take pressure off himself by just taking what the defense is giving and by Garrett taking pressure off Romo and using our running game for something other then blitz pickup. Heck, even if you wanted to stay with the kind of offense we have been running for the past few weeks, you couldn't. Romo will not last the season if you continue to throw the ball this much. If he doesn't get hurt, which he eventually will, his arm would be gone by week 10. We just need to be smarter with our game plan. Allow the game to come to us and play smart field position football. Let our Defense make plays for us. Let the offense flow and the players will perform. That is my opinion.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Miles needs to hold onto balls that he catches. Period. I'm not blaming the INTs on the receivers. The bounces are just bad breaks.

Miles is having a better season, right now, then is Romo. How can you look at Romo and say you can't complain about his play and then turn around and complain about Miles?

Miles should have caught the ball but that's easier said then done when your getting drilled by a DB on a high throw and your unprotected. That ball should have been lower. The deflection is a result of where the ball was thrown, more so then Miles dropping the pass.

 

[vlad]

When he first came up, Parcells harped on two things with him. 1) make smart plays and 2) get rid of the ball quickly. That's, what I believe he did under Parcells and I think he was pretty darn good at it.

Yeah, agree...and obviously he's progressed, but I just wonder if we're hamstringing him too much. To be honest, in the end I just think its our O-line. I can't believe how bad they are. haha.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's not a soul on earth you're going to win over with this argument.

I'm not trying to "Win" anybody over. I'm simply telling the truth.

 

[Vintage]

Miles is having a better season, right now, then is Romo. How can you look at Romo and say you can't complain about his play and then turn around and complain about Miles?

Miles should have caught the ball but that's easier said then done when your getting drilled by a DB on a high throw and your unprotected. That ball should have been lower. The deflection is a result of where the ball was thrown, more so then Miles dropping the pass.

There is a difference between criticizing how a player is playing.... and criticizing a play made by a player.

The former being how a player is performing overall.

The latter being on a specific play.

 

[vlad]

Nick Saban wanted Jason Garrett to be his offensive coordinator at Alabama, but he would never allowed Garrett to throw 47 passes in Washington or 51 against the Bears. That is a fact.

There is too much pressure on Tony Romo to carry this version of this offense.

I have done some computations on Tony Romo's passing attempts in a game and Dallas' corresponding record. This is unofficial, but it should be real close to being accurate. I have Romo down for 1,955 pass attempts for his career, and I have him playing 61 games. I have included his 4 playoff games. Tony Romo has averaged 32.0 pass attempts per game during his career.

Here is what I found out. Some say that "it doesn't matter how often" Romo attempts a pass in a game, but my stats show otherwise.


35 or more: Dallas is 10-14 (W-L)
40 or more: Dallas is 3-6
50 or more: Dallas is 1-2

It should be no surprise that Dallas is 0-2. The offense has just jacked up 47 and 51 pass attempts, respectively. Dallas is 4-8 when Tony Romo attempts between 40-50+ passes in a game.

32 or less: Dallas is 21-6
33 or less: Dallas is 23-7
34 or less: Dallas is 29-7

When Tony Romo has to pass at least 35 times in a game, you are headed for trouble. However, when Tony Romo attempts 34 or less passes in a game, Dallas is a whopping 29-7.

Is it asking too much to get this quarterback a running game?

Getting Felix Jones in space and getting him some running room or running lanes would help out and help a bunch. It might be a good idea to get
Felix Jones the ball in space in the plus territory of the football field.

If you want to pound it, get Marion Barber the ball.

I would bench Tashard Choice.

Just get your quarterback a running game.....

Nice. O-line can't block Trinity High school, but nice.

 

[SDCowboy]

Miles is having a better season, right now, then is Romo. How can you look at Romo and say you can't complain about his play and then turn around and complain about Miles?

Miles should have caught the ball but that's easier said then done when your getting drilled by a DB on a high throw and your unprotected. That ball should have been lower. The deflection is a result of where the ball was thrown, more so then Miles dropping the pass.

Again, I'm not blaming the INT on Miles or Witten.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There is a difference between criticizing how a player is playing.... and criticizing a play made by a player.

The former being how a player is performing overall.

The latter being on a specific play.

OK, so the why then the criticism of Miles and dropping the ball and not the fact that Romo threw the ball high in a crowed and exposed his WR? I'm not trying to say that every pass should be perfect. What I am saying is that both of those INTs were well deserved by Romo. Miles should have caught that ball but if the ball were lower, there is no question in my mind that the ball would have been caught. If you throw 50 times a game, odds are that your going to throw picks. Everybody knows that in the NFL, the most reliable stat out there are the turnover stats with regards to wins. What is Tony's INT ratio? Do the math and that will tell you why this business of throwing 50 times a game is not a good idea.

 

[SDCowboy]

OK, so the why then the criticism of Miles and dropping the ball and not the fact that Romo threw the ball high in a crowed and exposed his WR? I'm not trying to say that every pass should be perfect. What I am saying is that both of those INTs were well deserved by Romo. Miles should have caught that ball but if the ball were lower, there is no question in my mind that the ball would have been caught. If you throw 50 times a game, odds are that your going to throw picks. Everybody knows that in the NFL, the most reliable stat out there are the turnover stats with regards to wins. What is Tony's INT ratio? Do the math and that will tell you why this business of throwing 50 times a game is not a good idea.

If throwing the ball high and making the receiver jump for it is deserving of an INT, then Breese and Rivers deserve about 10 INTs a game. Not every ball is going to keep a receiver grounded.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Again, I'm not blaming the INT on Miles or Witten.

OK. I understand that. I think that if you read through my posts, I'm not being overly critical of Tony. I understand his strengths and weaknesses. He is not calling the game so it's hard to fault him for the number of times he's throwing the ball. I do think that he is not playing within himself. I do think that he is forcing the issue. I do think that he is feeling the pressure, like everybody, to win. I just think that we are good enough to win without putting this pressure on the team. This is what I want to see. I want Garrett to stop with this heavily oriented passing offense and allow for balance in the offense. Even if the running game doesn't produce 4.7 but maybe only 3.0 or 3.5, I want that in the offense and I want at least a 60/40 mix. I want Romo throwing between 25 and 30 times a game. We continue to do what we are doing and we are going to get this poor kid killed.

 

[smoovb]

He's pretty consistent. Always above 90% in QB rating. Last year he was really good. Lots of completions. Lowest number of interceptions.

You bring up a great point. Maybe he hasn't reached his peak yet. Maybe a QB coach would give that extra nudge of greatness.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If throwing the ball high and making the receiver jump for it is deserving of an INT, then Breese and Rivers deserve about 10 INTs a game. Not every ball is going to keep a receiver grounded.

If you want to expose the WRs and open them up to injury and Turn Overs, then I guess your correct. It's fine to do this. I'm saying that the interception was a direct result of throwing that ball high and allowing three defenders to take shots at Austin. We can run in circles on this all day but the bottom line is that the play resulted in a turn over. It was not a fluke. It happened because of the placement of the pass.

 

[SDCowboy]

If you want to expose the WRs and open them up to injury and Turn Overs, then I guess your correct. It's fine to do this. I'm saying that the interception was a direct result of throwing that ball high and allowing three defenders to take shots at Austin. We can run in circles on this all day but the bottom line is that the play resulted in a turn over. It was not a fluke. It happened because of the placement of the pass.

I love the double standard. People demand Romo start throwing up balls and letting the receivers go up and get it and to make a play. Romo does that, Austin goes up and DOES get it but when the ball is hit loose, it's romo's fault. So which is it? Should Romo throw it up form time to time like every asks him to do or not? It seems to get lost that Miles fully caught the ball and had full control over it before he was hit. It wasn't some crazy pass.

 

[TNCowboy]

Romo is off. I think a lot more than most of us are willing to admit. I watch Manning or Rogers throw the ball and hit their WRs in stride, and then contrast that with Romo, and there really is no comparison. Like the throw to Choice. Or the quick throw to Roy Williams Sunday. Both relatively short passes, and Romo missed badly on both. Just as he did on the throw to Witten that was picked. He just isn't sharp. He could have some nagging injury that he's kept to himself.

The positive spin, I guess, is that Romo isn't alone. Tom Brady is clearly still not the player he was before his injury. Drew Brees hasn't been overly sharp in his 2 games. I expect both those guys will turn it around and Romo will as well. But IMO, if he plays the rest of the season the way he played the first two weeks, it's going to be a very long season.

 

[Doomsday101]

If you want to expose the WRs and open them up to injury and Turn Overs, then I guess your correct. It's fine to do this. I'm saying that the interception was a direct result of throwing that ball high and allowing three defenders to take shots at Austin. We can run in circles on this all day but the bottom line is that the play resulted in a turn over. It was not a fluke. It happened because of the placement of the pass.

But WR around the league make those catches as does Austin expect he did not in this case. Austin also dropped a perfect pass on a slant with room to run had he held on to it. All in all Austin did a lot of good things but like most of the players including Romo it is the one or 2 plays we are missing on that can change a game. I'm clearly not looking to put our woes on one guy when I see alot of guys even those who are making big plays missing plays that can be the differance of winning and losing

 

[Doomsday101]

Romo is off. I think a lot more than most of us are willing to admit. I watch Manning or Rogers throw the ball and hit their WRs in stride, and then contrast that with Romo, and there really is no comparison. Like the throw to Choice. Or the quick throw to Roy Williams Sunday. Both relatively short passes, and Romo missed badly on both. Just as he did on the throw to Witten that was picked. He just isn't sharp. He could have some nagging injury that he's kept to himself.

The positive spin, I guess, is that Romo isn't alone. Tom Brady is clearly still not the player he was before his injury. Drew Brees hasn't been overly sharp in his 2 games. I expect both those guys will turn it around and Romo will as well. But IMO, if he plays the rest of the season the way he played the first two weeks, it's going to be a very long season.

I also see their WR making acobatic catches not all of their passes are perfect sometime the WR has to go out and make the play. This is not about protecting Romo but it seems Romo is asked to throw the perfect pass all the time and yet no one else in the league including manning throws perfect passes all the time

 

[ddh33]

I can come up with a very long list of things that are wrong with this team.

If I had to number them from 1-60 in order of importance, and included the coaches, ownership, and everything else...

Romo would be standing somewhere between 55 and 60. He isn't even close to being the big problem.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I love the double standard. People demand Romo start throwing up balls and letting the receivers go up and get it and to make a play. Romo does that, Austin goes up and DOES get it but when the ball is hit loose, it's romo's fault. So which is it? Should Romo throw it up form time to time like every asks him to do or not? It seems to get lost that Miles fully caught the ball and had full control over it before he was hit. It wasn't some crazy pass.

I guess you should probably address this with the people who are calling for it. I don't ever think it's a good idea to throw the ball up high in the middle of the field. I don't have a problem with it on the sideline because you can place it in such a way as to make sure YOUR receiver has the best possible advantage. Never in the middle of the field. When I was a kid, I loved to see the ball thrown high to the middle of the field. I know that it was an opportunity to create a TO or hit somebody hard enough to effect their game.

To answer your question, go find those who you claim are calling for this kind of play and address that question with them. You will not find a post, from me, that is calling for this. Next question please.