Romo's Play

[theogt]

Pick your play and lets discuss it. However, if you would rather not do this, and you feel as if you are worse off for having participated, then by all means, see yourself out. I will not be offended.

There's nothing to discuss. The facts are on the table. Your analysis is on the table.

All that's left is to laugh.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Considering we have not had a 4th qrt lead this year let alone a halftime lead in either game I'm not sure running the clock down is something we want to do. I want to run the ball especially when we get around the redzone in the Bears game we did that and then play actioned and hit Gronk for the easy TD I would like to see more of that but I don't see us at this point and time as a team who is just going to pound out drives running the ball alot. I still want to see a mixture of run when moving from the 20 to the 20 but a big part of our offense is going to take place in the passing game

I think a 60 40 split is a decent mix. In the case of the Washington Game, I feel like with a beat up line, the way Barron was having trouble with pass protection and how close we were throughout that game, we should have ran the ball on them. Skinz are not a great rush defense. They are giving up 3.5 per rush. Against Chicago, they are pretty dang good against the run but I believe you have to keep that defense honest or they will swarm the receivers and that's not a good thing.

I am with you on the whole. I think it needs to be in the area of 60-40, give or take.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's nothing to discuss. The facts are on the table. Your analysis is on the table.

All that's left is to laugh.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010091905/2010/REG2/bears@cowboys#tab:watch

Here's the play. Please, have a good laugh for us all.

 

[28 Joker]

You simply cannot and will not win in the NFL if you are jacking up 49 passes per game. You can try, but you will not win. NFL coaches and analysts will tell you the same thing. Too many bad things can happen. Eventually, the other team is going to get their hands on the ball when it's up in the air that often. Sacks, penalties, and negative plays will occur, especially against good defenses.

Plus, you need to look at the statistics (Romo's attempts in a game) which correlate with Dallas winning games.

Dallas is 0-2 this year.

Dallas is 10-14 when Tony Romo attempts 35 or more passes in a game.

Dallas is 3-6 when Tony Romo attempts 40 or more passes in a game.

Dallas is 1-2 when Tony Romo attempts 50 or more passes in a game.

Dallas has attempted 98 passes in two games (47 and 51).

Dallas is 0-2 right now.

If you want to win football games, you better get his attempts down to 34 or less. That means finding your running game and screen game and the endzone.

That lone 50+ attempt win was in Buffalo, and it took Newman's pick and Folk's boot to pull off a miracle. The quarterback was intercepted 5 times in that game.

Tony Romo has attempted 32 passes per game in his career.

This year he is averaging 49 pass attempts per game.

There is no excuse for this. Zero. The running game was working in Washington. Yet, it was abandoned. It is on the coaches to fix this mess and the players to execute. I question the offensive coordinator's commitment to the run, because Washington wasn't the first time that it has been abandoned.

There is simply too much pressure on Romo in this offense.

Dallas' win/loss record shows that when Tony Romo attempts 35 times or more, you are headed for trouble. When you get into the 40-50+ range (for pass attempts), you are really headed for trouble.

Why can't Phillips and Garrett get this simple, basic, fundamental fact?

They should know these statistics.

I checked my calculations multiple times, and I think these stats are accurate. I didn't have the luxury of having someone double check my calculations, but I'm confident in them. I was careful and checked and rechecked and rechecked and rechecked.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Romo is at his best when he can throw intermediate length pass patterns, sprinkle in some deep stuff and then check down to some short stuff. He also works best when he can roll out and throw or even better, when he gets to step up into the pocket and fire. Instead we've become a short pass offense that doesn't scare anybody deep.



YR

I agree with you on this. Romo is best when he is allowed to do what he is best at and that is rollouts and moving around in the pocket. He has a real nice ball in that 7 to 20 yard range. I don't know what happened to all the rollouts, they just disappeared and that is wierd because he does so well on the run.

 

[theogt]

If you think this INT is on Romo, you (i) are blind, (ii) have no idea what you're looking at, (iii) are bat-**** crazy, or (iv) all of the above.

The coverage is your most basic Cover 2. It's what the Bears do. Two deep safeties and then five defenders in zone coverage underneath. Even a 5 year old should know this coverage. Miles is supposed to run an out route that puts him just behind the underneath coverage. Tony knows this, knows what the Bears are doing, and knows he has one option -- throw the ball a little high and to the outside to get over (and between) the underneath coverage. He hits Miles right in the hands -- high and outside. It's a catch. Mission accomplished by Romo. Whoops!

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[28 Joker]

Dallas is 4-8 when Tony Romo attempts between 40-50+ passes.

I don't know why I added his 50+ attempts (1-2) to his 40+ attempts (3-6) and came up with a 4-8 record.

I counted his 50+ attempts twice when I did the 4-8 stat. I'm glad that I caught that.

You can disregard that stat.

However, I'm very confident in the numbers and stats that I came up with.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If you think this INT is on Romo, you (i) are blind, (ii) have no idea what you're looking at, (iii) are bat-**** crazy, or (iv) all of the above.

The coverage is your most basic Cover 2. It's what the Bears do. Two deep safeties and then five defenders in zone coverage underneath. Even a 5 year old should know this coverage. Miles is supposed to run an out route that puts him just behind the underneath coverage. Tony knows this, knows what the Bears are doing, and knows he has one option -- throw the ball a little high and to the outside to get over (and between) the underneath coverage. He hits Miles right in the hands -- high and outside. It's a catch. Mission accomplished by Romo. Whoops!

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Apparently, I and many of the people who watched the play live. Like always, you leave out the detail. Post the hit Miles takes for going up and catching that ball.

 

[SDCowboy]

Apparently, I and many of the people who watched the play live. Like always, you leave out the detail. Post the hit Miles takes for going up and catching that ball.

Yep receivers tend to get hit after catching the ball. Good eye. :laugh2:

 

[theogt]

Apparently, I and many of the people who watched the play live. Like always, you leave out the detail. Post the hit Miles takes for going up and catching that ball.

Miles Austin got hit after making the catch? NO WAI!!!!111

What is this? Football?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Here is the link to the Witten Interception.

Tell me that's a good pass and how it's all Witten's fault as well.

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[ANTHONYSCOTT]

Flat out sucks to this point!! No question...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yep receivers tend to get hit after catching the ball. Good eye. :laugh2:

Answer the question. Was it a good throw?

 

[SDCowboy]

Here is the link to the Witten Interception.

Tell me that's a good pass and how it's all Witten's fault as well.

It wasn't a good pass nor was it Wittens fault. It doesn't change the fact that it was bad luck that Witten stuck his hand back the ball bounced off it right into the defender.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Miles Austin got hit after making the catch? NO WAI!!!!111

What is this? Football?

So then, you too think it was a good throw?

 

[theogt]

Here is the link to the Witten Interception.

Tell me that's a good pass and how it's all Witten's fault as well.

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You mean the pass that nearly hit Witten in the face?

So then, you too think it was a good throw?

Yes. And I get that you don't and I get that you don't have a clue what you're looking at, what the route was, what the coverage was, and why it was thrown the way it was. Trust me, I get that you don't know.

 

[Doomsday101]

Here is the link to the Witten Interception.

Tell me that's a good pass and how it's all Witten's fault as well.

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I think the ball just got there a spilt second before Witten was ready for it. Yes it was a bit behind him but that is a catch Witten will make.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It wasn't a good pass nor was it Wittens fault. It doesn't change the fact that it was bad luck that Witten stuck his hand back the ball bounced off it right into the defender.

The point that I am trying to make here is that Romo is not playing great football and those INTs were not flukes. I'm not trying to say that he has to play perfect. That's not realistic but I do believe that both of those INTs were the result of ball placement. The guys in the other uniforms get paid, practice and are expected to make plays also. I don't think you can say it was a fluke. Neither play, IMO, were good plays by Romo. Both plays could have been made if the ball was thrown accurately. I'm a Cowboy fan. I like Romo and I want him to do well but I can't say it is all on these other guys or that it was just luck. Neither pass was a good one IMO.

 

[SDCowboy]

The point that I am trying to make here is that Romo is not playing great football and those INTs were not flukes. I'm not trying to say that he has to play perfect. That's not realistic but I do believe that both of those INTs were the result of ball placement. The guys in the other uniforms get paid, practice and are expected to make plays also. I don't think you can say it was a fluke. Neither play, IMO, were good plays by Romo. Both plays could have been made if the ball was thrown accurately. I'm a Cowboy fan. I like Romo and I want him to do well but I can't say it is all on these other guys or that it was just luck. Neither pass was a good one IMO.

Whatever, I'm not going to argue about it anymore. If miles doesn't need to hold onto the ball and it bouncing of a receivers hand are Romo's fault to you then whatever.

 

[aikemirv]

Here is the link to the Witten Interception.

Tell me that's a good pass and how it's all Witten's fault as well.

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Where was the CB/S coming from?

What was Witten Supposed to do? He did not sit down but he rolled to Romo's left towards the S/CB. It looks to me he should have sat down on the route. Did Romo read the coverage right and throw it inside to avoid the hit that Miles took which you also say is Romo's fault. You can't have it both ways ABQ.

It's football and Miles has to take the hit and hold onto the ball. Witten, I don't know but that does not look to me like it is ALL on Romo.