Romo's public perception level is entering Delhomme levels

[iceberg]

That hole not deep enough yet, huh?

there was a word for what he is doing we used to be able to use.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

what?

Jim Kelly?

He led a game winning Superbowl drive only to have his kicker miss in maybe the best superbowl game ever played.

played in 4 super bowls.

Holy cow.

he's posting for pure reaction. we just can't call him by name anymore cause it could be "offensive".

That hole not deep enough yet, huh?

there was a word for what he is doing we used to be able to use.

Choke Artist not Busts, talking the big games, the important times.

Jim Kelly lost 4 SBs. In his four Super Bowls, Kelly completed 81 of 145 passes for 829 yards and 2 touchdowns, with 7 interceptions.

 

[Idgit]

there was a word for what he is doing we used to be able to use.

You can use the word 'troll' around me, as long as you use it nicely and not to personally attack or insult somebody. As far as I'm concerned, it's a fishing metaphor.

That said, hopefully we're all able to disagree with people who troll for reactions without letting the threads devolve into finger-pointing exercises. That's the reason the threads end up having to be moderated, and we all understand that, I think. At least I hope.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

You can use the word 'troll' around me, as long as you use it nicely and not to personally attack or insult somebody. As far as I'm concerned, it's a fishing metaphor.

That said, hopefully we're all able to disagree with people who troll for reactions without letting the threads devolve into finger-pointing exercises. That's the reason the threads end up having to be moderated, and we all understand that, I think. At least I hope.

I understand.


"That hole not deep enough yet, huh?"




when you point a finger three point back

 

[iceberg]

You can use the word 'troll' around me, as long as you use it nicely and not to personally attack or insult somebody. As far as I'm concerned, it's a fishing metaphor.

That said, hopefully we're all able to disagree with people who troll for reactions without letting the threads devolve into finger-pointing exercises. That's the reason the threads end up having to be moderated, and we all understand that, I think. At least I hope.

the problem is i can't use it across the board to describe what someone is doing.

i'll leave it at that.

 

[iceberg]

I understand.

"That hole not deep enough yet, huh?"



when you point a finger three point back

and you've been pointing at romo for an awful long time.

with 3 fingers pointing back.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Romo is a talent but he also is what he is. So was Jim Kelly. At least up to this point Tony has to prove otherwise, hopefully he can and will.

 

[Idgit]

I understand.


"That hole not deep enough yet, huh?"




when you point a finger three point back

Not sure what point you're trying to make. I think your argument in this thread is just awful. And I think you're making the hole deeper for yourself in trying to pull in Jim Kelly. Was that not clear? Or do you just think for some reason I'm not allowed to hold that opinion?

 

[iceberg]

Not sure what point you're trying to make. I think your argument in this thread is just awful. And I think you're making the hole deeper for yourself in trying to pull in Jim Kelly. Was that not clear? Or do you just think for some reason I'm not allowed to hold that opinion?

he's trolling. if saying so gets me in trouble, that's what he's doing.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Was that not clear? Or do you just think for some reason I'm not allowed to hold that opinion?

No, I have made a good argument about Kelly. Why didn't you refute that statement... Am I allowed to hold an opinion?

he's trolling. if saying so gets me in trouble, that's what he's doing.

You're just miserable.

 

[iceberg]

No, Am I?

You're just miserable.

and you say some incredibly stupid stuff. i'm ok with getting personal if you are. PM me.

 

[Idgit]

the problem is i can't use it across the board to describe what someone is doing.

i'll leave it at that.

The problem is that actually people weren't able to refer to an act of trolling without also letting the conversation devolve into acrimonious name-calling. And then they don't like it when we ask them to stop or enforce it when it gets out of control.

It's possible to disagree with people who are wrong on the internet without letting the posts get personal and having them spill from one thread or topic to another. Some folks aren't as good at managing boundaries, though, and can't help but let things get personal and stay personal. That creates a ton of extra work, which then leads to things like 'troll' references getting deleted, at which point people cry 'censorship.' Boo hoo. I've got better things do to with my evenings than spending them explaining why grown men shouldn't engage in slap fighting.

That's not directed at you, personally, or at any particular exchange. It's just my explanation for why I don't have a ton of sympathy for what happens when certain terms become unpopular and end up getting moderated. I've gotten my share of infractions for not playing nicely enough in my day, so I've been on both sides of that particular fence. The odd infraction here and there can be invigorating if it doesn't end up in an unwanted vacation.

But, yeah. I don't want to invite questioning of the board's moderation, so you're probably right that we should just leave the topic as it is from here.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

and you say some incredibly stupid stuff. i'm ok with getting personal if you are. PM me.

lol yeh rite and no, thanks anyway

 

[iceberg]

The problem is that actually people weren't able to refer to an act of trolling without also letting the conversation devolve into acrimonious name-calling. And then they don't like it when we ask them to stop or enforce it when it gets out of control.

It's possible to disagree with people who are wrong on the internet without letting the posts get personal and having them spill from one thread or topic to another. Some folks aren't as good at managing boundaries, though, and can't help but let things get personal and stay personal. That creates a ton of extra work, which then leads to things like 'troll' references getting deleted, at which point people cry 'censorship.' Boo hoo. I've got better things do to with my evenings than spending them explaining why grown men shouldn't engage in slap fighting.

That's not directed at you, personally, or at any particular exchange. It's just my explanation for why I don't have a ton of sympathy for what happens when certain terms become unpopular and end up getting moderated. I've gotten my share of infractions for not playing nicely enough in my day, so I've been on both sides of that particular fence. The odd infraction here and there can be invigorating if it doesn't end up in an unwanted vacation.

But, yeah. I don't want to invite questioning of the board's moderation, so you're probably right that we should just leave the topic as it is from here.

agreed. not my goal but it's a thin line i think many of us need to step back and look at.

just cause someone whines, doesn't mean they deserve more than a pacifier.

 

[iceberg]

lol yeh rite and no, thanks anyway

i didn't think so.

night, john boy.

 

[Idgit]

No, I have made a good argument about Kelly. Why didn't you refute that statement... Am I allowed to hold an opinion?

What makes you think I think you're not entitled to a wrong opinion? Knock yourself out.

I didn't refute it because it's just not an argument I particularly wanted to engage in. Jim Kelly was a very good QB, and I don't feel like engaging with someone who doesn't believe that. There'd be very little point.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The problem is that actually people weren't able to refer to an act of trolling without also letting the conversation devolve into acrimonious name-calling.

Jim Kelly is one of the most common names that come up for all time NFL choke artist.


Name another. Help me out here, who is a worse Choke Artist. Correct my supposed misinformation with a good/decent example.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

What makes you think I think you're not entitled to a wrong opinion? Knock yourself out.

I didn't refute it because it's just not an argument I particularly wanted to engage in. Jim Kelly was a very good QB, and I don't feel like engaging with someone who doesn't believe that. There'd be very little point.

Not saying he or Romo are/were bad QBs. Never said that.

BTW, I think you are a great Mod. Thanks

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

romo has never made it to a superbowl. many would just love to see him win a game that advances us and the label fades.

If he makes a Bowl and loses will it matter.

 

[DFWJC]

If he makes a Bowl and loses will it matter.

Hopeless
I really don't think you even know what choking is. You seem to think its the same as losing....or maybe having a bad game in a losing effort.
You do understand that only one team can win in the playoffs. Someone has to lose.