Romo's Stats Throwing to T.O.

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DallasEast;2841640 said:
umm... did you mean Holland or Proctor because Holland didn't participate very much last season.. :confused:

regardless of what he meant, Holland or Kosier != Procter. Ever.
 

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casmith07;2841646 said:
regardless of what he meant, Holland or Kosier != Procter. Ever.
True, but it's reasonable to point out that some of the offensive line's cohesiveness disappeared after Kosier's injury. Holland played well for a very limited time before his injury sidelined him. As you've pointed out, Procter wasn't the best replacement for Kosier and it had a visible effect on Romo's pass protection. With Kosier, Romo's protection should thus improve.
 
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grogan6314;2841434 said:
The most telling stat and the reason I'm glad he's gone, completion percentage. Romo was 69-140 when throwing to T.O. Not even 50%. That just tells how many balls were forced to him. I think our offense this year will be far less predictable, and will lead to improvement over last year.


You have no idea what you are talking about.

1) Firecrotch is still calling the plays so EXPECT MORE DELAYED HANDOFF'S:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

2) Taking our most explosive player on the field , for the sake of Tony growing a pair, somehow equates to improvement?
 

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I think Owens and Quinn would be perfect for each other .....

They could take a bunch of pictures of themselves with their shirts off for the quinn trolls enjoyment.
 

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I would love to see Felix get everyone of T.O.'s touches.

GGGGGO greased lightning burning up the quarter mile.............
 

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DallasEast;2841630 said:
Kangaroo clearly explained why Romo threw to Witten in tight spots.

If the offensive line can remain relatively healthy this season (in particularly Kosier) and you still believe that it would be the same as in '08, well... you keep believing that and we'll both see what Romo's quarterback rating will be at season's end, won't we? :)

Kind of Like Aikman went to Jay in those type situations too
 

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Kangaroo;2841840 said:
Kind of Like Aikman went to Jay in those type situations too
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Now, someone may say that Roy E. Williams is neither Michael Irvin nor Terrell Owens. Of course, the flaw in that observation is that Williams doesn't have to be either. He only needs to stay healthy. He and the rest of the offensive weapons are more than enough to make this offense very productive.
 

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BIGDen;2841600 said:
Who the hell do you think you are coming in here and making solid, logical statements?!
Thank you for writing something legit and not doing as most opposing fans do (trash talking etc.).
I totally agree with your statement. I believe this will not be the kind of offense that defenses can shut down but keying on one or two players.

I see no point in coming here to trash talk. That would benefit no one.

While I agree with many of the above statements, I think that TO's departure will lead Dallas to be more of a run-first, ball control team. If this plan works out, it could be of great benefit to the Dallas defense.
 

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DallasEast;2841970 said:
Now, someone may say that Roy E. Williams is neither Michael Irvin nor Terrell Owens.


Perhaps they will ......

But I will counter with the fact that Jay was no Witten either.
 

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Sammy Baugh;2841972 said:
I see no point in coming here to trash talk. That would benefit no one.

While I agree with many of the above statements, I think that TO's departure will lead Dallas to be more of a run-first, ball control team. If this plan works out, it could be of great benefit to the Dallas defense.

I'm guessing the Cowboys will be better in 2009 for these reasons:

1) They'll probably have fewer injuries and now have better depth to deal with the injuries they will get.

2) They had a great 2008 draft and these now 2nd year players will have a much greater impact than they had in thier rookie seasons: Jones, Jenkins, Scandrick and Bennett.

3) Upgarde at SS with Sensabaugh. Roy's been killing us for ever. Sensabaugh may never smell a probowl, but he looks to be a significant upgarde for us.

Releasing Owens will not help this team in 2009. We may very well win the whole thing. And if that happens people will credit cutting Owens and Pacman far more than they should.

Now with that said, I do think we will be better in 2010 and 2011 than we would've been had we kept Owens for 2009. The 20 million of Cap dollars he would have cost us in those years will be much better spent.
 

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Anyone have Romo's QB rating while throwing to T.O.?

And other receivers...

also lets not forget that T.O. drew double coverage.
 

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zrinkill;2841984 said:
Perhaps they will ......

But I will counter with the fact that Jay was no Witten either.

While I agree that overall Witten is a better football player than Novacek was, don't sell Jay short, he was an outstanding TE who was always in the right place at the right time.

I remember a play when Aikman was blitzed and had no time to throw but he just tossed the ball over the defenders and somehow right into Novacek's hands. When he was asked afterwards how he was able to see Novacek through all that he said that he didn't see him, he just KNEW where Jay would be because he is always where he is supposed to be. You can't get a better compliment from a QB than that!

Aikman's accuracy was aided by receivers who ran the routes they were supposed to run and didn't improvise much. I'm hoping Romo will gain that advantage as well with the guys we have now.

Witten is that kind of guy for Tony which is why Romo relies on him so much. As a QB you have to have guys who will be where they are supposed to be.
 

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Galian Beast;2841995 said:
Anyone have Romo's QB rating while throwing to T.O.?

And other receivers...

also lets not forget that T.O. drew double coverage.

You mean like Shaw Springs was double covering Owens with Himself :blind:
 

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Kangaroo;2842091 said:
You mean like Shaw Springs was double covering Owens with Himself :blind:




So, when Owens torches Springs like he pretty much always does when he plays against him except for this one time Cowboy fans love to bring up then what? He is going to see a whole lot of 81 on September 14th. Believe that
 

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AdamJT13;2841490 said:
Romo was 57-for-115 (49.6 percent) throwing to Owens.

Johnson and Bollinger were a combined 12-for-25 (48.0 percent).

But completion percentage isn't nearly as important as yards per attempt. Romo averaged 9.3 yards per attempt when throwing to Owens, which is excellent (the same as what the Cardinals averaged when throwing to Larry Fitzgerald and the Texans averaged when throwing to Andre Johnson).

Johnson and Bollinger averaged 4.0 when throwing to Owens.

Yeah, it's losing that 9.3 ypa that scares me about this offense.
 

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THUMPER;2842005 said:
While I agree that overall Witten is a better football player than Novacek was, don't sell Jay short, he was an outstanding TE who was always in the right place at the right time.

I remember a play when Aikman was blitzed and had no time to throw but he just tossed the ball over the defenders and somehow right into Novacek's hands. When he was asked afterwards how he was able to see Novacek through all that he said that he didn't see him, he just KNEW where Jay would be because he is always where he is supposed to be. You can't get a better compliment from a QB than that!

Aikman's accuracy was aided by receivers who ran the routes they were supposed to run and didn't improvise much. I'm hoping Romo will gain that advantage as well with the guys we have now.

Witten is that kind of guy for Tony which is why Romo relies on him so much. As a QB you have to have guys who will be where they are supposed to be.

I agree wholeheartedly. The monkey wrench I'll throw into the equation, though, is the fact Romo is also a QB who loves to improvise much more than Aikman ever thought about doing. While Owens' freelancing at times worked against Romo, he was also the best at taking a broken play to the house for Romo's benefit. Can Roy Williams do this?

Side topic, but it's one reason why I don't expect much from Owens, unless my perception of Trent Edwards is off the mark (I'll admit I haven't seen much of him). Some of Owens' biggest plays come when they're not scripted, and Garcia, McNabb and Romo were able to deliver on those. Bledsoe most certainly could not. Can Edwards roll around and help give Owens a chance to make something of nothing?
 

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MichaelWinicki;2842330 said:
Yeah, it's losing that 9.3 ypa that scares me about this offense.

Yep ... my biggest fear without T.O. is that we'll be sitting here in Week 5 asking, "Where the heck have our big plays gone?" Oh, I realize Felix is capable of making them, but I'm talking about in the passing game. Witten isn't really a "big play" guy. Crayton's not a guy who stretches the field. Can Austin actually develop into that role? Will Roy prove to stretch a defense? Are we going to hang this on Martellus?

Remember, we're still pining for a Terry Glenn replacement. Replacing T.O.'s production could prove even tougher.
 

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MichaelWinicki;2842330 said:
Yeah, it's losing that 9.3 ypa that scares me about this offense.

Amazing how no anti-TO posters/we're fine with out TO posters, want to touch that stat.

Adam posts some amazing ****, don't he.

You can't replace Owens' impact with an increased focus on the running game. That will not work.

In a modern pro offense, you have 2-3 WRs on the field for just about play.

Those players taking Owens' snaps, (Williams, Crayton and Austin) must play better football than they have to this point. There's really no getting around it.

Crayton is what he is and that's a good but somewhat physically limited player. Little chance for improvement and even less to "replace" Owens' presence on the field.

That has to come from Williams and Austin.

Austin must step up and stay healthy. He must be a legit starting WR and our #1 deep threat. He must make many of the plays down field that Owens made.

Williams is the real key. I hear he's slimmed down and I pray to god that's accurate. He has to improve his quickness and ability to uncover.
He'll bring a few things to the table that Owens didn't as our #1 and that's good. He has a larger catching radius. Uses his body better to get jump balls and has better hands. So he'll present a better red zone target.
But that's not enough.
The most important skill a #1 WR must posses is the ability to uncover. He must command duoble teams in many situations to open things up for everyone else. From what I've seen, it appears Williams lacks the quickness to fill that role. If his quickness has improved even a little, we may be in business.
 
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zrinkill;2841688 said:
I think Owens and Quinn would be perfect for each other .....

They could take a bunch of pictures of themselves with their shirts off for the quinn trolls enjoyment.


Out of shape slugs hate on guys that put in the work.

You fit the stereotype. Go watch cartoon network and keep that hope alive that the WWE is real.
 
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