Romo's Supporting Cast vs Championship QBs

[Hoofbite]

I would say there are multiple variables in play to some extent. Maybe not huge but worth noting.

Brady, Manning and Rodgers likely don't have a rushing offense highly ranked not because their backs are not good but because their passing offenses dominate the hell out of the opposition.

I would wager that these teams are effective at running situationally. I mean, the Patriots had a pretty pedestrian average in YPC but 25 rushing TDs says they got the job done at the goal line.

Doesn't change where Romo falls but it does move some guys around a little above him.

 

[Idgit]

I would say there are multiple variables in play to some extent. Maybe not huge but worth noting.

Brady, Manning and Rodgers likely don't have a rushing offense highly ranked not because their backs are not good but because their passing offenses dominate the hell out of the opposition.

I would wager that these teams are effective at running situationally. I mean, the Patriots had a pretty pedestrian average in YPC but 25 rushing TDs says they got the job done at the goal line.

Doesn't change where Romo falls but it does move some guys around a little above him.

Not sure what basis the rushing offenses are ranked by, but it's been demonstrated numerous times that running effectively doesn't correlate closely to winning. Teams that run effectively have rushing numbers because they run it well. Teams that pass effectively have rushing numbers because they end up playing with a lot of leads. It evens out.

The point of the OP still holds, though, in regards to scoring defense. Not that we really need more evidence that Romo's a very good QB.

 

[Doomsday101]

Which of those guys has a better receiving corps than Romo does right now?

They all pretty much have very good WR cores some could argue better than the Cowboys or at least more proven than the Cowboys

 

[KB1122]

I agree that the Cowboys haven't had great teams for Romo. But the hyperbole around here that the Cowboys have never put together a strong supporting cast is wrong. He has had teams that were strong enough to get to the Super Bowl in 2007 and 2009, at least. Quarterbacks have to take advantage when they have the opportunity. Romo probably hasn't had the opportunity as often as some, but it's not like he hasn't had it.

 

[AKATheRake]

some numbers that show Aaron Rodgers is a bad dude.

Drew Brees and Peyton Manning too.

 

[wileedog]

2 Rings is the difference right??

Missing the point. Romo has 91 career INTs to Eli's 144.

So if it is Romo's "bonehead plays" that are holding us back, how are the Giants winning despite the fact their QB has half again as many of them?

Hint: The answer is in the title of the thread.

 

[blackbull]

Eli, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton seem to be in the same area. This was suppose to absolve romo somehow? Lol. Basically he's not better than the guys listed. Most of is knew this already.

 

[Doomsday101]

Eli, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton seem to be in the same area. This was suppose to absolve romo somehow? Lol. Basically he's not better than the guys listed. Most of is knew this already.

I don't know about absolving but it shows other talent outside of the QB that was critical to go all the way. When NO won the SB they lead in take aways meaning they put the ball back into the hands of their offense. Rodger defense did the same the year they went. Funny thing is as these defense have not been as good lately neither team has been able to advance in post season so either the talent of these QB have deteriorated or something else has taken place like the defense not getting the job done.

In Dallas when have we even been in the top 10 in take aways? If you don't think that matters then I guess we can just put it all on Romo

 

[Idgit]

Eli, Brees, Rodgers and Peyton seem to be in the same area. This was suppose to absolve romo somehow? Lol. Basically he's not better than the guys listed. Most of is knew this already.

How exactly are you reading that data?

And what is it that you think 'absolve' means? There's no need for absolution when you're actually very good at your job.

 

[ufcrules1]

Missing the point. Romo has 91 career INTs to Eli's 144.

So if it is Romo's "bonehead plays" that are holding us back, how are the Giants winning despite the fact their QB has half again as many of them?

Hint: The answer is in the title of the thread.

Maybe it is "when" those interceptions occur?

 

[Idgit]

Maybe it is "when" those interceptions occur?

Exactly. Romo's 91 all happened at the worst possible times. Eli's 144, interestingly enough, were all deep balls on 4th and long, and yielded more yardage than a punt would have, or they were on the very last play of games the Giants won, anyway. That's the great thing about Eli Manning.

 

[Apollo Creed]

This and Percy's latest work should be an Intro course on being a Cowboys fan.

Until you really understand football, will you understand exactly how much is asked of Tony Romo. Not just from an X's and O's - drop back and throw 62 times into a defense that knows you're going to pass perspective.

But also from the perspective that - how many QBs deal with leading the league in penalties year in and year out? How about having the lowest turnover differential in the league every year?

Then factor in the head coaching issues? Essentially handing over the game and precious seconds and minutes late in very important games.

And don't get me started on the front office, utterly refusing to give him quality protection and investing in a running game.

And I challenge anyone - tell me one QB, who has been asked to do so much, with so little.

 

[percyhoward]

That he is. Though the defensive takeaways helped him out, too.

Very good point.

Add to that their tendency to take WR and TE high in the draft and hit on these picks every time.

 

[Idgit]

Very good point.

Add to that their tendency to take WR and TE high in the draft and hit on these picks every time.

Yeah. They're a machine at WR. And Rodgers is amazing. Glad I'm not a Viking fan, because watching those WRs twice a year running downfield with a yard on the coverage and the ball dropped right in their hands every time would just drive me crazy.

 

[percyhoward]

Got the idea from a post by percyhoward who compared to past Cowboys QBs.

Nice work, and I appreciate the tip of the hat.

If you have time, check out the rankings for defensive passer rating and offensive rushing TD. Successful teams usually do one or the other very well.