Roster just has way too many needs!

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Micah, Overshown, Diggs, Bland, and maybe Kneeland.

That’s 4.5 players to build around out of 13 or so needed to have a strong defense. Long way to go…

Offense needs- RB1, LT, G/C, WR2

DT, LB, S, G/C SHOULD all be able to be filled reasonably in free agency. IF our front office signed 4 solid starters at those positions it would give me some slight hope that adding 3 top 75 picks on top would give us a chance with a new coaching staff.

Unfortunately we all know none of that will happen
Not impressed by Diggs
 

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-You are gonna have to hope some young players step up.

- If we cut Steele and Martin retires/is cut, you will like see both Bass and Richards start next year.

- I wouldn't be surprised if they keep Lawrence around for one more. They will have the cap flexibility to be able to do that. Kneeland coming back gangbusters (just wanted to say gang busters) from injury could change that. But I don’t see that. I see a year 3 Armstrong role for him next year.

- DT is pretty much a forced move. They are going to have to make a major move be it trade, FA or draft pick there

- WR is definitely in play in the top 40. A Ridley/ Hollywood Brown (to use 2024 examples)level FA or trade could be possible. We will have cap flexibility

- Like DT, they have pretty much locked themselves into a major move at HB. If Bellicheck is the hire, expect him to prioritize it. Spent a day one on Sony Micheal and has gone to that well often in the top 120. Keep in mind Dowdle is also a FA
Yes, some of our younger players need to make that next step, some others could be off to the roster with a new coaching change.

As I wrote in another thread, it’s laughable looking at the other top team offenses and we have a ps special teamer as our starting rb and an 4th receiver in Tolbert being miscast as a number 2. It’s Giants level talent!

Defensively we have some pieces, but it won’t matter how good we can become against the pass if the just cannot stop the run in any capacity. Our DT group is the worst in football, is as laughable as our offensive weapons outside of Lamb
 

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Yes, some of our younger players need to make that next step, some others could be off to the roster with a new coaching change.

As I wrote in another thread, it’s laughable looking at the other top team offenses and we have a ps special teamer as our starting rb and an 4th receiver in Tolbert being miscast as a number 2. It’s Giants level talent!

Defensively we have some pieces, but it won’t matter how good we can become against the pass if the just cannot stop the run in any capacity. Our DT group is the worst in football, is as laughable as our offensive weapons outside of Lamb
Unfortunately there appears no quick fix. We have been bled for talent over the last 3 years and we havent hit on enough picks in the last two years for make up for inactivity in FA. 2024 looks like it will be successful by most standards, but thats not nearly enough

I think they are really going to have to search for some Robert Quinn type trades
 

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Almost feel like you need to sign 2 DTs and draft 2…not even kidding.
The DL is in rough shape. Need to throw numbers at it. It's not like we have any young guys in development either.

This is is one bad roster, wow.
 

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When you look at all the positional groups, there is a ton of needs across the board:

QB-Dak, Cooper/Lance are both fa's
RB-Dowdle (more of a #3 RB, Cook/Zeke (washed) Need 2 legitimate backs
TE-Ferguson (has struggled this yr), Schoon (bust)
WR-Outside of Lamb, more #3-#5 types
T-Steele looks like a June 1st release, Guyton still developing
G-Martin probably is retiring
DE-DLaw is probably gone, Sam Williams has never taken the next step
DT-Mazi has been a bust, Osa is too undersized and is a fa, no depth outside maybe Golston
MLB-Kendricks won't return, do we even have a true MLB on this roster?
CB-our pro bowl corner Bland, has yet to play 1 snap this yr
S-Both our starting safeties have struggled this yr and are overpaid

Almost a full rebuild is needed!
Full rebuild brother. That 4th round pick trade for Mingo a was idiotic Jerry move. I told you before the Giants have more talent than we do. We have 6 quality players on our roster. Dak, CeeDee, Micah, Diggs, Tyler, and Bland. We suck bruh. It’s going to be a two-three year rebuild. I wouldn’t even use free agency. We need to trade back and get picks for 2025 and 2026.
 

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It points to them actually using free agency this year.
No it doesnt. Stop.

They will draft. And say we build thru the draft yada yada yada.

It will be more of the same. They keep showing you they dont utilize FA. Yet you think they are going to start now? Its been almost 15 years since they signed a big name FA. LOL.
 

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In building an annual playoff contender or SB contender, you cannot afford to take any offseasons off. I'd even say that the same applies in building any competitive team.

Further, building strictly through the draft cannot be the sole philosophy. At some point you have to use high end free agency with trades mixed in as well. The Cowboys used trades in 2023 (Gilmore and Cooks) to supplement the roster and I commend them for it. They cannot expect to hit on every draft pick, so early free agency, trades, and frugal mid-tier free agency need to be sprinkled in as well.

The front office did a disservice to the franchise this offseason and it may have set the team back a few years.
Jerry took the offseason off to let everyone know that he was upset at being embarrassed by Green Bay again in the playoffs at home. Then when it appeared he was doing the smart thing and making Dak, CeeDee, ect earn their money he folds under media pressure and signs them to record breaking contracts. :facepalm: :mad: Dak fan here but that signing is going to kill us for the next few years because Jerry is going to have to build a team around Dak to make the extension look good. So I expect Jerry to draft offensive skill players. The trade for Mingo was for Dak.
 

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Full rebuild brother. That 4th round pick trade for Mingo a was idiotic Jerry move. I told you before the Giants have more talent than we do. We have 6 quality players on our roster. Dak, CeeDee, Micah, Diggs, Tyler, and Bland. We suck bruh. It’s going to be a two-three year rebuild. I wouldn’t even use free agency. We need to trade back and get picks for 2025 and 2026.
I think we could be pretty competitive next year if we actually have a pulse in FA and have a good draft as long as Dak is fully healthy next year.

Problem is there is a very low chance the Jones’ somewhat needs to be done in FA to make that happen.
 

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Jerry took the offseason off to let everyone know that he was upset at being embarrassed by Green Bay again in the playoffs at home. Then when it appeared he was doing the smart thing and making Dak, CeeDee, ect earn their money he folds under media pressure and signs them to record breaking contracts. :facepalm: :mad: Dak fan here but that signing is going to kill us for the next few years because Jerry is going to have to build a team around Dak to make the extension look good. The trade for Mingo was for Dak.
The trade for Mingo was for Dak? Ummm what?
 

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I think we could be pretty competitive next year if we actually have a pulse in FA and have a good draft as long as Dak is fully healthy next year.

Problem is there is a very low chance the Jones’ somewhat needs to be done in FA to make that happen.
Dak needs a full rebuild with offensive line, a real threat at number 2 receiver, and a stud runner. We cannot do that in one season with how frugal the Joneses are. We haven’t even talked about the defense that has only 4 players that are worth anything. Plus talent wise we are light years behind the Lions, Eagles and Packers. The Dak contract was a big mistake.
 

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The trade for Mingo was for Dak? Ummm what?
Jerry basically said Dak needs big receivers. In Jerry’s mind the trade was to help the quarterback. Every move the Cowboys make is to entertain or to make Dak’s contract worth it. Brother you have not seen anything yet. Wait until the offseason. The fire is only going to grow. Jeanty will be our first round pick, no doubt in my mind.
 

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Jerry took the offseason off to let everyone know that he was upset at being embarrassed by Green Bay again in the playoffs at home. Then when it appeared he was doing the smart thing and making Dak, CeeDee, ect earn their money he folds under media pressure and signs them to record breaking contracts. :facepalm: :mad: Dak fan here but that signing is going to kill us for the next few years because Jerry is going to have to build a team around Dak to make the extension look good. So I expect Jerry to draft offensive skill players. The trade for Mingo was for Dak.
I hear you. But, the playoff game embarrassment is nothing like the embarrassment Jerry and Stephen are feeling in-season. Even worse for them is that unlike years past the media and fans are not allowing them to scapegoat others. The spotlight was on after the embarrassing playoff loss and then you compound it by losing depth, inactivity during free agency, and waiting until the last minute to sign two players you had every intention on signing the day the League year started. Smh...this is totally on the Jones boys and I'm glad they are actually being held to the fire for it.
 
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I hear you. But, the playoff game embarrassment is nothing like the embarrassment Jerry and Stephen are feeling in-season. Even worse for them is that unlike years past the media and fans are not allowing for them to scapegoat others. The spotlight was on after the embarrassing playoff loss and then you compound it by losing depth, inactivity during free agency, and waiting until the last minute to sign two players you had every intention on signing the day the League year started. Smh...this is totally on the Jones boys and I'm glad they are actually being held to the fire for it.
Agreed. So they are about to do something really stupid in the offseason. The high draft pick might be the worst thing to happen for us fans. The Joneses circus will dominate the draft cycle.
 

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Dak needs a full rebuild with offensive line, a real threat at number 2 receiver, and a stud runner. We cannot do that in one season with how frugal the Joneses are. We haven’t even talked about the defense that has only 4 players that are worth anything. Plus talent wise we are light years behind the Lions, Eagles and Packers. The Dak contract was a big mistake.
I don’t think we need a full rebuild on the OL. The entire left side is solidified we just need to plug in a RG. Ideally one of these young kids can step in and play. Steele isn’t going anywhere but we have young talent that should continue to improve and be better next year. Not elite but good enough to win.

We can create a ton of money to spend in FA so it would be easy to patch holes…but the Jones just won’t do it. This isn’t a Dak contract problem it’s a Jones problem.

Again I’m not saying we can be a contender next year but we could be way more competitive and at least fun to watch again.
 

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Jerry basically said Dak needs big receivers. In Jerry’s mind the trade was to help the quarterback. Every move the Cowboys make is to entertain or to make Dak’s contract worth it. Brother you have not seen anything yet. Wait until the offseason. The fire is only going to grow. Jeanty will be our first round pick, no doubt in my mind.
I hope what you’re indicating is this is Jerry’s opinion not yours…

Trading for Mingo isn’t good for any QB.
 

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I hope what you’re indicating is this is Jerry’s opinion not yours…

Trading for Mingo isn’t good for any QB.
It’s not just Jerry’s opinion it’s Stephen, Will, and the other Yes men in the front office. Jeanty is a consensus top 8 player believe me the Cowboys are not the only team considering taking him in the top 10.

If I had my way I would trade the top 10 pick for more picks that would hopefully include someone’s first round pick for 2026.
 

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It’s not just Jerry’s opinion it’s Stephen, Will, and the other Yes men in the front office. Jeanty is a consensus top 8 player believe me the Cowboys are not the only team considering taking him in the top 10.

If I had my way I would trade the top 10 pick for more picks that would hopefully include someone’s first round pick for 2026.
Well yea I agree with our FO continuing to have and make bad decisions. That’s why we’re in this mess in the first place.

So we probably draft Jeanty, make no moves in FA, and expect to be good next year if I had to guess.
 

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Well yea I agree with our FO continuing to have and make bad decisions. That’s why we’re in this mess in the first place.

So we probably draft Jeanty, make no moves in FA, and expect to be good next year if I had to guess.
I am holding out hope that when the Cowboys get pulled from national televised games like Cincinnati and Tampa games, that it will make Jerry take a look in the mirror. The problem is that we are so bad that we will probably get a top 5 pick and that will give Jerry hope that he can dominate the news cycle after the Super Bowl with a new coaching hire and the 2025 draft. Believe me that is what Jerry and his people are more concerned about now.
 
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