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theogt;1543055 said:
At a minimum Henry will be around to finish his contract (through '09). It's a pretty cheap deal in those last 2 years (2.6 mm base salary). I think we'll draft a CB high in '08 to fill Glenn's nickel role and eventually take over for Henry.

I do trust Crayton as a 3rd receiver much more than I trust Glenn, but that has nothing to do with keeping a 6th receiver or a 6th CB to me.

I think Owens has the ability to play at a higher level for a longer time than Henry will do so. Meaning, Owens is at a higher level now and even when he begins to fall off, it will take him longer than Henry.

Crayton vs. Aaron Glenn, we already talked about.

Reeves vs Stanback. Stanback will be on the team longer than Reeves will, IMO. Even if Stanback "busts", Reeves is considered a borderline roster make this year.

Ball/Brown vs Austin/Hurd. Again, both sides are long shots to develop into anything....but IMO, CB looks to be more questionable in the near future, so I'd rather take a chance at keeping Ball and Brown around and seeing if we can get one to develop at CB for possibly a nickle role.
 

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firehawk350;1543042 said:
Kurt Warner was a #3 QB and so was Trent Green. Wasn't Romo slated as #3 before the season? My point being is you never know when you'll need them because if something happens to Romo and he's out for the season and then Johnson suffers even a minor injury that puts him out for the quarter or just a couple of plays, who are you going to put in? On top of that, you never know what young talent you might have.

I don't think planning on keeping 3 QBs in case 2 get hurt is the smart thing to do. If Romo did get hurt at the start of the game and Johnson got knocked out by half, would the team really be that much worse off for the rest of the game if they had Stanback or Crayton taking the snaps for the rest of the game?

I don't think they would and thats a risk I would like to take. 2 QBs is all you need. If you lose both in the same game, tough if out with your emergency QB and pick someone up after the game.

I was praying the team would dump Henson last year so someone else could have his spot and I see no reason why a 3rd QB would be needed again this year.

Plenty of teams go with 2-QBs and live. Heres a little article from PFT last year talking about it. And not sure "good read" and "PFT" go together but it isn't bad.

One of the new trends in the National Football League is to save a roster spot by carrying only two quarterbacks. Traditionally, teams have kept three signal-callers on the open roster.

As of this posting, nine of the 32 NFL teams have only two quarterbacks on the roster.

Because NFL franchises are allowed to dress 45 players plus an "emergency" No. 3 quarterback, the primary benefit of keeping only the starter and his backup is that it allows teams to keep a player on the active roster who otherwise would be on the eight-man practice squad, and thus continuously subject to an offer from another team to join its 53-man crew.

The reality, as we've seen it described in different ways by different coaches, is that if a team is forced to use its No. 3 quarterback in an actual game, the team already is in a dire situation, since it means that both the starter and his backup have been knocked out of the game due to injury. So why use a roster spot on a guy who really won't be in a position to help much, anyway?

The teams currently with only two quarterbacks on the roster are the Steelers (Charlie Batch and Ben Roethlisberger), the Colts (Peyton Manning and Jim Sorgi), the Ravens (Steve McNair and Kyle Boller), the Texans (David Carr and Sage Rosenfels), the Broncos (Jake Plummer and Jay Cutler), the Patriots (Tom Brady and Matt Cassel), the Chargers (Philip Rivers and Charlie Whitehurst), the Cowboys (Drew Bledsoe and Tony Romo), the Panthers (Jake Delhomme and Chris Weinke).

Trent Green and Warner are the exceptions, not the rule. Even Romo is too I suppose but heres what Romo had that the current #3 doesn't. Lots of time learning. Even Warner had his previous play with him as well.

2 QBs. All you need.
 

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theogt;1543055 said:
At a minimum Henry will be around to finish his contract (through '09). It's a pretty cheap deal in those last 2 years (2.6 mm base salary). I think we'll draft a CB high in '08 to fill Glenn's nickel role and eventually take over for Henry.

Oh no. Now you did it. Where is the "I think Courtney Brown is going to take Henry's job THIS YEAR" post.
 

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THUMPER;1542845 said:
OK, thanks everybody for your input and thoughts on this. After reading through all the posts there were areas of disagreement and a consensus wasn't available so I have some questions:

(I made it easy to quote and add your answers to the end of each question.)

1. QB - Should we keep 3 or only 2? Why?

2. RB - Who will be the 3rd RB, Thompson, Battle, or Coleman?

3. FB - Should we keep only 1 or go with 2? (Consensus seemed to be Anderson and Hoyte if we go with 2).

4. TE - Should we keep 3 or only 2? Who would be the 3rd TE if we go with 3; Hannah or Berger?

5. DL - Should we keep 7 or only 6?

6. CB - Should we go with 5 or add a 6th? (Ball seemed to be the consensus if we go with 6).

7. K - Should we go with 1 or keep 2?


I think we should keep two on the active roster and go with one on the PS. I think Steinbeck can be the emergency guy if needed. Besides, if we are in a position to need the third QB in a game, then I don't think it matters either way.

I think it all depends on Thompson's recovery. If he has fully recovered, then I think it's Thompson. You just can't underestimate how important it is to be able to understand your assignments in the blitz pickup or on the hot reads. To know the offense and understand what you must do to ready yourself for an NFL season is of enourmouse importance. If Thompson is healthy, I think he wins.

I think we go with 1 FB. I think it makes sense to try and keep one FB who is a true FB and perhaps one FB who can play some TE.

If you only keep 3 TEs, one of your other FBs must be able to play the TE position. If you run any two TE sets, you have to have four TEs. You can't run a two TE offense with just three guys. Any injury, at all, kills your offense. The question becomes, are we going to run any Two TE offense? I don't think, under any circumstances, you can go with just two TEs on the roster. I think it's Witten, Fasano, Bergen and maybe another just depending.

I think you keep 7 DLs.

I think you go with 5 CBs and assigne the 6th to the PS.

Only 1 guy should win the kicking job. I don't think we can afford to keep 2.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;1543132 said:
I think we should keep two on the active roster and go with one on the PS. I think Steinbeck can be the emergency guy if needed. Besides, if we are in a position to need the third QB in a game, then I don't think it matters either way.


I don't think he can be our emergency QB. As far as I know, he has never played QB in his life. Maybe he could write a story on it though...he's pretty good at that.
 

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Vintage;1543136 said:
I don't think he can be our emergency QB. As far as I know, he has never played QB in his life. Maybe he could write a story on it though...he's pretty good at that.


Stanback. Although, some may contended that he couldn't either and that he has about as much chance of playing QB for us as does Steinbeck. One of those things I suppose.
 
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