Rosters should be expanded

[xwalker]

You don't understand how it works. The salary cap is based on a percentage of estimated revenue. If you added 10 players to each roster, the players union is going to demand that the percentage of revenue allocated to the salary cap go up by the same percentage. The players are not going to accept splitting the same share of revenue among an addition 320 players. Never ever going to happen. It would take a huge chunk of profits right out of each owners pocket.

You are telling me I don't know how the salary cap works...

 

[Runwildboys]

The Hens sure would vote for it.

Lol...So you know where I was going with that!

 

[Cowboys22]

You are telling me I don't know how the salary cap works...

No, I'm saying that if you think you're going to add 320 players to the active rosters and keep the salary cap at the same level, then you don't understand how the system works. That's basically a 20% increase in the number of players and you think they are going to be okay splitting the same old pie? That's not going to happen. They are going to demand a matching increase in the salaries which in turn will take money directly out of the owner's pockets. That will never happen so neither side will be in favor of the proposal.

 

[Runwildboys]

No, I'm saying that if you think you're going to add 320 players to the active rosters and keep the salary cap at the same level, then you don't understand how the system works. That's basically a 20% increase in the number of players and you think they are going to be okay splitting the same old pie? That's not going to happen. They are going to demand a matching increase in the salaries which in turn will take money directly out of the owner's pockets. That will never happen so neither side will be in favor of the proposal.

Valid and nearly undeniable point.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Yes ........ but the poorest owners will not allow it.

Fixed it for you-Poorest and richest.

 

[Nightman]

No, I'm saying that if you think you're going to add 320 players to the active rosters and keep the salary cap at the same level, then you don't understand how the system works. That's basically a 20% increase in the number of players and you think they are going to be okay splitting the same old pie? That's not going to happen. They are going to demand a matching increase in the salaries which in turn will take money directly out of the owner's pockets. That will never happen so neither side will be in favor of the proposal.

That is why I suggested a 10 man Special Teams Squad....they would be active for game days in addition to the 45 man game rosters but could only play STs.....they would get a flat 200k or 2m per team that wouldn't count against the salary cap.... it would be less than a 1m increase if you account for eliminating the Practice Squad...it could be funded by the fines levied by the NFL

 

[Cowboys22]

That is why I suggested a 10 man Special Teams Squad....they would be active for game days in addition to the 45 man game rosters but could only play STs.....they would get a flat 200k or 2m per team that wouldn't count against the salary cap.... it would be less than a 1m increase if you account for eliminating the Practice Squad...it could be funded by the fines levied by the NFL

Personally, I don't think either side would ever go for something so radically different. The owners will agree to expand the rosters 2-3 players in exchange for an 18 game schedule and changes in the allocation of revenue towards player salaries that benefit them.

 

[Nightman]

Personally, I don't think either side would ever go for something so radically different. The owners will agree to expand the rosters 2-3 players in exchange for an 18 game schedule and changes in the allocation of revenue towards player salaries that benefit them.

18 games is dead in the water.....you can't preach safety and then add games...... the best they could do is add another bye week and a round of playoffs to add TV weeks to the season...then the Super Bowl would be played President's weekend with the Monday holiday

 

[xwalker]

No, I'm saying that if you think you're going to add 320 players to the active rosters and keep the salary cap at the same level, then you don't understand how the system works. That's basically a 20% increase in the number of players and you think they are going to be okay splitting the same old pie? That's not going to happen. They are going to demand a matching increase in the salaries which in turn will take money directly out of the owner's pockets. That will never happen so neither side will be in favor of the proposal.

1. It would be a negotiation between the NFL and the NFLPA. It can happen. Practice players reduce practice snaps for veterans. Players want to ban weed testing but will have to give up something get it. Players probably like the idea of increasing the 46 man gameday roster because that would add more special teams players.

2. It's not close to 20% in terms of money because the added players are the lowest paid. The agents are the ones that really drive the NFLPA and the money available to them overall would be the same.

3. The players would like less preseason games. The NFL could agree to limit vested veterans to 2 ps games and use only young players for the others.

4. It has been said that if they ever go to 18 games, that the NFLPA actually wanted to increase roster sizes including the 46.

5. I personally just want to make the practice squad protected. It probably wouldn't take much to get the NFLPA to agree to that change.

 

[Zman5]

At the minimum, they should change the rules so that each team has the right to put their own draft picks to the PS instead of having them being exposed to other teams via waiver wire.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I would not change the size of the roster. What I would do is add a designation to the PS. You can "tag" one maybe 2 players on your PS and they can't be taken from the PS by other teams. The team would have to pay them the minimum pay for a regular NFL player in their spot. For example, if it is a 2nd drafted player, they have to pay them the same as they would any other 2nd round pick that is on the 53. Same player can't be tagged more than once. etc.