Roy Williams a first teamer with the Bengals.

[ThreeSportStar80]

So what you're saying is... New England will have target practice tonight?????

 

[DavidS]

Hmmm. I watched the hard knocks show last night and it was conflicting... At first, the Narrator said he was 1st string...then the guy that was the backup said that he was happy to be ahead of Roy and didn't intend to give it up.

Watching Hard knocks...I have not been impressed with him. He is soft...

I dont know if anyone noticed.....

But Roy got put on his back by a Rookie WR (Purify) in the Oklahoma drill on Hard Knocks.

Sad, Just Sad. Never seen a player go soft like that in my life. No way he's starting in Cincy. I cant see him beating out Chris Crocker.

 

[cowboyschmps3]

i hope he does good and gets his career back

 

[WarDaddy]

This is sort of unrelated but I was watching Hard Knocks and the Bengals decided to spice up a training camp practice by doing all types of "fun" drills to keep the team morale up.

Anyway, they set up some rubber speed bump looking things 5 yards apart and put two relatively equal size players inbetween and ran a version of the "Oklahoma" drill. It looked interesting (I wanted to see how Tank Johnson would do...) because they picked an Offensive guy and a Defensive guy and made them go head up. They would line up a RB behind the Offensive guy and it was the O's responsiblity to block while the defender tried to shed the block and make the tackle. I'm thinking the defense should win more often than not. The players were hyped up so I kept watching. I'll mention that each matchup they showed was competitive where no one really gave ground and it was a real struggle. Riveting stuff.

Anyway, they saved the best matchup for last on the show...


They had a rookie WR line up opposite SS Roy Williams and I was like, "Word. I forgot Roy played for them. This rookie should have his welcome to the NFL moment right here..."

WRONG.

Your boy Roy Williams got demolished. He was pushed back at least 10 yards and planted firmly on his back.

I felt embarassed on one hand b/c I defended him hard when people questioned his ability but on the other hand I felt relieved that he is no longer left to stink it up in Dallas.

He might be starting now but he won't be by the end of the year.

 

[tyke1doe]

I dont know if anyone noticed.....

But Roy got put on his back by a Rookie WR (Purify) in the Oklahoma drill on Hard Knocks.

Sad, Just Sad. Never seen a player go soft like that in my life. No way he's starting in Cincy. I cant see him beating out Chris Crocker.

His regression is amazing to me.

His first year, he was dynamite. I don't recall one hit where he ever moved backwards.

He was a devastating tackler and a punisher.

Then he went down hill after that.

So sad.

 

[EPL0c0]

Glad he's gone, but do hope he does ok in Cinci

 

[djmajestik]

I think rule changes hurt him some but it was finding the lord and not wanting to hurt anyone that ruined his football career.

Not even close to being as viscous as he once was.

Was he ever viscous?

viscous in a Sentence
–adjective
1. of a glutinous nature or consistency; sticky; thick; adhesive.
2. having the property of viscosity.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I dont know if anyone noticed.....

But Roy got put on his back by a Rookie WR (Purify) in the Oklahoma drill on Hard Knocks.

Sad, Just Sad. Never seen a player go soft like that in my life. No way he's starting in Cincy. I cant see him beating out Chris Crocker.

Not only that...but prior to the drills they had him telling the cameras that him and another player (coles maybe) worked out a plan to basically half step the drill but they got busted by the coaches.

 

[casmith07]

I wish him well - would like to see him recover his career but it's doubtful at this point.

 

[Gaede]

Football just isn't that important to Roy.

It's that simple.

He hinted at it right after he left Oklahoma.

Exactly what I was gonna say. He just doesn't care all that much about the game.

 

[big dog cowboy]

i hope he does good and gets his career back

The old Roy Williams isn't coming back. That player is gone forever.

 

[RS12]

Just what the Bungles needed was another guy on defense that cant tackle or cover. Cincy is the Clippers of the NFL.:laugh2:

 

[yimyammer]

Somebody was on talking about him in Cinci the other day, might have been Mosley. Said he was told RW has had a poor camp and didnt look any different there.

I dont know if he did or didnt play vs New Orleans last week but he didnt show up in the stats.

Hard Knocks isn't showing him in the best light

 

[Oh_Canada]

Or how about don't care at all?

Second that.

 

[AmishCowboy]

He was a very good player up until 2005 and then went downhill mentally after that. I cannot fault Jones for drafting him. He was a great player, but he, not Jones, was responsible for fine-tuning his game to adjust to the changes. If he was in shape, mentally into it, motivated and hungry, he could still be a decent safety. I firmly believe that. But for whatever reason (mostly between his ears), he's not and probably will never be again.

I do fault Jerry Jones for the extension. His loyalty to his players has always been a problem so Williams was not much different than many bad extensions he's granted over the years.

 

[Alexander]

While he may not have had the initial understanding, he still had the ability to learn over time. Roy was not willing to do that.

He never put enough time in the playbook or film room here. It was a known fact. That was as much of the problem as anything else.

Most defensive backs get smarter and better at coverage as they become experienced. They may lose a gear, but make up for that with anticipation and guile. Williams was the opposite. He never bothered to get the little things to help him along.

What helped him earlier in his career was his reputation. He wasn't challenged that much because he had made some plays and above all else played well, angry. He was a punisher. When that aspect went away and the malaise set in, it was open season. Once teams realized he was no longer the big bad wolf, he was targeted.

Above all, he never took enough pride to refine the parts of his game. Ronnie Lott survived as long as he did by getting more filmwork in and by keeping himself in shape. He never lost that ferocious edge, it fueled him until he quit. Williams did none of that because the game simply wasn't that important. It never had been. I think he plays now for a paycheck, but even then he doesn't seem that into it. His reaction off of Hard Knocks didn't strike me as that of a man with a lot of professional pride who wants to show he's still among the game's elite.

 

[skinsscalper]

Most defensive backs get smarter and better at coverage as they become experienced. They may lose a gear, but make up for that with anticipation and guile. Williams was the opposite. He never bothered to get the little things to help him along.

What helped him earlier in his career was his reputation. He wasn't challenged that much because he had made some plays and above all else played well, angry. He was a punisher. When that aspect went away and the malaise set in, it was open season. Once teams realized he was no longer the big bad wolf, he was targeted.

Above all, he never took enough pride to refine the parts of his game. Ronnie Lott survived as long as he did by getting more filmwork in and by keeping himself in shape. He never lost that ferocious edge, it fueled him until he quit. Williams did none of that because the game simply wasn't that important. It never had been. I think he plays now for a paycheck, but even then he doesn't seem that into it. His reaction off of Hard Knocks didn't strike me as that of a man with a lot of professional pride who wants to show he's still among the game's elite.

Actually I think the biggest factor early in Williams' career was the presence of Darren Woodson. Woody was a pro's pro. Once Woodson departed, so did Williams' game.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I dont have any ill will toward Roy so I'm hoping he does well in his new starting role on a new team.

 

[Alexander]

Actually I think the biggest factor early in Williams' career was the presence of Darren Woodson. Woody was a pro's pro. Once Woodson departed, so did Williams' game.

Perhaps, but Williams was highly effective early in his career with Tony Dixon next to him in the secondary. And if it was Woodson's tutelege, I think we can establish the fact he didn't retain what he learned from him very well.