Roy Williams has been exposed on MNF

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ScottCase said:
Roy must help out in both spots - and he let Glenn and all Cowboys fans worldwide
I'm sick to my stomach right now...

LOL , this is BS. He made tons of hits, including 3rd down stops and what...2 sacks. Dude was awesome. 2 guys were responsible for that coverage and Glenn the most so.
 

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Roy has never been able to cover. The smart coaches like Gibbs, Reid, etc, know all they have to so is get him isolated 1-on-1 w/a WR and it is 6 points. I love RW to death, but he is just not a complete player like Sean Taylor and Ed Reed are. Reed would have been a better choice 4 years ago. But hindsight is always 20/20. I hate Parcells....
 

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spindoc said:
Roy cannot cover. How many times must you see this to know it's true? He is a great hitter, but a horrible cover guy. He shouldn't even be back there on third or fourth and long. He should be blitzing. Another bad coaching decision.
true but most fans wont admit he is mediocre at best in coverage,how about the dropped int. He played a great game otherwise,but let's not forget,he was only helping and Glenn stunk the joint up tonight.
 

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Roy had some serious things seriously fly by. I dont know what happened.
 

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diehard2231 said:
true but most fans wont admit he is mediocre at best in coverage,how about the dropped int. He played a great game otherwise,but let's not forget,he was only helping and Glenn stunk the joint up tonight.
What do you want to do about it then?
If you know RW can't cover, then why don't you keep Newman on the edges, and keep Glenn in the slot where he belongs?
 

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Z-Man said:
LOL , this is BS. He made tons of hits, including 3rd down stops and what...2 sacks. Dude was awesome. 2 guys were responsible for that coverage and Glenn the most so.
the discussion is about his inability to cover,no one should dispute he played good otherwise
 

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ScottCase said:
as the piece of Toast he is....he is the worst cover guy in America.
A disgrace - who has that Stupid "Who me Aww Shucks" look on his face far far too much -
Thanx for blowing the game you soft talking bum!

gee, wonder who the genius was who called that crappy defense several times late in the game

David
 

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He's a LB playing saftey. The whole team is exposed as a fraud after that one. Season may be screwed.
 

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ScottCase said:
as the piece of Toast he is....he is the worst cover guy in America.
A disgrace - who has that Stupid "Who me Aww Shucks" look on his face far far too much -
Thanx for blowing the game you soft talking bum!

I want to bury your face in your prospectve call of a game. You know what??? Are you happy?

You are the man. Im flying to Dallas to beat your ***. Congratz !
 

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smashmouth said:
What do you want to do about it then?
If you know RW can't cover, then why don't you keep Newman on the edges, and keep Glenn in the slot where he belongs?
The coach makes that decision not us
 

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stilltheguru said:
what the hell did sean taylor do today that was so complete?***
agreed,however that hit on Crayton stopped us from getting a first down
 

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CalCBFan said:
Roy has never been able to cover. The smart coaches like Gibbs, Reid, etc, know all they have to so is get him isolated 1-on-1 w/a WR and it is 6 points. I love RW to death, but he is just not a complete player like Sean Taylor and Ed Reed are. Reed would have been a better choice 4 years ago. But hindsight is always 20/20. I hate Parcells....

Roy is decent in coverage. But you shouldn't see him cover a guy running 4.3. I mean very few safeties in the league can cover 4.3 guys like that. Ed Reed would have given up those 2 TDs today. It was bad coaching that lost it. You should be blitzing on that 4th and 15 and giving Brunell as little time as possible and have single coverage team. You may have still gotten beat but it was with a guy that should cover the WR better. Safeties shouldn't be covering the other teams number 1 WR all the time.

And those coverages weren't on just Roy. They were on Glenn too. But I think they were on the coaches most of all.
 

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Roy is decent in coverage. But you shouldn't see him cover a guy running 4.3. I mean very few safeties in the league can cover 4.3 guys like that. Ed Reed would have given up those 2 TDs today. It was bad coaching that lost it. You should be blitzing on that 4th and 15 and giving Brunell as little time as possible and have single coverage team. You may have still gotten beat but it was with a guy that should cover the WR better. Safeties shouldn't be covering the other teams number 1 WR all the time.

And those coverages weren't on just Roy. They were on Glenn too. But I think they were on the coaches most of all.
Roy's not covering him by himself :banghead: He is deep help :eek:
 

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The Cowboys were two-deep on the last one. Glenn was running Moss to deep support (Roy Williams). The problem being, in two-deep, the safety in deep support has to remain deeper than the deepest, meaning everything must stay in front.

Just about any corner in this league is going to get taken to school when an NFL quarterback has time to set up and throw to a fleet receiver like Moss. Cornerbacks have absolutely no shot when deep help is flanked like it was twice late tonight.

That's the whole point of a cover two. It should never be flanked. Ever. All the safety has to do there is keep the play in front and there is either a play on the ball or the passer is forced to check down.

Sadly enough, its an elementary football concept. And the Skins' offense had been inept to that point.
 

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If I were SF - I'd Run Lloyd at Roy on Every play - Roy couldn't cover me fat Aunt Sally
 

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Bottom line is that Glenn is somewhat to blame, but most of the blame must be placed on Roy. Roy is a safety. A safety should never let anyone get passed him no matter how badly a CB gets beat. I mean Roy is way off the line of scrimmage. He is supposed to act as a safety net that prevents the deep play.

No doubt about it, as good as Roy was for the majority of the game, his late 4th quarter play lost it for us. No doubt.
 

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Wolfpack said:
Glenn was in man to man on both TD plays...Roy was in middle zone.

Glenn got exposed for lack of speed.

I agree but Roy bit on the wrong receiver on the first TD and had contain and Moss was behind both Glenn and Roy on the second...as stated before why not the Blitz on 4-15 and why was Newman not on Moss..complete crap.
 
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