Roy Williams has been exposed on MNF

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NickZepp said:
That was zone coverage with one of the fastest WRs in the NFL. If anything is exposed it's the scheme. Which is one everyone uses. Looking back on the 4th and 15 we should have blitzed Roy instead and forced a hurried throw. The game would then be over.

Except the pass was between the zone coverage, it was OVER THE TOP. And the SAFETY is supposed to be the DEEPEST player on the field.
 

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ROYDESTROY said:
I agree but Roy bit on the wrong receiver on the first TD and had contain and Moss was behind both Glenn and Roy on the second...as stated before why not the Blitz on 4-15 and why was Newman on Moss..complete crap.

Roy shouldn't have bit AT ALL. If the slot WR slants to the other side of the field, Keith Davis is there.
 

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diehard2231 said:
agreed,however that hit on Crayton stopped us from getting a first down

if he wouldnt have I'm sure we'd have seen the timely holding call on Adams to make sure

:rolleyes:

David
 

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Its a two deep Zone.....Roy should of had it.....no excuses....he blew it.....twice
 

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TheHustler said:
Except the pass was between the zone coverage, it was OVER THE TOP. And the SAFETY is supposed to be the DEEPEST player on the field.

The WR got past Glenn way to fast also which hurt those plays. There wasn't much Roy could do. Maybe there was more in the first one. But you can't play that deep in a zone. Our CB needed to do a better job to make it easier on Roy and harder to throw it on target. Both failed their job. That being said. We shouldn't have been in a zone on the 4th and 15 play.
 

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I love Roy Williams, but this is another example that he cannot cover a fast receiver.

I don't know how far fetched this is, but Urlacher was a safety in college and when he got to the NFL he has been a Pro Bowl linebacker for years now.

Not this season, but maybe in the future it could be a possibility that Roy be moved to linebacker. Here he would dominate by being closer to the line of scrimmage and covering RB's and TE's all the time.

He's a liability late in close games, plain and simple.
 

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Yawn. Stop blaming Roy. The first long 4th and 15 conversion wasn't his fault. And the last long touchdown conversion wasn't his fault either. That was a defense that should NEVER have been called.
 

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parcellsguys said:
He's a liability late in close games, plain and simple.

so that 17yd sack he got on 2nd and 10 was lousy too huh?

what about that forced fumble at the end of the first half?

also, he has an easy pick to ice the game late (downfield) but has it knocked out of his hands by his own player...

David
 

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NickZepp said:
The WR got past Glenn way to fast also which hurt those plays. There wasn't much Roy could do. Maybe there was more in the first one. But you can't play that deep in a zone. Our CB needed to do a better job to make it easier on Roy and harder to throw it on target. Both failed their job. That being said. We shouldn't have been in a zone on the 4th and 15 play.

Roy's got a 20 yard head start to get to the end zone and he gets beat. no excuses.
 

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dbair1967 said:
so that 17yd sack he got on 2nd and 10 was lousy too huh?

what about that forced fumble at the end of the first half?

also, he has an easy pick to ice the game late (downfield) but has it knocked out of his hands by his own player...

David

No one knocked out the potential INT. It slipped right through his hands and hit him in the face mask.
 

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Roy Williams has gotten soft over the past couple of years. He can't cover my grandmother right now.
 

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TheHustler said:
No one knocked out the potential INT. It slipped right through his hands and hit him in the face mask.

I have it on tape man...Henry hit him as the ball got there

David
 

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TheHustler said:
Roy's got a 20 yard head start to get to the end zone and he gets beat. no excuses.

whats ridiculous is seeing your defensive coordinator make alot of pansy like calls at key moments

and it happens YEAR AFTER YEAR, GAME AFTER GAME

David
 

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SultanOfSix said:
Yawn. Stop blaming Roy. The first long 4th and 15 conversion wasn't his fault. And the last long touchdown conversion wasn't his fault either. That was a defense that should NEVER have been called.

Two deep with man underneath when the offense needs a LONG gain to get a first down? Sounds like a great call to me, except if Roy is going to let the WR run by him.

What would you like? A goal line stand?
 

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MOve Roy to LB get him out of coverage, its just not his cup of tea. Matter of fact Mark Brunell should send a thank you letter to him, he made the old washed up QB a hero
 

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TheHustler said:
Two deep with man underneath when the offense needs a LONG gain to get a first down? Sounds like a great call to me, except if Roy is going to let the WR run by him.

What would you like? A goal line stand?

He cheated to the inside to cover the inside post man. Madden even made reference to it. When he saw the ball go up in the air, he turned to cover the receiver it was thrown to. The pass just happened to be perfect. Shocker. On 4th and 15. I guess it was Henry's fault to on that long pass in SD on 4th and 14. See a pattern here?
 

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dbair1967 said:
I have it on tape man...Henry hit him as the ball got there

David


You said he hit the ball:

dbair1967 said:
also, he has an easy pick to ice the game late (downfield) but has it knocked out of his hands by his own player...

David

And its not like Henry tackled him, of course there is going to be contact.
 

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Roy was all over the field tonight. He played an awesome game. The plays the Commanders called were perfect for the coverage we had, period. They executed. And if you have ever played the game, you know, when you have the right play called, and execute it perfectly, it impossible to stop. Thier OC guessed right and Zimmer didn't. You take RW out the line up and our defense goes down hill, FAST.
 

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SultanOfSix said:
He cheated to the inside to cover the inside post man. Madden even made reference to it. When he saw the ball go up in the air, he turned to cover the receiver it was thrown to. The pass just happened to perfect. Shocker. On 4th and 15. I guess it was Henry's fault to on that long pass in SD on 4th and 14. See a pattern here?

He didn't have to cheat over, there's a safety on the other side of the field, that's why it's called a two deep zone.
 
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