Roy Williams is getting Better and Better for Us.

TheMarathonContinues

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Givincer;3148720 said:
The only way in which it wouldn't matter is if every player on the team was paid the same salary.

But players are paid based on their perceived worth to the team. So when we pay a guy as much money as we paid Roy Williams, a certain level of production is expected. The #1 and #2 labels, in my opinion, simply come from measuring Williams' productivity relative to the rest of the receivers on the team, which is perfectly legitimate.

Like I said the distinction between #1 and #2 would not really mean much if every player was paid the same amount of money, as it'd be inconsequential. But when you have a lot of money invested in a specific guy, you hope he produces at a certain level, as you have only a limited amount of money to work with.

I don't have any money invested in Roy though. Jerry does. So that being said, #1 or #2 or stats don't mean a thing to make. Production does. This is sort of off topic but I saw last night the 76ers who gave Elton Brand 80 million dollars about two offseasons ago is now coming off the bench. The 76ers broke I believe a 12 game lose streak last night. Do you believe the 6ers are saying to themselves "Man.....we won but we're paying Elton Brand to come off the bench" Or do you think they're just happy they won?

I just get tired of this whole contract talk about Roy. Money isn't a issue with this team. Contracts can be restructured. So for those that feel they have to hate Roy because of his contract? It doesn't matter.
 

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Vertigo_17;3148448 said:
yes, very encouraging in the last couple of games. after watching RW at UT, you know the guy can play...just a matter of making the best use of his skills. too bad it might have taken half a season too long for the chemistry to develop.

what kills me about the RW trade is that Jerry could have simply waited until the end of last season to sign him.

long term, I think he's going to be a solid contributer (assuming they don't blow up the offense in the offseason) :)

Well Jerry thought this team was a Super Bowl contender last season. We can fault Jerry for that but well I think we all fall in that same boat. I think in hindsight had he known we wouldn't even make the playoffs he wouldn't have traded for Roy. Unless Detroit would've franchised him but I doubt it.
 

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hawklegion;3148262 said:
As a UT grad I have always liked RW. I had high hopes when we picked him up. I still have hope for him because IMO RW is not being used correctly. Slants, slants and more slants, try it.

I'm also a big fan of Roy's... as such, I have to relucantly agree that he has not lived up to what Jerry paid for him-- and he probably never will...

With the receiving talent on this team, he will probably never be a 75-80 catch receiver for the Boys... Witten and Austin will demand too many balls thrown their way, there's only so many catches to go around... but if you look at the numbers he's put up the last 6 games, you have to believe that he and Tony have gotten more on the same page... and if you extrapolate those kinds of numbers out over a 16 game season, you can easily project 60 catches for over 900 yards, and 10 TDs for next season...

He's also emerging as a solid target in the red zone...

With a Witten and an Austin on the field, those would be some solid numbers, IMO... I still think the best is yet to come for Romo to Williams...
 

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malbis030347;3148267 said:
just saw him on NFL network...said they will be ready to play, they have not quit by any stretch in spite of everyone annointing the Saints SB champs...he showed a little attitude, not cockiness ..I liked it

Yeah I didnt see anything wrong with what he said, but our typcial cast of clowns made a 1000 page thread of it bashing him for saying anything
 

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rocyaice;3148741 said:
I don't have any money invested in Roy though. Jerry does. So that being said, #1 or #2 or stats don't mean a thing to make. Production does. This is sort of off topic but I saw last night the 76ers who gave Elton Brand 80 million dollars about two offseasons ago is now coming off the bench. The 76ers broke I believe a 12 game lose streak last night. Do you believe the 6ers are saying to themselves "Man.....we won but we're paying Elton Brand to come off the bench" Or do you think they're just happy they won?

You don't have any money invested, your team does. The reason that matters to you as a fan: If your team is overpaying (by a lot), they have x number of dollars that cannot be used elsewhere because it is being used to pay for a #2's production.

I agree in the sense that it does not matter so much this particular year, since we've already got our roster set. But in the long run having players who don't produce to the level they are paid is very bad. So it's definitely relevant.

I just get tired of this whole contract talk about Roy. Money isn't a issue with this team. Contracts can be restructured. So for those that feel they have to hate Roy because of his contract? It doesn't matter.

I'm not at all saying I hate Roy. Just saying that the relationship between how much he's paid and how much he's producing is definitely very relevant.
 

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i like how he is coming around. he is one of my favorite players, but it is sad when my buddy watching the games with me ( which is a skins fan) wonders why hey are not feeding him slants and fades(redzone) all day.
 

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Very happy to see this.

After the Packers game, I was completely off the bus.
100% certain we would have won had he injured himself in the pregame warm-up and never played that day. I still believe this.

It has been a real nice turn around.

My favortite play of his this month was the long catch and run against the Chargers where he put two hands on the ball at the tail end of the play.

Can't tell you how happy I was to see that.:bravo:
 
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