Roy Williams (RW11)

[rwilliamsfan]

I understand that it takes time to learn an offense and to trust a new receiver, but this RW11 situation seems a bit strange.

We picked him up to a have another threat when teams decide to bring a guy over the top on TO, yet Romo rarely looks his way. The few times he's seen a good ball he's made some pretty fantastic plays (that one-hander down the sideline from BJ).

Sure I've seen him run some really poor routes, but the guy is a big, strong athlete, can we get some screens to him and let him beat guys after the catch (a la TO when he was with the Niners) or hit him on some simple short routes? The o-line hasn't been good lately, so Romo often doesn't have the time for longer routes to develop. I think some shorter stuff to RW11 might be good.

I guess the bottom line is that he seems like a huge weapon we aren't even trying to use.

Thoughts?

(Also, I'm not on his jock that hard, I just couldn't think of another handle quickly while signing up yesterday).

 

[casmith07]

I understand that it takes time to learn an offense and to trust a new receiver, but this RW11 situation seems a bit strange.

We picked him up to a have another threat when teams decide to bring a guy over the top on TO, yet Romo rarely looks his way. The few times he's seen a good ball he's made some pretty fantastic plays (that one-hander down the sideline from BJ).

Sure I've seen him run some really poor routes, but the guy is a big, strong athlete, can we get some screens to him and let him beat guys after the catch (a la TO when he was with the Niners) or hit him on some simple short routes? The o-line hasn't been good lately, so Romo often doesn't have the time for longer routes to develop. I think some shorter stuff to RW11 might be good.

I guess the bottom line is that he seems like a huge weapon we aren't even trying to use.

Thoughts?

(Also, I'm not on his jock that hard, I just couldn't think of another handle quickly while signing up yesterday).

Give Red Jesus a call, ask him why he can't figure out how to get his players going against opposing defenses.

And then give Wade a call, and ask him why he's not holding his offensive coordinator accountable for making brutal playcalls for 17 weeks.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I think he is just a tad slow and has a hard time getting separation. I also think he's not that bright, seems like Romo has to line him up before most plays. I've seen Romo air mail a few balls, then Roy walks back to line looking like he ran the wrong route.

His foot may be bothering him, but we're stuck with him. All 5 years and 45 million dollars worth.

 

[Shinywalrus]

Deion Sanders was relatively insightful during in-game commentary, pointing out the various times that Roy has been quite clearly open.

Romo isn't looking for him. Doesn't have to be a knock on Tony, maybe he just needs to get a comfort level with someone before he'll put him where he ought to in the progression. But Roy11 is definitely open, definitely putting himself in position to make plays.

 

[rwilliamsfan]

I think he is just a tad slow and has a hard time getting separation. I also think he's not that bright, seems like Romo has to line him up before most plays. I've seen Romo air mail a few balls, then Roy walks back to line looking like he ran the wrong route.

His foot may be bothering him, but we're stuck with him. All 5 years and 45 million dollars worth.

Yeah, I've seen some bad routes as well, that is why I am talking about utilizing him with really simple 5-10 yard stuff. I know screens are like the devil's work to Garrett, but I think some small changes on offense could go a long way.

 

[rwilliamsfan]

Deion Sanders was relatively insightful during in-game commentary, pointing out the various times that Roy has been quite clearly open.

Romo isn't looking for him. Doesn't have to be a knock on Tony, maybe he just needs to get a comfort level with someone before he'll put him where he ought to in the progression. But Roy11 is definitely open, definitely putting himself in position to make plays.

Yeah, that really seems to be the case. RW11 being last in the progression and Tony never getting there.

Howabout every once in awhile he's our first look on some short to med range stuff?

 

[quaigs]

There was one play in the game were the ravens messed up their pre-snap coverage and the guy covering Roy was on the other side of the field leaving him totally uncovered. Romo never even looked his way while despite Roy clapping his hand trying to get his attention. The DB eventually clued in but didn't even make it past center before the ball was snapped leaving RW totally uncovered and yet stilll didn't get the ball thrown to him.

 

[Ben Roflsberger]

Give Red Jesus a call, ask him why he can't figure out how to get his players going against opposing defenses.

And then give Wade a call, and ask him why he's not holding his offensive coordinator accountable for making brutal playcalls for 17 weeks.

red jesus.

 

[cowheel]

Romo is the problem.

He just doesn't look for anyone other than Owens and Witten.

It's so puzzling to me that we supposedly have all these weapons....
T.O., Witten, Roy Williams, Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Miles Austin...
and NONE of these guys are gettin' open?????

Either Garrett is not drawing up plays for these other guys...
or Romo just doesn't look their direction.

 

[rwilliamsfan]

Romo is the problem.

He just doesn't look for anyone other than Owens and Witten.

It's so puzzling to me that we supposedly have all these weapons....
T.O., Witten, Roy Williams, Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Miles Austin...
and NONE of these guys are gettin' open?????

Either Garrett is not drawing up plays for these other guys...
or Romo just doesn't look their direction.

Yeah, I think i'm finally on that idea-train as well. God, don't even get me started on the lack of balls to Crayton/Austin on slants.

 

[TheCount]

Romo is the problem.

He just doesn't look for anyone other than Owens and Witten.

It's so puzzling to me that we supposedly have all these weapons....
T.O., Witten, Roy Williams, Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Miles Austin...
and NONE of these guys are gettin' open?????

Either Garrett is not drawing up plays for these other guys...
or Romo just doesn't look their direction.

Romo has never had great vision, it's probably the same reason we don't run 4 or 5 wide sets, despite all the weapons. Another reason is probably that the oline may block or decide not to on any given play.

Romo is great at creating though, and he makes something out of nothing pretty often. He's also under duress a lot, but I don't think he's the type that instinctively knows where the holes are in a defense before the snap.

I'm sure Garrets play calling has something to do with it, of course.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Romo has never had great vision, it's probably the same reason we don't run 4 or 5 wide sets, despite all the weapons. Another reason is probably that the oline may block or decide not to on any given play.

Romo is great at creating though, and he makes something out of nothing pretty often. He's also under duress a lot, but I don't think he's the type that instinctively knows where the holes are in a defense before the snap.

I'm sure Garrets play calling has something to do with it, of course.

Give me Matt Cassell.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

If Roy is really getting open then Tony needs to get over the lack of trust with him and just start getting him some balls. That's how you build the comfort and the trust.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

If Roy is really getting open then Tony needs to get over the lack of trust with him and just start getting him some balls. That's how you build the comfort and the trust.

Or you have more meetings with Fireball only so you can get underthrown.

 

[SteveOS]

Probably has something to do w/ his plantar flasfoothurts. If he is injured and can't get any seperation, he needs to sit the fark down.

 

[Shinywalrus]

If he is injured and can't get any seperation, he needs to sit the fark down.

That would be the case if he wasn't getting separation, but that hasn't been the case.

 

[alancdc]

Deion Sanders was relatively insightful during in-game commentary, pointing out the various times that Roy has been quite clearly open.

Romo isn't looking for him. Doesn't have to be a knock on Tony, maybe he just needs to get a comfort level with someone before he'll put him where he ought to in the progression. But Roy11 is definitely open, definitely putting himself in position to make plays.

Totally agree. He doesn't even get a look on most reads. It is an absolute joke. What would McNabb do with TO, RW, Witten, Crayton, Barber and Choice. It is a joke.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Totally agree. He doesn't even get a look on most reads. It is an absolute joke. What would McNabb do with TO, RW, Witten, Crayton, Barber and Choice. It is a joke.

He doesn't have time you *******. I would love to watch film of the game from last week, and count how many times Romo had a solid pocket to go through his reads. When he did, he made the Ravens pay. When he didn't he made poor throws. Almost every time he dropped back, a Raven came free, or he was forced to scramble. So if he is forced to scramble to his right, and Roy is running a corner from the left hash - it doesn't matter if he is wide open or not.

Romo has made this offensive line look a lot better than it is, for years as a matter of fact.

 

[jazzcat22]

Who can really say if RW11 runs wrong routes. We don't know what route he is supposed to run. So to me that is a bad argument. Now there are some on this board may know more about the routes. There are some that think they know about routes. We don't see the entire play and routes of every WR on the TV.

All I see is that the very few times Romo does throw to RW11, he has some great hands and pulls in a ball that should have been thrown better. Not very often he seemed to be on target to him.

Bottom line, IMO, Romo just does not look his way as often as he should and / or Garrett is just not trying to get him involved as he should, or both.

 

[alancdc]

He doesn't have time you *******. I would love to watch film of the game from last week, and count how many times Romo had a solid pocket to go through his reads. When he did, he made the Ravens pay. When he didn't he made poor throws. Almost every time he dropped back, a Raven came free, or he was forced to scramble. So if he is forced to scramble to his right, and Roy is running a corner from the left hash - it doesn't matter if he is wide open or not.

Romo has made this offensive line look a lot better than it is, for years as a matter of fact.

Made that kind of personal didn't ya? I have never called anyone on here a *&#($&@#($&@(#&( so please put the passy down and play like an adult. I really like Romo, but you can not tell me he doesn't have enough time to get to RW or Crayton on his reads. That is b/s you #*($)@#($*)#(*$@)#(*)!