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alancdc;2518337 said:
Made that kind of personal didn't ya? I have never called anyone on here a *&#($&@#($&@(#&( so please put the passy down and play like an adult. I really like Romo, but you can not tell me he doesn't have enough time to get to RW or Crayton on his reads. That is b/s you #*($)@#($*)#(*$@)#(*)! :)


Damn playa.....

You're so hood..... :cool:
 

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alancdc;2518337 said:
Made that kind of personal didn't ya? I have never called anyone on here a *&#($&@#($&@(#&( so please put the passy down and play like an adult. I really like Romo, but you can not tell me he doesn't have enough time to get to RW or Crayton on his reads. That is b/s you #*($)@#($*)#(*$@)#(*)! :)

So you're telling me... That you can honestly say... That during the Ravens game Romo had time to throw the football, and that he had time to go through his reads?

That team was bringing the house, and they got to him when they wanted to.

You saying that he had time to throw in the game is something an ******* would say (totally irrational and a thought process that defies logic), *******.
 

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GoinForSix;2518365 said:
So you're telling me... That you can honestly say... That during the Ravens game Romo had time to throw the football, and that he had time to go through his reads?

That team was bringing the house, and they got to him when they wanted to.

You saying that he had time to throw in the game is something an ******* would say (totally irrational and a thought process that defies logic), *******.

Honestly, I may have put the blame on Romo with the McNabb comment, but really consider it a Garrett play calling issue. Maybe I should have said what would Andy Reid do with all that tallent? Was he hurried Saturday? Absolutely. I am rarely irrational but sometimes do defy logic.
 

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I think it is a timing issue with Romo. They need a training camp together. I would like to see them work on 3-4 plays that Romo feels really comfortable with him on and get him involved. He looks good when he gets the ball.
 

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GoinForSix;2518220 said:
He doesn't have time you *******. I would love to watch film of the game from last week, and count how many times Romo had a solid pocket to go through his reads. When he did, he made the Ravens pay. When he didn't he made poor throws. Almost every time he dropped back, a Raven came free, or he was forced to scramble. So if he is forced to scramble to his right, and Roy is running a corner from the left hash - it doesn't matter if he is wide open or not.

Romo has made this offensive line look a lot better than it is, for years as a matter of fact.

I agree with the fact that Romo is often not getting enough time to make it through all the reads, but that isn't what the thread is about. I'm saying given RW11's obvious skills, he needs to be a 1st look more often. You don't need a lot of time for that, especially if we can start him on shorter routes.
 

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GoinForSix;2518220 said:
He doesn't have time you *******. I would love to watch film of the game from last week, and count how many times Romo had a solid pocket to go through his reads. When he did, he made the Ravens pay. When he didn't he made poor throws. Almost every time he dropped back, a Raven came free, or he was forced to scramble. So if he is forced to scramble to his right, and Roy is running a corner from the left hash - it doesn't matter if he is wide open or not.

Romo has made this offensive line look a lot better than it is, for years as a matter of fact.

Pressure doesn't help, but I hardly think Romo is under pressure than most other QBs.

Look how much pressure Roethlisberger gets on him, more than essentially any quarterback in the league. Yet he delivers, using last week as an example, 7 passes to Ward for 109 and a TD, 5 to Holmes, including a TD, 8 to his TE and a smattering to three other players. He isn't keying on a single guy.

Other teams that get beat on at the line, like New England, have had similar success. Cassel gets a guy on him before he takes his third step, but Gaffney, Moss and Welker are all weapons, all people he looks to.

I'm not saying either of these guys is as talented as Romo, but the idea that pass distribution tendencies will always be forced by pressure is absurd. You identify the blitzer(s) and determine where in the scheme the hole(s) may potentially be as a result. Instead of doing this in 2008, Romo has tended to assume it will be Owens or Witten, and when that fails, simply dumps it off to the back for -1 to 3 yards.

Doesn't mean he's a bad quarterback, just means there's a part of his game that just so happens to be bad.
 

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I have defended Romo in the past, saying he is great at spreading the ball around, but consistency is the problem. He will have a game where he throws to TO, Witten, Bennett, Crayton, Austin and the running backs. Then he'll have a game where he only looks at TO and/or Witten, telegraphing passes and making dangerous throws. And I can't figure out why it's so hard to get the ball to Roy. His foot might hurt, but he's out there and he wants the ball. Romo throws the ball way too high on the rare occasions that Roy is the intended receiver. None of it makes sense and it's so frustrating. Roy has held his tongue for the most part. He has been a team player, blocking on running downs for example. It all comes down to Sunday's game. If Romo can utilize all of the weapons at his disposal for 4 quarters, taking what the defense gives him, we will make the playoffs. That's assuming that the defense gets back to domination and the special teams continue at least at their mediocre pace.
 

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Shinywalrus;2518458 said:
Pressure doesn't help, but I hardly think Romo is under pressure than most other QBs.

Look how much pressure Roethlisberger gets on him, more than essentially any quarterback in the league. Yet he delivers, using last week as an example, 7 passes to Ward for 109 and a TD, 5 to Holmes, including a TD, 8 to his TE and a smattering to three other players. He isn't keying on a single guy.

Other teams that get beat on at the line, like New England, have had similar success. Cassel gets a guy on him before he takes his third step, but Gaffney, Moss and Welker are all weapons, all people he looks to.

I'm not saying either of these guys is as talented as Romo, but the idea that pass distribution tendencies will always be forced by pressure is absurd. You identify the blitzer(s) and determine where in the scheme the hole(s) may potentially be as a result. Instead of doing this in 2008, Romo has tended to assume it will be Owens or Witten, and when that fails, simply dumps it off to the back for -1 to 3 yards.

Doesn't mean he's a bad quarterback, just means there's a part of his game that just so happens to be bad.

AMEN BROTHER.
 

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Shinywalrus;2518458 said:
Pressure doesn't help, but I hardly think Romo is under pressure than most other QBs.

Look how much pressure Roethlisberger gets on him, more than essentially any quarterback in the league. Yet he delivers, using last week as an example, 7 passes to Ward for 109 and a TD, 5 to Holmes, including a TD, 8 to his TE and a smattering to three other players. He isn't keying on a single guy.

Other teams that get beat on at the line, like New England, have had similar success. Cassel gets a guy on him before he takes his third step, but Gaffney, Moss and Welker are all weapons, all people he looks to.

I'm not saying either of these guys is as talented as Romo, but the idea that pass distribution tendencies will always be forced by pressure is absurd. You identify the blitzer(s) and determine where in the scheme the hole(s) may potentially be as a result. Instead of doing this in 2008, Romo has tended to assume it will be Owens or Witten, and when that fails, simply dumps it off to the back for -1 to 3 yards.

Doesn't mean he's a bad quarterback, just means there's a part of his game that just so happens to be bad.

I was just listening to ESPN radio with Mike Tirico and he said he didn't understand why Dallas traded for RW and DON'T EVEN LOOK HIS WAY EVEN ON AUDIBLES. Interesting that we would say that as I have thought that as well even though I am an #@*#&$(#8. Just repeating what he said for what it is worth.
 

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It's not just his fault. He's been open.

Romo looks for Witten, then Owens.

My mom was sitting there going, "wow I know why Romo's number's look like such crap, he hasn't gotten Witten involved". The next few plays Romo went underneath to Witten and we started rolling.

I think the biggest problem is Garrett's play calling. He kept calling downfield, home run, vertical routes against a defense that was getting really good pressure on the QB. Anytime we went to some shorter stuff, it seemed to work really well.

In a tight defensive game, which this was for about 3 1/2 quarters, you've to to adjust your Offense accordingly. Sure you gotta take some shots downfield, but we hurt ourselves by not going with shorter, quicker routes. There was too many 3rd and longs.

Roy Williams and Choice were pretty much the only players on Offense who showed any passion. Romo looked like he had an aw-shucks attitude the whole game. Witten was definately out there leading by example.

Roy Williams made some big plays though, like that 3rd conversion were he sidestepped inside and got the 1st. And he also made a great play finding a soft spot in the coverage on the roll pass. He's definately showing flashes.

The offense has really underperformed, and I don't think its due to a lack of talent
 

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casmith07;2517803 said:
Give Red Jesus a call, ask him why he can't figure out how to get his players going against opposing defenses.

And then give Wade a call, and ask him why he's not holding his offensive coordinator accountable for making brutal playcalls for 17 weeks.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:
 

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Hey, I dont know the truth bout this Romo-Roy Williams problem, if he looks his way enough or not...

But Im pretty sure that McNabb wouldnt do a better job. He´s a mediocre Qb to me, and if we lose next sunday, it wont be because of him, but because we lose that game.

Mc nabb couldnt do anything with T.O. and a very nice corp on his O (yeah, on his favor, he reached the SB. But then there, NADA).
 

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cowheel;2517886 said:
Romo is the problem.

He just doesn't look for anyone other than Owens and Witten.

It's so puzzling to me that we supposedly have all these weapons....
T.O., Witten, Roy Williams, Crayton, Martellus Bennett, Miles Austin...
and NONE of these guys are gettin' open?????

Either Garrett is not drawing up plays for these other guys...
or Romo just doesn't look their direction.


The O-Line is the problem, Romo is on the run virtually every play of every game. Our line blows in pass protection.
 

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This is Our Year;2518746 said:
The O-Line is the problem, Romo is on the run virtually every play of every game. Our line blows in pass protection.

Though alot of the guys underperformed. I cant believe how pathetic Procter is.

When Kosier was in, our OL looked pretty solid.
 

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This is Our Year;2518746 said:
The O-Line is the problem, Romo is on the run virtually every play of every game. Our line blows in pass protection.


Then it is a Garrett problem. Run a slant and the rush isn't a problem. It would be impossible for a corner to get in position to make a play on a quick slant to RW without either a completion or an interference penalty. Run a screen. Run it with a RB. Well, our rookie RB actually ran for 90 yards against that great defense. Bottom line if true...It should not take professionals 3 + quarters to figure out a defense.
 

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casmith07;2517803 said:
Give Red Jesus a call, ask him why he can't figure out how to get his players going against opposing defenses.

And then give Wade a call, and ask him why he's not holding his offensive coordinator accountable for making brutal playcalls for 17 weeks.

:flagwave:
 

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Billy Bullocks;2518752 said:
Though alot of the guys underperformed. I cant believe how pathetic Procter is.

When Kosier was in, our OL looked pretty solid.

what a load of bullocks!!!
 

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I have no freaking idea why we cant get Roy11 the ball.

We gave up a freaking 1, 3, and 6 to get him and he is like the 3rd or 4th read on every freaking play???

As far as our o-line affecting his production, it is total BS. The freakin Lions have one of the worst o-lines in the league and Roy was getting more balls than here. On top of that, Roy11 had a different QB throwing the ball almost every game.

How the hell did freaking Detroit find a way to get Roy11 the ball and we cant???
 
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