Roy Williams spoke the truth

[Brooksey]

He was asked questions and he answered them. Maybe he should not have but it was already known anyway. JJ bought RW in to take double team pressure off TO and JG never got RW involved! Thats is a fact. I watched every game and it was a pathetic joke. The negative threads on here about RW are worse then ESPN stories. Give me a break. The guy said he wants to be a leader and a good receiver which he is, this is proven. Did he get lazy? Yes. Was he a product of bad practice habits? I think so.

Maybe If JG got him involved and Wade did not run "Cup Cake" practice sessions things would have been different. Maybe we are there instead of Arizona but the fact is when you are NOT involved (in anything) you become disinterested and undisciplined. When you practice sloppy you play sloppy. I think we have seen the worst of RW. I want to see his best. JG needs to tweak this offense and get him involved.

 

[ddh33]

It still shouldn't have been said.

And unfortunately, if Roy is the kind of guy who suddenly quits and doesn't work as hard, isn't that an indictment of him more than anyone else?

I'm holding out hope for Roy Williams. I think he's a very talented guy, and he's going to be needed here. But he doesn't need to act out or speak out.

 

[gimmesix]

He was asked questions and he answered them. Maybe he should not have but it was already known anyway. JJ bought RW in to take double team pressure off TO and JG never got RW involved! Thats is a fact. I watched every game and it was a pathetic joke. The negative threads on here about RW are worse then ESPN stories. Give me a break. The guy said he wants to be a leader and a good receiver which he is, this is proven. Did he get lazy? Yes. Was he a product of bad practice habits? I think so.

Maybe If JG got him involved and Wade did not run "Cup Cake" practice sessions things would have been different. Maybe we are there instead of Arizona but the fact is when you are NOT involved (in anything) you become disinterested and undisciplined. When you practice sloppy you play sloppy. I think we have seen the worst of RW. I want to see his best. JG needs to tweak this offense and get him involved.

He's just among a number of players/coaches on this team who need to shut up and step up.

The public complaints are doing nothing to help this team and everything to fuel the fire.

Don't like the practice habits, take it to the coach.

Don't like the scheme, take it to the offensive coordinator.

Push each other to get better.

 

[DallasEast]

He's just among a number of players/coaches on this team who need to shut up and step up.

The public complaints are doing nothing to help this team and everything to fuel the fire.

Don't like the practice habits, take it to the coach.

Don't like the scheme, take it to the offensive coordinator.

Push each other to get better.

I agree 100%.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I am glad that you brought this up, lets look at facts and things that have happened in the past.

1st 2007 Season- In December, Coach Cupcake Phillips doenst have the players work out in pads at all in December. Now at the same time, the players have to take responsibility too for not working out hard. We all saw the results in late December and in the playoff game against the Giants in Texas Stadium, the cowboys players, especially the offensive line ran out of gas in 3rd and 4th quarters. Even Nate Newton said, you could tell that the offensive linemen didnt do their cardivacular work that bye week or the week leading up to the game.

Next, in 2008, the players dont hit at all in practice in pads for the first 25 days. I know 2 media type personnel that they said, i cant count on my fingers how many times the cowboys hit in practice. Now that right there is saying alot.

Next, this year, you heard Patrick Crayton and a couple of other players say, maybe we need someone to kick our you know what and work us. That right there proves that the players know they need work but they arent getting it in training camp.

Now, as far as to jason garrett, if a head coach doesnt allow hitting in practice because he says all during the season that he wants to save the players legs, which is hogwash.

NOW if a head coach like coach cupcake wade phillips wont let the players hit in practice, and doesnt work them during the season, then how much more could jason garrett work the players, the assistant coach has to do what the head coach says right?

Now at same time, with the owner allowing all of this to happen, he is just as equally at fault to blame.

So, just think about those things before you judge jason garrett, im not saying he isnt to blame, he is to a point, but it all starts with the Owner Jerry Jones and Wade Phillips. When we as fans make Jerry Jones aware through the media that we know this, and are tired of all of the circus, no praticing like the good old jimmy johnson days, etc, then the focus is on Jerry Jones to do something about it.

 

[RoadRunner]

I remember practices in high school where I was in agony from hitting, from sweating, from breathing hard, and still the coaches were all over us in our faces telling us not to dog it.

Sounds like this team needs that kind of practice, because after those kinds of things you are not in any mood to whine about anything. You are ready to take out that weeks practice on your next opponent.

 

[OAM]

He was asked questions and he answered them. Maybe he should not have but it was already known anyway. JJ bought RW in to take double team pressure off TO and JG never got RW involved! Thats is a fact. I watched every game and it was a pathetic joke. The negative threads on here about RW are worse then ESPN stories. Give me a break. The guy said he wants to be a leader and a good receiver which he is, this is proven. Did he get lazy? Yes. Was he a product of bad practice habits? I think so.

Maybe If JG got him involved and Wade did not run "Cup Cake" practice sessions things would have been different. Maybe we are there instead of Arizona but the fact is when you are NOT involved (in anything) you become disinterested and undisciplined. When you practice sloppy you play sloppy. I think we have seen the worst of RW. I want to see his best. JG needs to tweak this offense and get him involved.

Tweak the offense? How about utilize a new philosophy. BALANCE!

 

[Brooksey]

Tweak the offense? How about utilize a new philosophy. BALANCE!

That would be great.

 

[CF74]

Or like run a slant or something.

 

[MWILL]

He's just among a number of players/coaches on this team who need to shut up and step up.

The public complaints are doing nothing to help this team and everything to fuel the fire.

Don't like the practice habits, take it to the coach.

Don't like the scheme, take it to the offensive coordinator.

Push each other to get better.

Public humiliation would be something this team needs.

You just got to hope it'll turn around and prove the HATERS wrong.

 

[OAM]

That would be great.

Can't see how we don't pound the rock and get the ball in Felix Jones hands through the air more. Force safeties to come up to the line instead of roaming over top of the bump coverage. Then get T.O and RW11 1 on 1 with some corners. Witten and Bennett are always going to get their intermediate opportunities against LB's and having them both out there in at least half the sets catching and blocking makes it so possible to initiate balance.

I like Cricket and understand how the FB played a huge role in our 90's Cowboys offenses but I don't see how we have been more successful than not when operating packages that utilized a FB. I think the FB in our offense is completely expendable. Witten is already as capable a blocker at his position and Bennett will get better at it also.

I think we should showcase 2 RB's and 2 TE sets at least 66.666% of our plays. 3 WR + sets 33.333% of the time. More 3 WR sets with Austin in there when we have 2nd and shorts because that's when we can afford to take shots deep and miss. 3rd and 4-5's (2) TE's more often than not because we can both run and pass unexpectingly in those situations. 3rd and 6-10's 3 WR's with Crayton in. 3rd and 11+ 3 WR's with Austin in as apposed to Crayton. Obviously change it up a bit so you're not totally scripted but this should be the base. This will create more familiarity and comfort for the players which ultimately creates good execution.

How many teams defensively can match up with us if we fundamentally approach these situations like this? Especially with an effective running game that can move the ball within and outside the tackles as well catch the ball out of the backfield and gash you for a big play or 2 a game in that regard. When play action is a possibility. When your QB's ability to run the ball 3 decent times a game when he has space comes back into play.

Your LB's have their hands full with 2 very good pass catching TE's who can also isolate you on runs. When your safeties have to come down because they are forced to tackle either a bull runner (Barber) or a shifty back like Felix because everyone else is busy tryig to man their task. Choice is effective at both of course. What happens with corners who consistently have to go 1 on 1 with T.O and RW11 with minimal safety help because the run, flat passes and intermediate routes are always being exposed due to the offensive talent having capable weapons to beat 1 on 1's there.

Teams raher get burned intermediate than deep but not when Felix catches one out of the backfield and takes it deep anyways. Not when Bennett gets into the backfield when the corners and safeties are sucked into double covering T.O, RW11 and Witten. Teams will have to go 1 on 1 on every level eventually if Garrett puts fundamental balance in place, adapts quickly to the defenses counters and utilizes what the defense gives him to expose. This will change many times throughout a game and the players also have to be mentally prepared and accepting of this. Their # may not get called up when 5 other have till the late 3rd quarter.

Garrett needs to make then confident and mentally strong in that regard offensively. There is so much talent offensively no one's production other than Romo can't be reasonably replaced. That even goes for Witten if Bennett can stay focused. There are no problems with Witten crying though. He is the best TE in the game and if he has to ask to be more of a part there is something crazy going on. The WR's you're always going to get that even if they catch 90 passes in the season.

 

[links18]

I agree 100%.

This team just lacks common sense and intelligence. Williams may have been correct, but with all that is going on he just needs to bite his lip and keep it out of the media. Coaches and management also need to step up and help change the culture through example. We haven't seen much of that so far this off season. Instead we get the typical double speak and downright cryptic comments from Jerry, Wade telling the media he has been ordered not to speak by the PR department and Garrett making suggestive comments about TO. Heck, I think Reeves has even had something to say. Just keep it quiet for awhile guys!

 

[DallasEast]

Public humiliation would be something this team needs.

You just got to hope it'll turn around and prove the HATERS wrong.

This is becoming a silly debate point.

Who is the owner and general manager of the Dallas Cowboys?

Exactly how long has he been the owner and general manager of the Dallas Cowboys?

Many more "embarrassing" things have happened during his 20-year ownership of the Dallas Cowboys. Exactly WHEN has anything spoken by a-n-y-o-n-e "embarrassed" him?

Is this line of thinking some sort of reflection on 21st century/reality television thinking? That... you can convert someone's set mentality which has been ingrained over 60+ years by simplying saying something bad on television or radio or quoted in print?

Pipe dream. Sorry.

 

[JonJon]

This team just lacks common sense and intelligence. Williams may have been correct, but with all that is going on he just needs to bite his lip and keep it out of the media. Coaches and management also need to step up and help change the culture through example. We haven't seen much of that so far this off season. Instead we get the typical double speak and downright cryptic comments from Jerry, Wade telling the media he has been ordered not to speak by the PR department and Garrett making suggestive comments about TO. Heck, I think Reeves has even had something to say. Just keep it quiet for awhile guys!

I know it's messed up for players to open there yaps to the media, but you have to ask, why are the players doing this? Please don't give me the, "T.O. is poisoning everyone's minds theory" either, because Roy Williams was vocal about Detroit as well before he even came to Dallas.

I'm starting to believe that the Cowboys management doesn't have a system in place such as a weekly meeting between players and coaches, where players can freely give their input, suggestions, and complaints. There appears to be a blockage in the communication lines between players and coaches which forces the players to use the media as their outlet. Now I am sure that the is a weekly meeting, but I am sure it doesn't allow for players input and is more informative as to "what you the players are doing wrong" instead of "what can we do to get better."

The most successful businesses are built around management that listens to the ones actually doing the dirty work and make adjustments to be more productive. Several instances this year have suggested that this isn't the case in Dallas. You can point to the cornerbacks being forced to play zone coverage early in the season even though the cornerbacks complained and everyone other than the coaches could see that playing soft zone was not a good idea.

Fast forward to later in the season, and pretty much all the wide receivers and even the quarterback where complaining about the system not putting the players in place to have the most success.

The coaches and management need to start listening more. You can still have a disciplined team while still listening to the players and making adjustments. But the sytem has to be in place.

 

[Bleu Star]

Private discussions netted nothing. Not even a slant. So get it aired out in public and move on. The thick skinned will survive while the thin skinned can get the **** away from VR.

 

[5Stars]

Private discussions netted nothing. Not even a slant. So get it aired out in public and move on. The thick skinned will survive while the thin skinned can get the **** away from VR.

Great solution, brainiac! Like the "public" can change things?

Dude! Sit down!


:laugh2:

 

[EveryoneElse]

Roy E. Williams has a big mouth

TO has a big mouth


Only difference is one of the two puts up 1000 yards and 10+ Tds every year, while the other guy catches 1.8 footballs a game.

Which one do you cut?

I say neither.

 

[Bleu Star]

Great solution, brainiac! Like the "public" can change things?

Dude! Sit down!


:laugh2:

Do you have an inferiority complex or something? Napoleon? That you? What's with the sit down? Is that your "thing"? :

 

[5Stars]

Do you have an inferiority complex or something? Napoleon? That you? What's with the sit down? Is that your "thing"? :

If 20 people tell you that you are drunk, you need to sit down.

If 20 people say "the player" should roll, then he needs kicked to the curb.

So, yeah, that's my "thang, dog"! Twenty people are saying "the player" should scoot, yet here you are (with one or two others) praising every move "the playa" says or does.

Sit down, bro...your dizzy!!

 

[Bleu Star]

If 20 people tell you that you are drunk, you need to sit down.

If 20 people say "the player" should roll, then he needs kicked to the curb.

So, yeah, that's my "thang, dog"! Twenty people are saying "the player" should scoot, yet here you are (with one or two others) praising every move "the playa" says or does.

Sit down, bro...your dizzy!!

I'm sitting down just because you asked me to 1200 times.

Lame schtick you got there "dog".