Rules on Eligibility Reporting

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It was a bad call. No worse than the call on Hendershot that changed the way Dallas played the last series.

it was the correct call. detroit tried to pull a fast one and they lost that gamble. shows the lengths to which Campbell is willng to go

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

3 lions reported to the ref before the play.

Jumbo package.

three lions were with the ref. one reported and thus right after the ref made the call. they tried to confuse dallas, hoping one of the players would miss the announcement.

 

[TheHerd]

so why are people talking and making it seem like it was a bad call from the refs, if it was wrong then it's wrong

Because it benefited Dallas. Bias is rampant.

 

[buybuydandavis]

I'll believe a headcoach

All the people with their panties in a bunch over this are *guaranteeing* facts not in evidence.

He "guarantees" Campbell went over this play with the refs. Might even be true. If so, it's curious that Campbell didn't mention this in his press conference. Did Campbell go over other plays where Sewell was the one eligible too? Again, facts not in evidence.

And no matter what you "went over" pre game, the ref was *perfectly* clear to the world who he thought the Lions wanted as their eligible player.

 

[MarcusRock]

of course. just like fans of any other team. what's the matter with that? what's wrong with you? unhappy the cowboys won?

I'm absolutely giddy the Cowboys won because we won in a fashion the "refs are out to get us crew" would scream from the mountain tops as PROOF of the mastermind scheme against us. Same for the Philly game. The only pissed off people are "refs are out to get us" people who are being pointed out as now being diehard ref backers just like they accuse me of being when I merely point out where they have gotten things right when accused of wrong. Glad to have the company now, lol.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Lions didn’t have a timeout.

Play clock was running.

They reported.

Rigged.

are you unhappy dallas won? I don't see you call it rigged when Parsons goes 42 quartrers without a holding call of players who are trying to block him. yet here you are.


Lions screwed up. the refs for a change got it right. it would have been a tragedy if they didn't call it.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So 70 was clearly running towards the huddle?

Really?

so why did the ref announce #70 as eligible? if it was wrong, then why didn't the lions correct him? they all Knew the play, the coach called the play. your assertion makes no sense.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I’d say the video I posted is fairly irrefutable. The ref announced it. In stadium. Why wouldn’t 68 try to correct the ref if they got it wrong?

not just 68. but 10 other players, including QB as well as several coaches on the sideline including head coach.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Detroit got everything they wanted except the ref falling for it and not enforcing a penalty. They wanted 70 announced so that Dallas would cover 68. They created all the confusion to specifically make that happen. What they wanted was the refs to 2nd guess themselves after the fact and not call the penalty thinking they made a mistake. They didn’t fall for it and Detroits cheating scheme has been exposed. There was no mistake made by any official on that play.

I tend not to think they were trying to confuse the refs. Maybe confuse the Cowboys with multiple players at the refs.
Confusing the refs is just a bad plan. They had the ball at the 2. That's about a 50-50 play. They'd have to execute *and* get the call from the refs. Much more straight forward just to call a play you think will work.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

that is not proof of what you claim. If this is the best you can do I am fine with that.

why are you so Anti-cowboy?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

SInce the ref crew is being demoted from playoff coverage and I expect there's going to be an apology statement to Detroit from the NFL head office by midweek..

I expect an apology for the fanthom tripping call that instead of 2nd and 3, put us in 1st and 25 situation. if we don't get that, I am going to be pissed off!

 

[buybuydandavis]

10 pages trying to rationalize that "the refs" made a mistake that benefitted the Cowboys.

After all, if you admit then you can't make anti-Cowboys ref conspiracy threads anymore.

A failure to communicate is not simply a mistake of the listener.
The ref *communicated back* to the world how he interpreted the communication. I don't know what more he could have done.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Why is it so hard to fathom that the ref could have made a mistake yet easy to believe that Detroit had no idea who was to be the eligible player?

its that detroit knew exactly what was the play and who was eligible. the ref announced it. 11 players on the field including QB who is going to throw the ball should have corrected the ref. nobody did. head coach didn't. bunch of other coaches and assistant on the sideline. no one made any move, or action to correct the ref. detroit did this knowingly. they knew. they were hoping for confusion. they lost that gamble. it was stupid of them. end of story

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

You do NOT think the tripping call on Hendershot when it was clearly the Lions defender was egregious? (The Lions player kicked his legs out like he was doing jumping jacks) This muffed call on the wrong player/team went from Cowboys ball on the 10 to 15 yard line to 1st and 25 around the 40 or 45 yard line. Sounds egregious to me

 

[buybuydandavis]

They were trying to confuse the Cowboys.

Yeah. Doesn't make sense to confuse the refs when you already have a 4th and 2.
But they were trying to confuse the Cowboys.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

you mean be clairvoyant to know what Allen would say until it was announced? at that point isn't the play clock running and weren't they out of timeouts? Correcting it isn't quite as easy as if that is the case wouldn't you agree?

When you say right in front of him, you do realize the ref sprinted away from 58 & 68? They didn't walk away from him & 70 never even got there.

As I said multiple times last night, whatever mistakes Detroit may have made (formation, etc.) isn't the point. It's a simple question of did the ref make a mistake. The immediate reactions last night & continued discussion today strongly indicates that a lot of folks found the whole situation to be questionable.

if you say the ref made a mistake. there was plenty of chances and time for any one from detroit to correct it. the question is why didn't they? thus one must assume it was the correct call made by ref, given there was ZERO reaction from detroit.

 

[buybuydandavis]

If this were reversed, Dallas fans would be hyper-blaming the refs as crooked and out to get them, the opposite of vehemently defending them like they're doing now.

Because they would be *correct*.
You just can't have a play where the wrong player is communicated as eligible to *both* teams.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

A failure to communicate is not simply a mistake of the listener.
The ref *communicated back* to the world how he interpreted the communication. I don't know what more he could have done.

or a purposeful miscommunication from the one delivering the message properly in a manner to cause confusion, sometime purposefuly.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Can you fathom facts???

The headcoach knows the play that's called..right?
The players know what play is called since they practiced it all week, season, right?
The players, since they know the play call know their assignments on that play, right?
The player 70 who knows he's the blocker isn't going to report as an eligible reciever then, right?
The headcoach always notify the refs prior to the game they could use this particular play if they need two points conversion..right?

but 68 who is one foot in front of the refs face talking to him, but somehow in the GRAND conspiracy you think 70 who certainly knows the play and his assignment which is blocking on the play tells the ref he's eligible when he's not???? and has10 yards and with two players between him and the ref who is already headed to the defensive line and 70 clearly is talking to 68 with his arm around his waist and then walks to the line ...

so why would the ref call #70 and announce it, if 68 is talking to him? did the ref get the wrong number? why didn't anyone from detroit correct the ref and the announcement? the QB specially since he knows the play and what is to transpire? why didn't the head coach say anything, have any reaction since he is the one calling the play?

you are incorrect sir.

 

[MarcusRock]

Because they would be *correct*.
You just can't have a play where the wrong player is communicated as eligible to *both* teams.

They'd be correct that the refs are out to get them?