Rumor: Bill Cowher

[Avaj]

Does anyone have the Insider on ESPN?? I keep reading tweets that Cowher considering coaching in Florida. Can anyone provide any details to the rumor?

TIA

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Would have to be Jacksonville.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

Would have to be Jacksonville.

I think Jacksonville is going to be the next team to relocate, likely to LA when the new stadium is built.

 

[Hostile]

I'll be shocked if he's not offered the job in Carolina. I think Fox is gone.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I'll be shocked if he's not offered the job in Carolina. I think Fox is gone.

I think Fox is an excellent coach. I know many do not think very highly of him but I do. If you give him a decent QB and a running game, he will win games. JMO

 

[Hoofbite]

I think Fox is an excellent coach. I know many do not think very highly of him but I do. If you give him a decent QB and a running game, he will win games. JMO

Give me a decent QB and a running game and I'll tally a few.

 

[casmith07]

Changing of the guard in the NFL...Cowher won't do much if hired. Leave 'em in the recycling bin.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I think Fox is an excellent coach. I know many do not think very highly of him but I do. If you give him a decent QB and a running game, he will win games. JMO

They have the running game but the qb is turrible.

 

[InmanRoshi]

There's going to be a lot of HC's that get fired are good 4-3 defensive coordinators ... Fisher, Fox, Del Rio, Dick Jauron and possibly Lovie Smith. If Wade is fired after this year, I would be really tempted to take advantage of the under valued 4-3 talent in both players and coaches next year and make the switch in the offseason if we get an offensive minded HC. I'm assuming Spears is a goner.

 

[Jon88]

Changing of the guard in the NFL...Cowher won't do much if hired. Leave 'em in the recycling bin.

I want to see him remain on that horrible crew at CBS.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There's going to be a lot of HC's that get fired are good 4-3 defensive coordinators ... Fisher, Fox, Del Rio, Dick Jauron and possibly Lovie Smith. If Wade is fired after this year, I would be really tempted to take advantage of the under valued 4-3 talent in both players and coaches next year and make the switch in the offseason if we get an offensive minded HC. I'm assuming Spears is a goner.

Well Rosh,

I'm with you. If we did go to the 43, that would take care of our LB issue. I think Carpenter would be an outstanding OLB fit in a 43. Spencer could easily add a 10 lbs and play Strong DE in a 43. Ware would be a beast as the Weakside DE.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Well Rosh,

I'm with you. If we did go to the 43, that would take care of our LB issue. I think Carpenter would be an outstanding OLB fit in a 43. Spencer could easily add a 10 lbs and play Strong DE in a 43. Ware would be a beast as the Weakside DE.

What would we do with Bradie? He's not a MLB in the 4-3 and he was terrible as an OLB in 4-3.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What would we do with Bradie? He's not a MLB in the 4-3 and he was terrible as an OLB in 4-3.

I think Bradie could play MLB or strong side LB in a 43. Bradie is much better now then he was 3 or 4 years ago.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I think he played his best football as an OLB in a 43. He would fit perfictely in a Tony Dungy defense. He is the same kind of player Brooks is. As an OLB playing in space in a 43, he could be exceptional. In fact, I think that may be the only place he can play.

You must be thinking of a different player. James was terrible in the 4-3 plus making Ware a DE takes away his speed advantage.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Bradie even played weakside 4-3 OLB his first two seasons in Dallas. Bradie could easily be a MLB in a 4-3, he would just be a 2 down one (Heck, if Fred Strickland and Jeremiah Trotter can start for 10 years at the position it doesn't exactly take an Olympic Sprinter) .

 

[InmanRoshi]

You must be thinking of a different player. James was terrible in the 4-3 plus making Ware a DE takes away his speed advantage.

Yeah, because Dwight Freeney and Simeon Rice really had their speed negated playing in the 4-3.

You do realize when Dallas currently goes to nickel sets Ware plays in a 4 man line with his hand on the ground in obviously passing situations, right?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Bradie even played weakside 4-3 OLB his first two seasons in Dallas. Bradie could easily be a MLB in a 4-3, he would just be a 2 down one (Heck, if Fred Strickland and Jeremiah Trotter can start for 10 years at the position it doesn't exactly take an Olympic Sprinter) .

His speed wasn't the issue. He was out of position. Maybe he could be a MLB but then what do we do with Brooking?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Yeah, because Dwight Freeney and Simeon Rice really had their speed negated playing in the 4-3.

You do realize when Dallas currently goes to nickel sets Ware plays in a 4 man line with his hand on the ground in obviously passing situations, right?

We'll have to agree to disagree I guess because I don't see where we have the players to go back to a 4-3.

 

[jterrell]

Well Rosh,

I'm with you. If we did go to the 43, that would take care of our LB issue. I think Carpenter would be an outstanding OLB fit in a 43. Spencer could easily add a 10 lbs and play Strong DE in a 43. Ware would be a beast as the Weakside DE.

No way. Spencer is awful now versus the run most times. It's hilarious that the coaching staff used that to prop him up when he was sackless because the guy gets abused out there. If we go 4-3 we'd have to use Bowen or Hatcher out there and draft a guy. Spencer could back up Ware at Weakside end. Snelling ran right past Spencer all day Sunday. Spencer get's blown out of the hole.

Carpenter isn't a decent LB anywhere on 1st and 2nd down. He just isn't an aggressive tackler. He's a solid nickel backer because he can cover.

We could be a 4-3 but it would be after serious personnel tweaking. Right now we have 1 Quick 4-3 DT and that's Ratliff and 1 legit 4-3 end in Ware who is better as an OLB because he gets so much wider.

For a 4-3 you want about 8 good DL, not 3-5.

Bradie isn't really fast enough to play in a 4-3. Brooking isn't as good in a 4-3 either. Our LB corps would be pretty bad in a 4-3.

 

[jterrell]

Yeah, because Dwight Freeney and Simeon Rice really had their speed negated playing in the 4-3.

You do realize when Dallas currently goes to nickel sets Ware plays in a 4 man line with his hand on the ground in obviously passing situations, right?

And you do realize the nickel isn't the 4-3 right?

In the nickel the DL is purely pass rushing not trying to hold up against the run.
Totally different thing. Ware could do it because he is good enough to do most things but it wouldn't be his best position.

Freeney would probably be better served as a 3-4 OLB. Ware had 22 sacks last year, Freeney had 19.5 from 2006-2008. That beating of a DE takes a toll on smaller guys.

Simeon Rice was fortunate enough to play on some really good Tampa DLs and had Derrick Brooks behind him, but no one ever accused Simeon of being a run stopper.