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[Rampage]

You're wrong. I live in the Phila market and have probably seen more McNabb games than most here.

Trust me when I tell you that McNabb is not as well thought of locally as he is nationally.

The reason is he is a classic ESPN highlight player. He makes some great plays. He's hard to bring down and has made a lot of plays with his legs. He also has a big arm. He makes throws most QB's can't.

But he's very inconsistent. Especially with his accuracy. It must be frustrating to be a fan of his. He makes some amazingly accurate throws, so you know he can do it. You just never know what you're going to get with him game to game, quarter to quarter.

It's funny. The Romo/McNabb debate reminds me of the Aikman/Cunningham debates I had in 1990 and 91.

I think in 5 years we'll see it one sided.

that's cause Philly fans are terrible. they gave McNabb a solid o-line, a rb who's more like a wr and they tell him to make something happen. If we switched qbs the eagles would finish 3rd or 4th and we would constantly be a superbowl contender. It's really funny how people on this site could be so down on McNabb yet think Romo of all people is better. maybe one day Tony will be but he has a pretty long way to go imo. one thing that isn't said enough is McNabb doesn't turn the ball over much with the non talent he has at wr and te.

 

[Randy White]

If the season started today, the Cowboys are battling the Skins for 3rd place in the East. Eagles and Giants better at moment.

At the moment, NO receiver for the Giants starts in Dallas. None.

At the moment, the Eagles don't have a LT that's worth a damn, and have lost their defensive leader. Not to mention their starting RT as well.

At the moment, the Cowboys are more talented than any other team in the NFC East. That doesn't mean they're a better " team " nor that they're going to win anything just on talent alone. What it does mean is that, at the moment, the Cowboys have just as good a shot as anybody to win the division.

 

[CF74]

Most over rated wr ever..

 

[silverbear]

thank you!:laugh2: I'm not writing anybody off or dogging anybody. I think Mcnabb is a better qb that's all.

Maybe McNabb used to be better than Romo is now, but he's not any more... the numbers prove that... here's a comparison of their last 3 seasons (the only seasons that Romo has played):

Games started-- Romo 40, McNabb 40... but Romo only became a starter 5 games into the 06 season, so he's actually only missed 3 games to injury, compared to McNabb's 8 games missed... so Romo is more durable... more important, we have a nearly identical set of stats to evaluate and compare the two...

Completion percentage-- Romo 63.6, McNabb 60.0... advantage, Romo...

Yards Per Attempt-- Romo 8.1, McNabb 7.3... big advantage to Romo...

TD passes-- Romo 81 (2.0 per game), McNabb 60 (1.5 per game)... advantage, Romo...

Interceptions-- Romo 46 (1.2 per game), McNabb 24 (.6 per game)... big advantage to McNabb here...

Fumbles Lost-- Romo 12 (.3 per game), McNabb 12 (.3 per game)... push...

Quarterback Rating-- Romo 94.7, McNabb 89.7... advantage, Romo...

Romo has averaged 264.5 yards per game passing, McNabb has averaged 247.2... this even though McNabb has thrown the ball 34.0 times per game, while Romo has only thrown it 32.7 times per game... advantage, Romo...

Romo is 27-13 in his 40 NFL starts, McNabb is 22-18 over his last 40 starts... advantage, Romo...

The Cowboys have averaged 26.4 points per game in Romo's 40 starts, the Iggles have averaged 23.7 points per game in McNabb's last 40 starts... advantage, Romo...

So, in 10 major passing/offensive categories, Romo has the edge in 8, McNabb has the edge in just ONE (interception percentage), and the 10th category is a push (fumbles lost)... and before you go to claiming that Donnie was at a disadvantage because of his receivers, realize that he had a pair of important offsetting advantages in his superior offensive line, and his superior running game (the Iggles averaged 117.8 yards per game and 4.5 yards per carry over the last 3 seasons, the Boys averaged 112.6 yards per game and 4.2 yards per carry)...

Clearly, your opinion about McNabb vs. Romo is not rooted in anything FACTUAL, because the numbers clearly show that Tony has been better than Donnie has... the only area in which McNabb enjoys an edge is he's been less turnover prone... that's not an insignificant stat, but again, it's the ONLY area in which McNabb enjoys an edge...

No, Rampage, Donovan McNabb is clearly NOT a better quarterback than Tony Romo is, at this point in time... and given the age of the two, it's likely that the edge Romo enjoys will only grow in the next couple-three years...

And I'm not dogging McNabb either, his numbers really aren't bad at all... they just aren't as good as Tony's...

 

[silverbear]

At least wait until after the draft to make statements like this...

Yeah, what a "realist" Joe is... I mean, what could be more "realistic" than predicting the Cowboys to finish 3rd in the East in APRIL?? Never mind that we don't even know who will be on the roster come opening day, Joey can tell us how they're gonna do already... it's a wonder that he's not getting paid for his obviously brilliant insight into the game of football...

Why is it that the most annoying pessimists always call their relentlessly negative opinions "realistic"??

 

[Idgit]

Rampage owned.

:laugh2: How? He;s actually got a good point about the playoff wins..

Maybe McNabb used to be better than Romo is now, but he's not any more... the numbers prove that... here's a comparison of their last 3 seasons (the only seasons that Romo has played):

Games started-- Romo 40, McNabb 40... but Romo only became a starter 5 games into the 06 season, so he's actually only missed 3 games to injury, compared to McNabb's 8 games missed... so Romo is more durable... more important, we have a nearly identical set of stats to evaluate and compare the two...

Completion percentage-- Romo 63.6, McNabb 60.0... advantage, Romo...

Yards Per Attempt-- Romo 8.1, McNabb 7.3... big advantage to Romo...

TD passes-- Romo 81 (2.0 per game), McNabb 60 (1.5 per game)... advantage, Romo...

Interceptions-- Romo 46 (1.2 per game), McNabb 24 (.6 per game)... big advantage to McNabb here...

Fumbles Lost-- Romo 12 (.3 per game), McNabb 12 (.3 per game)... push...

Quarterback Rating-- Romo 94.7, McNabb 89.7... advantage, Romo...

Romo has averaged 264.5 yards per game passing, McNabb has averaged 247.2... this even though McNabb has thrown the ball 34.0 times per game, while Romo has only thrown it 32.7 times per game... advantage, Romo...

Romo is 27-13 in his 40 NFL starts, McNabb is 22-18 over his last 40 starts... advantage, Romo...

The Cowboys have averaged 26.4 points per game in Romo's 40 starts, the Iggles have averaged 23.7 points per game in McNabb's last 40 starts... advantage, Romo...

So, in 10 major passing/offensive categories, Romo has the edge in 8, McNabb has the edge in just ONE (interception percentage), and the 10th category is a push (fumbles lost)... and before you go to claiming that Donnie was at a disadvantage because of his receivers, realize that he had a pair of important offsetting advantages in his superior offensive line, and his superior running game (the Iggles averaged 117.8 yards per game and 4.5 yards per carry over the last 3 seasons, the Boys averaged 112.6 yards per game and 4.2 yards per carry)...

Clearly, your opinion about McNabb vs. Romo is not rooted in anything FACTUAL, because the numbers clearly show that Tony has been better than Donnie has... the only area in which McNabb enjoys an edge is he's been less turnover prone... that's not an insignificant stat, but again, it's the ONLY area in which McNabb enjoys an edge...

No, Rampage, Donovan McNabb is clearly NOT a better quarterback than Tony Romo is, at this point in time... and given the age of the two, it's likely that the edge Romo enjoys will only grow in the next couple-three years...

And I'm not dogging McNabb either, his numbers really aren't bad at all... they just aren't as good as Tony's...

Ready to concede that Rampage has been owned yet, SLATE?

Anybody who says Romo is better than McNabb is crazy...

Talk this nonsense to me once Romo's benched for his performance.

 

[Dhragon]

that's cause Philly fans are terrible. they gave McNabb a solid o-line, a rb who's more like a wr and they tell him to make something happen. If we switched qbs the eagles would finish 3rd or 4th and we would constantly be a superbowl contender. It's really funny how people on this site could be so down on McNabb yet think Romo of all people is better. maybe one day Tony will be but he has a pretty long way to go imo. one thing that isn't said enough is McNabb doesn't turn the ball over much with the non talent he has at wr and te.

So Philly fans are terrible because they can't see how uber McNabb is like you can, but you are not a terrible fan even though you seem to be doing the exact same thing with Romo?

 

[Clove]

That is your opinion, cool?

How long has McChoke been a starter? How long has Romo been a starter?

And my opnion is that Romo will prove to be better by the time he spends playing as much as McPuke. But, keep dogging Romo...no big deal.

Trying to compare the two is down right disrespectful to McNabb. He's been whipping up on our Cowboys, so I guess now all we can do is compare him by using hopes and dreams and not reality. All teams have fans living in a bubble, we just happen to have the most.

 

[Longboysfan]

Pair him with what they already have and McNabb will have plenty of weapons.

But will they get him the ball enough.

 

[silverbear]

Ready to concede that Rampage has been owned yet, SLATE?

Actually, I never intended to "own" him, merely to "school" him...

But if I accidentally did wind up owning him, you have my solemn pledge that I'll release him back into the wild just as soon as he's healed up...

This is no small sacrifice on my part, I'd be astounded if Rampage is housebroken...

 

[silverbear]

Trying to compare the two is down right disrespectful to McNabb. .

Guess you missed my statistical analysis earlier in this thread... if anything, the comparison is disrespectful to Romo, not Donnie...

I'm talking about McNabb NOW, not McNabb 5 or 6 years ago... I think I've shown pretty conclusively that in the last 3 seasons, when both have started 40 games, Romo has put up the better numbers, and won more games...

Beyond that, your claim that McNabb has been better against Romo is simply not rooted in fact either... McNabb and Romo have gone head to head 4 times, each of them winning twice...

And for the statistical head to head:

McNabb-- 87 of 145 (60.0 per cent) for 928 yards (232 yards per game, 6.4 yards per attempt)... 5 TDs, 2 ints... quarterback rating of 69.0... his most prolific passing game of the 4, he went for 281 yards...

Romo-- 75 of 120 (62.5 per cent) for 1033 yards (258.3 yards per game, 8.6 yards per attempt)... 6 TDs, 6 ints... quarterback rating of 85.9... Romo had 2 games over 300 yards (300,312)... curiously, he also threw 3 ints in each game, obviously none in the two losses... you don't see that every day...

Anyway, what were you saying about comparing McNabb and Romo was an insult to Donnie?? The truth is, Romo is the better quarterback today, at this point in time... he hasn't done what McNabb did a few years ago, but that was then, this is now...

McNabb is still a good quarterback, Romo's better... that's just the facts of this situation... sorry, bud, but you clearly have a selective memory when it comes to the head to head matchups of McNabb and Romo...

It really is interesting, what the stats can tell you... I've had more than a few of my own preconceived notions ripped to shreds by them...

 

[Woods]

Guess you missed my statistical analysis earlier in this thread... if anything, the comparison is disrespectful to Romo, not Donnie...

I'm talking about McNabb NOW, not McNabb 5 or 6 years ago... I think I've shown pretty conclusively that in the last 3 seasons, when both have started 40 games, Romo has put up the better numbers, and won more games...

Beyond that, your claim that McNabb has been better against Romo is simply not rooted in fact either... McNabb and Romo have gone head to head 4 times, each of them winning twice...

And for the statistical head to head:

McNabb-- 87 of 145 (60.0 per cent) for 928 yards (232 yards per game, 6.4 yards per attempt)... 5 TDs, 2 ints... quarterback rating of 69.0... his most prolific passing game of the 4, he went for 281 yards...

Romo-- 75 of 120 (62.5 per cent) for 1033 yards (258.3 yards per game, 8.6 yards per attempt)... 6 TDs, 6 ints... quarterback rating of 85.9... Romo had 2 games over 300 yards (300,312)... curiously, he also threw 3 ints in each game, obviously none in the two losses... you don't see that every day...

Anyway, what were you saying about comparing McNabb and Romo was an insult to Donnie?? The truth is, Romo is the better quarterback today, at this point in time... he hasn't done what McNabb did a few years ago, but that was then, this is now...

McNabb is still a good quarterback, Romo's better... that's just the facts of this situation... sorry, bud, but you clearly have a selective memory when it comes to the head to head matchups of McNabb and Romo...

It really is interesting, what the stats can tell you... I've had more than a few of my own preconceived notions ripped to shreds by them...

You're on a roll.

:laugh2:

 

[silverbear]

You're on a roll.

:laugh2:

Blame it all on my inner smart***...

He's gotten me punched out more than once...

 

[Clove]

Guess you missed my statistical analysis earlier in this thread... if anything, the comparison is disrespectful to Romo, not Donnie...

I'm talking about McNabb NOW, not McNabb 5 or 6 years ago... I think I've shown pretty conclusively that in the last 3 seasons, when both have started 40 games, Romo has put up the better numbers, and won more games...

Beyond that, your claim that McNabb has been better against Romo is simply not rooted in fact either... McNabb and Romo have gone head to head 4 times, each of them winning twice...

And for the statistical head to head:

McNabb-- 87 of 145 (60.0 per cent) for 928 yards (232 yards per game, 6.4 yards per attempt)... 5 TDs, 2 ints... quarterback rating of 69.0... his most prolific passing game of the 4, he went for 281 yards...

Romo-- 75 of 120 (62.5 per cent) for 1033 yards (258.3 yards per game, 8.6 yards per attempt)... 6 TDs, 6 ints... quarterback rating of 85.9... Romo had 2 games over 300 yards (300,312)... curiously, he also threw 3 ints in each game, obviously none in the two losses... you don't see that every day...

Anyway, what were you saying about comparing McNabb and Romo was an insult to Donnie?? The truth is, Romo is the better quarterback today, at this point in time... he hasn't done what McNabb did a few years ago, but that was then, this is now...

McNabb is still a good quarterback, Romo's better... that's just the facts of this situation... sorry, bud, but you clearly have a selective memory when it comes to the head to head matchups of McNabb and Romo...

It really is interesting, what the stats can tell you... I've had more than a few of my own preconceived notions ripped to shreds by them...

Wake up my friend, I know most fans have been asleep around these parts for years. Romo is not even in the same class as McNabb. Comparing Romo to McNabb is like comparing beef jerky to a steak. Stop doing it, stop all the nonsense, for the sake of all that is good, just stop it.

 

[NeonNinja]

Nothing to see here, just Silverbear owning Clove, err Judas, or wait a sec I meant the play by play for TO's jock.

 

[SMCowboy]

Comparing players JUST on Super Bowl and playoff wins is hardly a good measure. While lets not forget that McNabb has also had one of the leagues better defense's on his team, while our defense has been nothing but average at best for a while.

Who would you take as your QB Eli Manning to Dan Marino. Eli Manning does have a superbowl win while Marino only made it one time in his career.....

I will still take Marino without a doubt.....

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Until it's official, I don't believe it! I've seen too many quality wide receivers literally slip through the proverbial fingers of our GM. Relax ...it isn't going to happen!

But if it does, I'm going to get excited. Speaking strictly from the Eagles offensive side of the ball, we have someone who can deliver the ball beyond average; someone to run the ball beyond average; someone who can punch the ball in and move the chains ...all we need is someone other than Curtis and Jackson who can spread the field out and is a long ball threat.

That's why I'm saying ...it's too good to be true. I'm not buying into it.

Thanks for the thought.

PT

 

[AmishCowboy]

:cop:

Nothing to see here, just Silverbear owning Clove, err Judas, or wait a sec I meant the play by play for TO's jock.

Move along, nothing to see here but a beat down!.

 

[EPL0c0]

if McNabb couldn't handle TO taking away his spotlight...

 

[silverbear]

Wake up my friend, I know most fans have been asleep around these parts for years. Romo is not even in the same class as McNabb. Comparing Romo to McNabb is like comparing beef jerky to a steak. Stop doing it, stop all the nonsense, for the sake of all that is good, just stop it.

A theory that cannot be supported factually is worthless... you have offered nothing factual to support yours, I have offered a considerable amount of evidence to rebut it...

You lose...

I suspect you're used to hearing that...