RUMOR: Duckett says Portis seriously injured

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Just passing along what I read on ExtremeSkins.

Portis rumor

Heard on sporting news radio this morning that Ducket said Portis was seriously injured and won't be starting for a while. Don't know what to make of that just passing on the info.
 

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Man, if true they'll be lucky to land 3rd place in the division.

I still say relying on Duckett to be the guy until Portis gets back is a proposition I wouldn't want.

There are so many RBs I'd take over him it's not funny.
 

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Hostile said:
Man, if true they'll be lucky to land 3rd place in the division.

I still say relying on Duckett to be the guy until Portis gets back is a proposition I wouldn't want.

There are so many RBs I'd take over him it's not funny.

Hos,

In your opinion, is Stephen Davis Better than Duckett?
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Hos,

In your opinion, is Stephen Davis Better than Duckett?
Prime versus prime no doubt about it. Stephen Davis is past his prime. I don't think Duckett knows prime beyond a steak.

I'd take Duckett over Davis if they were both free to sign. I wouldn't give up 2 Draft picks for either guy.
 

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Any chance someone could post the "article" or rumor?

I can't access it from ES
 

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Hostile said:
Prime versus prime no doubt about it. Stephen Davis is past his prime. I don't think Duckett knows prime beyond a steak.

I'd take Duckett over Davis if they were both free to sign. I wouldn't give up 2 Draft picks for either guy.

:laugh2:
 

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Prime versus prime no doubt about it. Stephen Davis is past his prime. I don't think Duckett knows prime beyond a steak.

I'd take Duckett over Davis if they were both free to sign. I wouldn't give up 2 Draft picks for either guy.

Looks like Dallas will get a chance to see both players up close like this season. it'll be interesting to see what they've got still left in them.
 

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stasheroo said:
Any chance someone could post the "article" or rumor?

I can't access it from ES

I added the quote to the OP.
 

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Hostile said:
Prime versus prime no doubt about it. Stephen Davis is past his prime. I don't think Duckett knows prime beyond a steak.
:lmao: :starspin
Hostile said:
I'd take Duckett over Davis if they were both free to sign. I wouldn't give up 2 Draft picks for either guy.

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I really don't think Ducket is knowledgeable on the topic . . .

Clinton's injury is what it is . . . and he's already back practicing, albeit with no pads.

I'm sure he'll be playing in week one.

There is a logic behind the Ducket trade . . . I don't know what it is . . . but I'm confident it isn't because Portis is in danger of missing a lot of time . . .
 

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eh, I'm sure Portis will probably be out there week one.. if not, then they will be hurting.. I think that Duckett is a great backup RB, and a great short yardage RB, but he is a definite downgrade from Portis.. I think it was a good pickup for the Commanders in that he will make their team better and deeper, but no way would I have given up what they gave up for him..
 

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A star RB with an injured shoulder before they even play the first game isn't a good way to start the season. That will be a problem for him all year and teams will target him. Portis isn't known for being the most durable RB in the league.

I may be wrong, but I don't think you make that trade unless you are a little bit desperate.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Portis have a shoulder problem last year that he re-aggravated in the playoff game against TB?

I remember him getting hurt in that game and missing most of it and I'm pretty sure it was a shoulder injury.
 

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EMMITTnROY said:
eh, I'm sure Portis will probably be out there week one.. if not, then they will be hurting.. I think that Duckett is a great backup RB, and a great short yardage RB, but he is a definite downgrade from Portis.. I think it was a good pickup for the Commanders in that he will make their team better and deeper, but no way would I have given up what they gave up for him..

I'm not sure about Portis' health. If he was 100%, there wouldn't be a need for Duckett.

I also wouldn't call Duckett a "great" anything. He's never played up to his draft status and averaged a mere 3.1 yards per carry in the league's best rush offense last season.

I don't see the Commanders as much better off having Duckett over Betts. I though Betts was as good a backup running back.

I think they got hosed on the deal.
 

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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Portis have a shoulder problem last year that he re-aggravated in the playoff game against TB?

Portis was suffering through reoccuring shoulder and stinger problems at the end of last year. He also had a shoulder injury to the other arm in high school that required surgery.

The Commanders also realize they must run the ball more effectively than they did Saturday -- when the offense mustered only 120 total yards -- and Portis hopes to be able to carry a bigger load. He has a minor nerve injury in one shoulder and soreness in the other, and also is dealing with an injured wrist that might require offseason surgery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/08/AR2006010800371.html?nav=hcmodule

Let's not forget that Dat Nguyen had to retire from chronic shoulder and stinger problems. Shoulder injuries for high impact positions like runningback and linebacker are nothing to sneeze at.
 

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EMMITTnROY said:
eh, I'm sure Portis will probably be out there week one.. if not, then they will be hurting.. I think that Duckett is a great backup RB, and a great short yardage RB, but he is a definite downgrade from Portis.. I think it was a good pickup for the Commanders in that he will make their team better and deeper, but no way would I have given up what they gave up for him..

Yes, Ducket is a downgrade from Portis, but as a backup to Portis, the Skins now have a good 1-2 punch. Signing Ducket basically tells us the other RBs on the Skins roster are useless spares, because if they were useful then the Skins would not have bothered with Ducket and given up so much for him. The NFL has become a 2-back league and with only Portis, the Skins only had one. I also think Portis may be injured more than the Skins are letting on. Portis may play come week-1 but I have a feeling Ducket will be spelling him a good while.

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thats great, i picked Portis in my FF draft with the 10th pick, and he had to go injury himself, i knew better than to pick a skin in the 1st round.
 

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I'm not sure about Portis' health. If he was 100%, there wouldn't be a need for Duckett.

I also wouldn't call Duckett a "great" anything. He's never played up to his draft status and averaged a mere 3.1 yards per carry in the league's best rush offense last season.

I don't see the Commanders as much better off having Duckett over Betts. I though Betts was as good a backup running back.

I think they got hosed on the deal.
I agree they got hosed, I said that I wouldn't have done what they did..

BUT.. I do think that having Duckett makes them a better team than not having Duckett.. He may have averaged only 3.1 yards per carry last season, but a ton of his carries were in short yardage situations.. You aren't going to average 4 yards a carry that way.. and in those short yardage situations that he was mostly used in, he was successful in converting a great percentage of the time.. He scored 8 touchdowns that way and got a lot of first downs that way.. Hence, I think he is a "great" short yardage runner..

as for as being "sure" about Portis's health, I didn't mean that literally.. but if I had to guess, I would assume that he is going to be starting week one..

EDIT: and I forgot to mention that over his career, Duckett averages 3.9 yards per carry over his career and has averaged 8 touchdowns a year over his career.. I'd say that's a pretty darn good backup..
 

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kmd24 said:
Just passing along what I read on ExtremeSkins.

Portis rumor

Looking at this trade, I think there HAS to be more to the Portis injury than we've been let on. If you're gonna give up that much for a guy, he better get some significant time.

Granted I haven't watched every Commanders game over the past 2-3 seasons, but I never got the feeling that CP was unable to get the tough yardage. It doesn't even seem like they had a NEED for a short yardage goalline back.

Even if they feel they did have that need, to give up two mid rounders to fill only that need is ludicrous. Not every team has to have a short yardage back. I've never heard fans of a team say, "Man if we can just get that short yardage guy..." You throw in a DL to block or just give him the ball a la Fridge. You don't give up a 3rd and 4th rounder or whatever it turns out being for a short yardage guy.

So the Skins have to have plans to use Duckett as a feature guy, and in that case, I LOVE this move, because IMO Duckett can't be that kinda back.
 

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kmd24 said:
Just passing along what I read on ExtremeSkins.

Portis rumor

I don't like to go on rumors, but it would make some sense. Is it the worst trade ever? No, but it's still a bit odd.

Even if it was a 1 year injury type of thing, it still doesn't make much sense to give up 2 draft picks and signe Duckett to a 3 year deal.

YAKUZA.....
sat right next to Duckett in a Carrabba's bar a few months ago and didn't even know it was him until some people went up for his autograph
 
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