Rumor: Fedor Emelianenko,UFC finalizing contract
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Rampage;2861528 said:
which was a russian jail with a great deal of russian mafia in it. I've looked into it a little bit and found out the russian mob is notorious for black mailing and binding russian athletes
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Jul 31, 2009
15:33 pm, Neil Springer / General, 881 words
UFC couldn't sign Fedor
Despite rumours and speculation that WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko was close to signing with the UFC, the deal is off.
According to UFC president Dana White, he made a big offer to Emelianenko and his management team at M-1 Global, but was not willing to co-promote with them.
"We tried everything that we could possibly do to get Fedor into the UFC -- we went above and beyond," White said on a media conference call. "We came to the table willing to give up just about anything, except the co-promotion. We offered him the most amazing deal -- I guarantee you he will not be offered another deal like this in mixed martial arts.
"I don't want to say anything bad about this guy. Listen, I went out there and tried to make this thing happen; I did everything I could possibly do. They didn't want to do it. For whatever reason, they didn't want to sign a deal with the UFC."
White wouldn't get into details about what co-promotion would have entailed, but said it was joke for M-1 to think they are in a position to help the UFC.
"Let me ask you a question; let's be honest here," White said. "These guys are going to come in and co-promote? How the hell are they going to co-promote anything? The UFC -- we've built this entire frigging industry.
"It's basically them coming in and saying, 'Hey, we've got this guy and some people might say he's the best heavyweight in the world. So for that, we want half of your business.' Yeah, okay. That **** probably works in Russia -- not here."
TITO ORTIZ TO FIGHT IN 2009
On the long list of things MMA fans thought they'd never see, White burying the hatchet with Tito Ortiz had to be right at the top. Yet, the two have made up and Ortiz is preparing for a return to the octagon by the year's end.
It almost seems like an appropriate conclusion to one of the strangest months in recent MMA history.
"I think time really cures everything," Ortiz said on the call. "Dana came to me and he was a man of his word; he apologized to me for the things he did. We're kind of like boyfriend and girlfriend -- of course with him being the girlfriend.
"For me, it was about competition. My fans deserve the best of Tito Ortiz. If I fought for Strikeforce, who was I going to fight? Renato (Babalu) Sobral? I'd crush his face. Frank Shamrock? It'd be the first death in mixed-martial-arts history."
White said he was happy to bring Ortiz back because the fans still want to watch him compete.
"Tito and I have literally put our differences aside and are ready to move forward," White said. "Tito Ortiz is still a guy the fans want to see fight. He just had back surgery and is getting back into training. He feels good and is ready to compete in the 205-pound division and take a shot at the title again.
"Tito is a guy that some people love and others love to hate, but people give a **** about him, so he's back."
White said Ortiz's first opponent may be Mark Coleman.
"Tito's not going to get an easy road," White said. "We're talking about him fighting Mark Coleman. Coleman just came off a war with Mauricio (Shogun) Rua in Ireland and then came back and beat Stephan Bonnar."
This announcement got an immediate response from Ortiz.
"This is the first for me to know," he said laughing. "Thanks, Dana. Now I've got my work cut out for me."
Ortiz said he feels great and will begin working with boxing trainer Freddie Roach on Monday. He pointed out that even when his back was in rough shape, he provided tough competition for the UFC's elite.
"I look at the past three UFC (light-heavyweight) champions. Forrest Griffin: I beat. Rashad Evans: I thought I beat but they called it a draw. (Lyoto) Machida: I gave him the best fight any fighter has until this point; I almost submitted him.
"Everyone in the light-heavyweight division better watch out because I'm coming and I want my title back."
15:33 pm, Neil Springer / General, 881 words
UFC couldn't sign Fedor
Despite rumours and speculation that WAMMA heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko was close to signing with the UFC, the deal is off.
According to UFC president Dana White, he made a big offer to Emelianenko and his management team at M-1 Global, but was not willing to co-promote with them.
"We tried everything that we could possibly do to get Fedor into the UFC -- we went above and beyond," White said on a media conference call. "We came to the table willing to give up just about anything, except the co-promotion. We offered him the most amazing deal -- I guarantee you he will not be offered another deal like this in mixed martial arts.
"I don't want to say anything bad about this guy. Listen, I went out there and tried to make this thing happen; I did everything I could possibly do. They didn't want to do it. For whatever reason, they didn't want to sign a deal with the UFC."
White wouldn't get into details about what co-promotion would have entailed, but said it was joke for M-1 to think they are in a position to help the UFC.
"Let me ask you a question; let's be honest here," White said. "These guys are going to come in and co-promote? How the hell are they going to co-promote anything? The UFC -- we've built this entire frigging industry.
"It's basically them coming in and saying, 'Hey, we've got this guy and some people might say he's the best heavyweight in the world. So for that, we want half of your business.' Yeah, okay. That **** probably works in Russia -- not here."
TITO ORTIZ TO FIGHT IN 2009
On the long list of things MMA fans thought they'd never see, White burying the hatchet with Tito Ortiz had to be right at the top. Yet, the two have made up and Ortiz is preparing for a return to the octagon by the year's end.
It almost seems like an appropriate conclusion to one of the strangest months in recent MMA history.
"I think time really cures everything," Ortiz said on the call. "Dana came to me and he was a man of his word; he apologized to me for the things he did. We're kind of like boyfriend and girlfriend -- of course with him being the girlfriend.
"For me, it was about competition. My fans deserve the best of Tito Ortiz. If I fought for Strikeforce, who was I going to fight? Renato (Babalu) Sobral? I'd crush his face. Frank Shamrock? It'd be the first death in mixed-martial-arts history."
White said he was happy to bring Ortiz back because the fans still want to watch him compete.
"Tito and I have literally put our differences aside and are ready to move forward," White said. "Tito Ortiz is still a guy the fans want to see fight. He just had back surgery and is getting back into training. He feels good and is ready to compete in the 205-pound division and take a shot at the title again.
"Tito is a guy that some people love and others love to hate, but people give a **** about him, so he's back."
White said Ortiz's first opponent may be Mark Coleman.
"Tito's not going to get an easy road," White said. "We're talking about him fighting Mark Coleman. Coleman just came off a war with Mauricio (Shogun) Rua in Ireland and then came back and beat Stephan Bonnar."
This announcement got an immediate response from Ortiz.
"This is the first for me to know," he said laughing. "Thanks, Dana. Now I've got my work cut out for me."
Ortiz said he feels great and will begin working with boxing trainer Freddie Roach on Monday. He pointed out that even when his back was in rough shape, he provided tough competition for the UFC's elite.
"I look at the past three UFC (light-heavyweight) champions. Forrest Griffin: I beat. Rashad Evans: I thought I beat but they called it a draw. (Lyoto) Machida: I gave him the best fight any fighter has until this point; I almost submitted him.
"Everyone in the light-heavyweight division better watch out because I'm coming and I want my title back."
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Fedor is good and all but until he steps into the Octagon he will never be this unstopable force in my eyes.
If anyone can beat him its going to be someone in the UFC. Until he fights there then he is just fighting 2nd rate guys.
I realise he has beat the Cro Cops, Randlemans, and Nog's but he still needs to get in there with the natural, mir, and BROCK.
If anyone can beat him its going to be someone in the UFC. Until he fights there then he is just fighting 2nd rate guys.
I realise he has beat the Cro Cops, Randlemans, and Nog's but he still needs to get in there with the natural, mir, and BROCK.
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CATCH17;2862310 said:
When he was Pride HW champ Pride was the place to be and the UFC was 2nd rate.
I really don't get this mentality some people have that he needs to prove him self, after the run he had in Pride there shouldn't be any doubts.
Somehow Frank Mir (a guy who reputations was made fighting guys like Tank Abbott) and Brock "i've won 4 fights in my entire carer" Lesnar are the new measuring stick for greatness as HW, I just don't get that.
When Brock has fought half the fights Fedor has and if he still has his belt at that point we can start to talk about about him as a legit contender to Fedor as the best HW in the world. Brock isn't exactly being tested either the UFC HW division much like every other HW divsion just isn't that good
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Ren;2862478 said:
I agree with everything you said but I think both guys need each other if they want their legacy to be legit.
Lesnar may smash Fedors face in and we would never get to know that he is truly the best.
Or Fedor may submit him by arm bar in 30 seconds.
There is legit challengers in the UFC right now. M1? Not so much.
If Anderson Silva defeats Forrest Griffin than IMO he is the best Pound for Pound in the world.
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Rampage;2863230 said:
he just is GAW!
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CATCH17;2862843 said:
M-1 isn't a promotion in the same sense that the UFC is. They're snakes who'll use their fighters to try and get inn on the PPV action in the companies that sign their fighters, think of them sort of like really sleazy NFL agents.
Fedor is probably going to have his next fight in either Strikeforce or Dream not M-1, M-1 will just get him there and stand with their hands out as the cash starts to trickle inn.
For a guys who's beaten the top HW in Pride for years i don't see how suddenly fighting someone like Mir would make or break his legacy at this point.
I would love to see him fight Brock and i'm very disappointed that they couldn't reach an agreement to make that happen, but i don't think beating Brock or not figthing Brock would be a defining moment in his carer.
Brock might be the man in the UFC right now but compared to every other flavor of the month fighter he's already beaten in Pride he's really not that special.
I would go as far as to say before all the roiding news broke with Barnett that he was a much more worthy challenger to Fedor then Brock is obviously that has changed.
I wanna see Brock fight someone like Crocop right now, he did not look at all comfortable or good on his feet in his last 2 wins and a good striker someone who could actually KO him for the slightest mistake is not something he's had to deal with.
Brock reminds me a lot of Mark Coleman back in the early days of the UFC. He looked absolutely unstoppable until he fought Maurice Smith. Brock has a long way to go before the debate about who's the better fighter can start he has 4 wins, that's it. For all we know he's just another Coleman
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http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news?slug=ki-fedorufc073109&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
I thought that was a pretty interesting take on the situation. Also interesting that Dana gave in to pretty much everything Fedor wanted, money/sambo/advertising M-1 on his gear and banners during fights and they still wouldnt sign because Dana isn't foolish enough to give over 50% partnership of the company in promoting things.
I thought that was a pretty interesting take on the situation. Also interesting that Dana gave in to pretty much everything Fedor wanted, money/sambo/advertising M-1 on his gear and banners during fights and they still wouldnt sign because Dana isn't foolish enough to give over 50% partnership of the company in promoting things.
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Rampage;2864872 said:
I meant interesting in how the writer was blaming it on Fedor more than anyone else.
It's obviously ridiculous that they wanted to be allowed to co-promote in something they bring only 1 fighter to and have done absolutely zero to build.