Rumor: Fedor Emelianenko,UFC finalizing contract

[Ren]

It's obviously ridiculous that they wanted to be allowed to co-promote in something they bring only 1 fighter to and have done absolutely zero to build.

Not really they keep finding people desperate enough, it's stupid of them to expect the UFC to do it though.

This is good for strikeforce Fedor will make more people then like the 4 viewers they currently have watch their crappy events.

When it became obvious that he wasn't going to the UFC i was kinda hoping he'd end up in Dream.

Overheem vs Fedor which will no doubt be his next fight is such a non event it's sad, that's if Overheem doesn't fail a drug test too before the fight that dude when from average sized LHW to a big HW over night

 

[CATCH17]

lol Lesnar... at least let him get double digit wins before we crown him the best ever

I crown him the best ever because Fedor is scared to get in the octagon with him.

He is either foolish or scared. 1 of the 2.

 

[Ren]

I crown him the best ever because Fedor is scared to get in the octagon with him.

He is either foolish or scared. 1 of the 2.

I doubt he's either, my vote goes to greedy though

Brock is nothing special Fedor owns 20% of M-1 he's not going to just give all that up just to show the world (US fans mostly) he can beat up an over hyped 4 win roid monkey.
He's spent the last 10 years beating guys who where a lot more proven then him anyways.

Who has brock beat? A 50 year old has been, a never was and Mir,.. impressive

 

[DemonBlood]

Marvel Vs Capcom 2 FTW!

Also, this thread fails. I predicted every single post. Dana got owned. Rabble rabble rabble.


Fedor=Afraid of Cro Cop.

 

[Ren]

Marvel Vs Capcom 2 FTW!

can't decide if i want to get that again i have the old dreamcast version already but that doesn't have online

 

[DemonBlood]

can't decide if i want to get that again i have the old dreamcast version already but that doesn't have online

It's great man. Just as good as it used to be when it was on the Dreamcast and arcade. Still the best fighting game of all time but now it's in widescreen HD and online.

 

[QT]

I just read Muscle and Fitness or whatever mag it was and it has a story about Kurt Angle. After a TV match on WWE, Kurt and Lesnar went back to the ring (just for fun), to see who would win in a real wrestling match. With other wrestlers watching, Kurt (olympic gold medalist) pinned Lesnar pretty easily. I think Lesnar was a top wrestler also in college.

Just thought that was interesting.

 

[the kid 05]

I just read Muscle and Fitness or whatever mag it was and it has a story about Kurt Angle. After a TV match on WWE, Kurt and Lesnar went back to the ring (just for fun), to see who would win in a real wrestling match. With other wrestlers watching, Kurt (olympic gold medalist) pinned Lesnar pretty easily. I think Lesnar was a top wrestler also in college.

Just thought that was interesting.

i read that as well, just straight wrestling and grappling. That would have been cool to see

 

[CATCH17]

I doubt he's either, my vote goes to greedy though

Brock is nothing special Fedor owns 20% of M-1 he's not going to just give all that up just to show the world (US fans mostly) he can beat up an over hyped 4 win roid monkey.
He's spent the last 10 years beating guys who where a lot more proven then him anyways.

Who has brock beat? A 50 year old has been, a never was and Mir,.. impressive

You put way to much emphasis on history.

Anyone Lesnar steps in the ring with is going to get smashed right now.

The only guy with a chance is Fedor and maybe Nog because of the match-up but I doubt he even beats the Natural.

Lesnars power is just to overwhelming and the only way to beat him is to hope he falls into a submission.

 

[Ren]

You put way to much emphasis on history.

Anyone Lesnar steps in the ring with is going to get smashed right now.

The only guy with a chance is Fedor and maybe Nog because of the match-up but I doubt he even beats the Natural.

Lesnars power is just to overwhelming and the only way to beat him is to hope he falls into a submission.

He looks clueless on his feet someone like crocop could KO him easily if Brock can't get him to the ground right away.
Like i said before he reminds me a lot of Coleman back in the day. Everyone was smaller back then cause there wasn't really any weight classes yet so he had that same overwhelming size and power advantage and looked unstoppable for a little while.
I think when Brock loses, and he will just not to Couture or Nog, it will be to strikes not submission

 

[TellerMorrow34]

He looks clueless on his feet someone like crocop could KO him easily if Brock can't get him to the ground right away.
Like i said before he reminds me a lot of Coleman back in the day. Everyone was smaller back then cause there wasn't really any weight classes yet so he had that same overwhelming size and power advantage and looked unstoppable for a little while.
I think when Brock loses, and he will just not to Couture or Nog, it will be to strikes not submission

Well given that other guys in UFC without an ounce of the wrestling ability (Kongo comes to mind) were able to get Cro Cop to the ground I seriously doubt that Lesnar would have any trouble, at all, doing so. So he wouldn't have to worry about those kicks of doom from Mirko.

I agree that it could easily be that he'll lose from strikes before he loses from submissions again. he's learned, quickly, to avoid the submission stuff and that will naturally get more and more people to try and throw with him.

Then again...Randy didn't do so great trying to stand with him. Nor did Herring. Mir got in one solid knee that rocked Brock, for about 3 seconds, but wasn't able to following anything up from it because Brock immediately took him to the ground, while being rocked, and proceeded to pummel his face into submission for the trouble.

It's very easy to say someone is going to do this, or that, when it comes to Brock because of his inexperience and the fact that he was a 'fake' wrestler but being able to actually execute it is another thing.

Right now I believe that Fedor is the only serious threat to Lesnar. Maybe that Cain guy, down the road, but at this point the only serious threat is Fedor. Which will never happen cause Fedor, and his camp, are content to leach off struggling promotions, sucking them dry and causing them to have to sell, while he continues to build up his wins against people no one really cares to see him fight.

 

[Ren]

Then again...Randy didn't do so great trying to stand with him. Nor did Herring. Mir got in one solid knee that rocked Brock, for about 3 seconds, but wasn't able to following anything up from it because Brock immediately took him to the ground, while being rocked, and proceeded to pummel his face into submission for the trouble.

Neither one of those guys are great strikers, getting rocked by Mir is not the same as getting rocked by Crocop cause someone like Crocop can and will finish a fight when an opening like that presents it self.
Crocop really hasn't looked his best since coming to the UFC but he's not less dangerous then he was.

I really don't have any real concerns about his ground defense either, the Kongo fight was one fight. Crocop lasted 3 rounds against Fedor and has 3 wins over Barnett, he's far from helpless on the ground

When you look at the UFC HW division Crocop vs Brock is about as good as it's going to get neither Nog or Couture can take him it's just a mismatch is styles, what they're good at plays right into what Brock is good at

 

[Rampage]

Neither one of those guys are great strikers, getting rocked by Mir is not the same as getting rocked by Crocop cause someone like Crocop can and will finish a fight when an opening like that presents it self.
Crocop really hasn't looked his best since coming to the UFC but he's not less dangerous then he was.

I really don't have any real concerns about his ground defense either, the Kongo fight was one fight. Crocop lasted 3 rounds against Fedor and has 3 wins over Barnett, he's far from helpless on the ground

When you look at the UFC HW division Crocop vs Brock is about as good as it's going to get neither Nog or Couture can take him it's just a mismatch is styles, what they're good at plays right into what Brock is good at

Kongo also knee'd him in the nuts like 5 times.

 

[MrMom]

Strikeforce and DREAM will announce a partnership on Wednesday that could see an exchange of fighters between the two promotions.

Strikeforce CEO Scott Coker revealed Monday night in a radio appearance on The Carmichael Dave Show that the No. 2 MMA promotion in America will enter into an "alliance" with Fighting Entertainment Group, the parent company of the No. 1 MMA promotion in Japan.

FanHouse has received confirmation from Strikeforce that the announcement will be made Wednesday afternoon.

The partnership could open up new possibilities for the recently-signed Fedor Emelianenko, who had seemingly only Alistair Overeem, Brett Rogers and Fabricio Werdum as opponents in Strikeforce. Fedor could also find himself fighting in Japan after his fall Strikeforce on Showtime date. The former PRIDE heavyweight champ is well-loved in the country and from 2003-2007 took pride in a tradition to compete every New Year's Eve in Japan's annual blockbuster year-end show.

"We've talked about [the partnership] for a long time," Coker said on the Northern California sports program. "It's finally going to happen now so maybe [Sergei] Kharitonov could fight Fedor at some point."

Besides more options for Fedor, there's an entire pool of new opponents for each promotion that could also give a clearer understanding to world rankings outside of the UFC.

The current champions and direct title contenders under DREAM are Joachim Hansen (lightweight champion), Shinya Aoki, Marius Zaromskis (welterweight champion), Ronaldo "Jacare" Souza, Jason "Mayhem" Miller, Bibiano Fernandes, Joe Warren, Hiroyuki Takaya and Hideo Tokoro.

Meanwhile, the champions with Strikeforce are Alistair Overeem (heavyweight), Renato "Babalu" Sobral (light heavyweight), Cung Le (middleweight), Josh Thomson (lightweight), Gilbert Melendez (interim lightweight) and the Aug. 15 winner of Nick Diaz vs. Jay Hieron.

The two promotions already share the services of former DREAM middleweight champion and current No. 1 Strikeforce light heavyweight title contender Gegard Mousasi, who also happens to be under contract with Fedor's management, M-1 Global.

Coker added that more details on Fedor's future, including the date and opponent, could be announced as early as Thursday.

 

[Rampage]

I canceled Showtime cause it sucks. but if Dream and Strikeforce are teaming up it probably means theey're having money problems.

 

[CATCH17]

LOL @ Cro Cop.

He is finished.

Gabriel Gonzagas kick is in his head. No pun intended.

 

[Ren]

Dream is doing quite well in Japan, but outside of that they're pretty small i think they did this to get more exposure in the west. Strikeforce needed this i think

Another reason could be that Dream has no HW division at all they had to turn their HW GP into an open weight GP and even then the only good fighter in it was Mousasi, they went as far as to put Jose canseco in one of the fights.
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Dream is really good up to and including MW they have next to nothing above that though. Their LW division is IMO better then the UFC LW division

 

[Ren]

LOL @ Cro Cop.

He is finished.

Gabriel Gonzagas kick is in his head. No pun intended.

I doubt anyone including Crocop knew he could kick that high before that fight. If you look at a replay of the KO you can see crocops hands come down to block the kick as he's throwing it. I'm willing to write that one of as a fluke

 

[Rampage]

Catch, you're really sounding like a product of the UFC hype machine.

 

[CATCH17]

Catch, you're really sounding like a product of the UFC hype machine.

UFC is currently the best product. Disagree?

Pride used to be the best at 1 point but nothing touches the UFC now.

And Cro-Cop is finished.

He has been horrible in the UFC and looks nothing like his former self.