Rumor: supposedly cowboys going to look at adding a punt returner!

AbeBeta;3014036 said:
so the guy who had one good game should replace the guy who had one good game?


Thats not how its done in this league? I need some reprogramming.
 
cowboyjoe;3013961 said:
Patrick Crayton-WR- Cowboys Oct. 13 - 1:18 pm et


In addition to potentially losing his starting job, Patrick Crayton is also in danger of being pulled from punt returns.
Miles Austin's breakout game will likely push the much less explosive Crayton into the slot role, where he belongs. After muffing a punt and "looking tentative" on three fair catches, the Cowboys will look for a replacement returner this week.
Source: ESPN.com

After watching Newman wave for a fair catch at the 20 yard line then not stepping under it to make the catch instead letting in bounce where KC was able to down it inside the 5 I don't want to see him back there any more.
 
mldardy;3014043 said:
This is my thing about 'well it was only 1 game against the Chiefs for AUstin' and 'let's not forget he dropped a TD'. All our WR's have dropped TD's. Who else do you feel is worthy of starting if not Austin, that is my question? Who else on this team should start over Austin right now? He went for 250 yards and I don't care what team that was against that is a receiver who should start on this team.


So, if he can put up 250 against the Chiefs but not another team, he should be starting? What if another receiver next week puts up 250 yards on some freak carries, they start the next week? What if Ogletree does it, but than goes Danny A on us? do we start him as well because of a freak game and than crush the confidence of your starters?

Would you replace Witten if Bennett caught fire for a game?
 
DallasKnight;3013974 said:
Removing Cray Cray from punt returning is a good thing. I've been calling for this since last season. But I'm not sure that you hang your hat on Austin after ONE good game. Pulling Crayton from starting and pushing him to the slot after 1 game? Where has Austin been the other 4 games this year?
How do you not start a WR who just had 10 catches for 250 yards and 2 Tds... It's not like Crayton is tearing it up, he's also best suited for the slot anyway.
 
Q_the_man;3014051 said:
How do you not start a WR who just had 10 catches for 250 yards and 2 Tds... It's not like Crayton is tearing it up, he's also best suited for the slot anyway.


This is the one thought that most fans are going back to and agreeing with. Crayton excels at the slot so just dont go breaking whats working.

If we'lre not going to do the 2 TE set, set up Austin for the number 2 slot and be done with it. If everyone is crashing on your season by the 5th game, I think its time to let the crazies run the asylum. What do you have to lose?
 
cowboyjoe;3013961 said:
Patrick Crayton-WR- Cowboys Oct. 13 - 1:18 pm et


In addition to potentially losing his starting job, Patrick Crayton is also in danger of being pulled from punt returns.
Miles Austin's breakout game will likely push the much less explosive Crayton into the slot role, where he belongs. After muffing a punt and "looking tentative" on three fair catches, the Cowboys will look for a replacement returner this week.
Source: ESPN.com

I call BSpn.

Besides the muff, Crayton has been rather good on punts.
 
ShiningStar;3014050 said:
Would you replace Witten if Bennett caught fire for a game?

When Crayton makes the All Pro team, he can have Witten's job security.

How about that?
 
DallasKnight;3013974 said:
Removing Cray Cray from punt returning is a good thing. I've been calling for this since last season. But I'm not sure that you hang your hat on Austin after ONE good game. Pulling Crayton from starting and pushing him to the slot after 1 game? Where has Austin been the other 4 games this year?

I hear what you are saying, but at least Austin provides a deep threat that will force DC's to give at least some attention to him. DC's look at Crayton on film and yawn. Crayton has been and always will be a #3 receiver at best.

If Austin's presence can loosen up coverage for Witten and Williams then it is worth making the change.
 
InmanRoshi;3014066 said:
When Crayton makes the All Pro team, he can have Witten's job security.

How about that?


Hey hey hey, its all about popularity with the AP, Crayton has been Crayton and thats all thats asked of him. Sure he dropped some crucial throws, or isnt fast enough, or slick enough (see the punter direct him off the field) but hes been a Crayton type player and has a made a great living off it, so i dont expect "all pro" out of him, as long as hes stable and makes a catch or fair catch or two, life is dull but meaningful.
 
Q_the_man;3014051 said:
How do you not start a WR who just had 10 catches for 250 yards and 2 Tds... It's not like Crayton is tearing it up, he's also best suited for the slot anyway.

That's exactly what I'm saying. You KNOW what you have in Crayton. Solid, nothing flashy, can usually count on him. What do you know about Austin. He had ONE game in which he blew the roof off the stadium. Was the goat the week before, and was none existant the rest of the season and last year. Hmmmm, yeah, I'll go with the guy I know for now, till Austin proves it wasn't a fluke.
 
Allen Rossum is available
2:13 PM Tue, Oct 13, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Cowboys' punt returners, Patrick Crayton and Terence Newman, struggled on Sunday. Crayton muffed one punt out of bounds, which technically was a sound play because he saved yards on a punt, and fumbled another. Newman inexplicably let a punt hit the ground and the Cowboys had to start a drive from their 3.

San Francisco cut Allen Rossum to make room for Michael Crabtree, making him available. He is in his 12th year and was averaging 7 yards per punt return and 21.7 yards per kick return. Those numbers are hardly staggering but he has eight returns for scores in his career.

Here's an issue of adding Rossum - he plays only one spot. The Cowboys are already carrying two kickers, a third quarterback and a longsnapper on the roster. Adding another one-position player to the roster is difficult. They appear to be ready to do the 54-man shuffle with running back Chauncey Washington from the practice squad to active roster while Marion Barber and Felix Jones recover fully from injuries.

I don't know what Rossum has left in the tank and I don't know if that is worth a roster spot. But he has a history with special teams coach Joe DeCamillis.
 
DallasKnight;3014070 said:
That's exactly what I'm saying. You KNOW what you have in Crayton. Solid, nothing flashy, can usually count on him. What do you know about Austin. He had ONE game in which he blew the roof off the stadium. Was the goat the week before, and was none existant the rest of the season and last year. Hmmmm, yeah, I'll go with the guy I know for now, till Austin proves it wasn't a fluke.


So far Austin is averaging 1 good game a season. he has to build on that before anything else.
 
Patrick Crayton could lose two jobs

October 13, 2009, 11:22 AM

By: Calvin Watkins


Wide receiver Patrick Crayton might get benched in place of Miles Austin in the starting lineup. Both players have the same number of catches (15) but Austin's ability to make big plays -- three touchdowns to one -- finally gives the Cowboys somebody who can stretch the defense down the field.

The interesting thing about Austin is that all three of his touchdowns came with him breaking tackles, something Crayton hasn't been able to do on a consistent basis.

Crayton is also on the verge of losing his job as a punt returner. He muffed a punt Sunday at Kansas City and looked tentative in calling three fair catches.

Expect the Cowboys to have a punt returner contest this week.
 
Alexander;3014072 said:
Allen Rossum is available
2:13 PM Tue, Oct 13, 2009 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The Cowboys' punt returners, Patrick Crayton and Terence Newman, struggled on Sunday. Crayton muffed one punt out of bounds, which technically was a sound play because he saved yards on a punt, and fumbled another. Newman inexplicably let a punt hit the ground and the Cowboys had to start a drive from their 3.

San Francisco cut Allen Rossum to make room for Michael Crabtree, making him available. He is in his 12th year and was averaging 7 yards per punt return and 21.7 yards per kick return. Those numbers are hardly staggering but he has eight returns for scores in his career.

Here's an issue of adding Rossum - he plays only one spot. The Cowboys are already carrying two kickers, a third quarterback and a longsnapper on the roster. Adding another one-position player to the roster is difficult. They appear to be ready to do the 54-man shuffle with running back Chauncey Washington from the practice squad to active roster while Marion Barber and Felix Jones recover fully from injuries.

I don't know what Rossum has left in the tank and I don't know if that is worth a roster spot. But he has a history with special teams coach Joe DeCamillis.


Nothing screams special about this. What exactly are you looking for, Crayton v2.0?
 
AbeBeta;3014036 said:
so the guy who had one good game should replace the guy who had one good game?

Except we've seen for years what Patrick Crayton can do - and its absolutely nothing like what Miles Austin just did.

Might as well get the guy with the much higher ceiling out there instead of watching another year of the same from Crayton.
 
ShiningStar;3014050 said:
So, if he can put up 250 against the Chiefs but not another team, he should be starting? What if another receiver next week puts up 250 yards on some freak carries, they start the next week? What if Ogletree does it, but than goes Danny A on us? do we start him as well because of a freak game and than crush the confidence of your starters?

Would you replace Witten if Bennett caught fire for a game?
Yes. How many receivers have put up 250 yards? How many put up back to back 250 yards? I could probably can't on one maybe two hands in the history of the league. If Crayton puts up 250 then yes he should start but he hasn't and more than likely won't. Your coming up with a lot of what ifs for something that doesn't happen very often.

Your example of Bennett replacing Witten is silly. Crayton isn't even close to the track record Witten has in this league. What has Crayton done to have the respect of whether he should start or not.
 
ShiningStar;3014079 said:
Nothing screams special about this. What exactly are you looking for, Crayton v2.0?
I have no idea. But Rossum is about the best you are going to find at this time of year unless you swing a trade for Parrish.

Really, I don't see a reason to knee jerk and upset an already tight roster situation by signing another specialist. Plus, I don't think Crayton is that horrible on punt returns. That was the absolute worst I think he has ever done. Now if he keeps doing that, I'd say then look at making a move.

But I am sure during the bye week, we'll try out a few players, Rossum might be one of them. Someone mentioned McQuarters earlier, he actually can play cornerback. That might be another option.
 
wileedog;3014085 said:
Except we've seen for years what Patrick Crayton can do - and its absolutely nothing like what Miles Austin just did.

Might as well get the guy with the much higher ceiling out there instead of watching another year of the same from Crayton.
It really has nothing to do with Crayton, who I think is getting a lot of criticism because of his ST issues, not his receiving ones.

He's always going to be limited. Austin is a better compliment to Williams. It really isn't that hard to figure out. I would try it out and see. We have nothing to lose. Crayton is well, Crayton, a solid player who isn't going to offer any type of explosive ability.
 
Alexander;3014089 said:
I have no idea. But Rossum is about the best you are going to find at this time of year unless you swing a trade for Parrish.

Really, I don't see a reason to knee jerk and upset an already tight roster situation by signing another specialist. Plus, I don't think Crayton is that horrible on punt returns. That was the absolute worst I think he has ever done. Now if he keeps doing that, I'd say then look at making a move.

But I am sure during the bye week, we'll try out a few players, Rossum might be one of them. Someone mentioned McQuarters earlier, he actually can play cornerback. That might be another option.


I agree wtih you but I am thinking McQuarters is to old maybe if he thought about safety i would bring him in before Rossum, but really do either McQuarters or Rossum scare anyteam more than Crayton? I think they are all solid guys and thats all you can ask of them.
 
DId Cletis Gordon return punts in San Diego a little bit?
 
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