Rumored Favorite for #4

[TheFinisher]

How is he a freak? His combine numbers are not great.

6'7 300 pounder who had 11 sacks last season and pac 12 dpoy. That's freakish size/playmaking ability no matter who you want to compare him up against.

 

[ThreeandOut]

LDE is not a premium position in the Dallas defense, so I think either Buckner or Bosa would also have to be able to play the 3 technique to be considered at 4.

 

[Aliencowboy]

LDE is not a premium position in the Dallas defense, so I think either Buckner or Bosa would also have to be able to play the 3 technique to be considered at 4.

IMO - They both could play RDE 3T at or near a pro bowl level in the future. It's just that you have DLaw and Crawford that are a notch below that at exactly the same positions. Seems redundant.

 

[DuDa]

How is he a freak? His combine numbers are not great.

Combine numbers have little to do with actual football. Buckner's explosive strength on the football field is insane. I would rather have Buckner as a flex defensive lineman than Bosa.

 

[DuDa]

LDE is not a premium position in the Dallas defense, so I think either Buckner or Bosa would also have to be able to play the 3 technique to be considered at 4.

Thats the sort of thinking that gets you Gavin Escobar instead of Le'veon Bell. Just take the best player on the board.

 

[Gaede]

Not a fan but I like him more than Bosa.

Also like the idea of going DL so I wouldn't be totally upset

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Buckner has as high a ceiling as any player in this class. He's a freak show. Give me as many monsters on the dline as possible.

And then you look and see how he ran at the combine and you realize that he is not all that athletic for 290 lbs.

Watt is a freak show:

40: 4.84
vj: 37"
bj: 120"
cone: 6.88
shuttle: 4.21

Buckner is pedestrian:

40: 5.05
vj: 32"
bj: 116"
cone: 7.51
shuttle: 4.47

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=122262&draftyear=2016&genpos=DE

 

[TheFinisher]

And then you look and see how he ran at the combine and you realize that he is not all that athletic for 290 lbs.

Watt is a freak show:

40: 4.84
vj: 37"
bj: 120"
cone: 6.88
shuttle: 4.21

Buckner is pedestrian:

40: 5.05
vj: 32"
bj: 116"
cone: 7.51
shuttle: 4.47

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=122262&draftyear=2016&genpos=DE

Or we can compare him to the NFL Freak his body type resembles more...

Calais Campbell


Measurables
40 Yard Dash: 5.04 seconds

Vertical Leap: 29.5 inches
Broad Jump: 111 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.69 seconds
Three Cone: 7.45 seconds

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7890

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Or we can compare him to the NFL Freak his body type resembles more...

Calais Campbell

Measurables
40 Yard Dash: 5.04 seconds

Vertical Leap: 29.5 inches
Broad Jump: 111 inches
20 Yd Shuttle: 4.69 seconds
Three Cone: 7.45 seconds

http://nflcombineresults.com/playerpage.php?i=7890

Calais wasn't a freak coming out either. He lasted until the second round. He developed into one of the premiere 3-4 DE but what kind of defense do we run?

I get that you like him and I agree he was very productive in college but so have a lot of other guys that didn't succeed. When it comes down to it, physically, Buckner is in the fat part of the bell curve.

 

[The Natural]

I like him more than Bosa.

Also like the idea of going DL so I wouldn't be totally upset

I share this sentiment

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Don't care for him. Doesn't have enough burst to be a good pass rusher as a 4-3 DE.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

It seems that Walterfootball is a fan of Kiper. Buckner is Kiper's pet cat this year. You don't draft a Greg Ellis with the 4th pick, that is what you are getting.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Thats the sort of thinking that gets you Gavin Escobar instead of Le'veon Bell. Just take the best player on the board.

Pretty sure Escobar was rated higher on the Cowboys board.

 

[Hardline]

Pretty sure Escobar was rated higher on the Cowboys board.

There in lies the problem. Why would Escobar be rated higher on anyones board?

 

[Garret]

I'd be very happy with this guy as long as he checks out on character. Watched a couple games and im sold on him. He's a natural pass rusher and smooth for a guy his size. He uses hands well in pass rush I saw him using more swim type moves. Wouldn't call those speed rushes but he has good hips that allows those "speed" moves to work. Didn't see a ton of power rushes but doesn't scare me those will come will more strength.

In running game was impressed with gap displine. Looked good on outside zones staying with tackle without giving up ground. Quick enough to swap hats late and make tackle out of gap he was assigned to. Does look like they two gapped him most of the time but still impressive to see good gap displine. Anchored better then I thought he would.

I think with improved strength this guy can become a monster. I like the way he won his battles in my eyes projects well to NFL success. He isn't just overpowering o linemen he has very good technique. (Does play a little high) Waching him I did feel like I was watching a DT from time to time so I get that argument. Could be wrong but not many guys that big can get to the qb 12 times. Easily see him sliding inside on nickel but think he would be just fine work on the outside.