Running attack

Bleu Star;3586893 said:
It wasn't a coming out party on the ground but it was definitely a step in the right direction. Now... If only they could remove that delayed draw from the playbook... my blood pressure would level out.
I hate to be a negative nancy, but we have fat old offensive linemen. If anything they are going to wear down by the end of the season. At best our run attack by the season's end may be marginally better than it was today, but that's it.
 
TheRat;3586904 said:
I hate to be a negative nancy, but we have fat old offensive linemen. If anything they are going to wear down by the end of the season. At best our run attack by the season's end may be marginally better than it was today, but that's it.
Cmon man... Let the faithful have just a brief reprieve from reality. :D Gotta have faith though. It's what we have and , unless Jerry pulls a rabbit out of his hat, we're going to have to get down that road with these fat old olinemen.
 
Yakuza Rich;3586808 said:
We need to keep Romo under 36 pass attempts.

The formula is pretty simple.

Romo < 36 pass attempts

Run the ball > 25 times

Use shotgun about 25% of the time on first and 2nd down.

Today showed we don't have to be super effective running the ball and we can still use that running game to our advantage. But when we neglect the running game, it makes the opposing defense's life easier.

YR

Well put!
 
I think the overwhelming factor is not Garrett play calling or giving Barber/Felix a certain number of carries...but rather it goes to show when you dont have the huge turnovers and have to play from behind...it allows an offense to be more balanced.
 
Wood;3586938 said:
I think the overwhelming factor is not Garrett play calling or giving Barber/Felix a certain number of carries...but rather it goes to show when you dont have the huge turnovers and have to play from behind...it allows an offense to be more balanced.

I would have to disagree here Wood. I don't think we were in a position of having to play from behind, per say, in either of the other two games. I believe we put ourselves in that situation by not running a balanced offense.

What I saw was a very talented DL that was not able to just rush the passer, with no regard for the run. This, IMO, was easily the best front 7 we have faced thus far and rather then seeing constant pressure on Romo, I was a defensive team that had to honor responsibilities all over the field.
 
Wood;3586551 said:
I think Dallas pretty much ran the same as they have in other two games but big difference was Romo played his best game of year and there was no game changing turnover by offense. When I watch the running attack...its clear Dallas is better passing team with an effective "draw" play in running game...but on routine running plays...there is no push. This team is clearly built around Romo and as he goes...Dallas goes.

I agree with this.

I will post my thoughts and go a little bit more in detail later after I finish work.
 
TheRat;3586904 said:
I hate to be a negative nancy, but we have fat old offensive linemen. If anything they are going to wear down by the end of the season. At best our run attack by the season's end may be marginally better than it was today, but that's it.

They are better than adequate. No sacks and Romo had time to throw the ball. That will win us a lot of money.
 
jobberone;3586996 said:
They are better than adequate. No sacks and Romo had time to throw the ball. That will win us a lot of money.
Unless we are planning to go to a run and shoot we should also be concerned about the run game; not just the passing game. We should be able to run better, and we're not.
 
The difference is we started attacking down the field and hitting the seams...we had 14 passes between 10-20 yards and 5 over 20.
 
Ren;3586600 said:
Leonard Davis kills a lot of the running plays to his side, bit surprising that a guy his size can be such a terrible run blocker

Davis is feast or famine. If he locks on his guy, he probably dominates. However, he misses a lot and results in lots of blown up plays.
 
Wood;3586938 said:
I think the overwhelming factor is not Garrett play calling or giving Barber/Felix a certain number of carries...but rather it goes to show when you dont have the huge turnovers and have to play from behind...it allows an offense to be more balanced.

I'm convinced that a part of the running game issue is how the players are rotated.

We saw it today. There were points in the game when RBs were rotated after each play. Felix is in for one play. He leaves and is replaced by Choice. Then, after just one play, Choice leaves and Barber comes in for a play.

It is almost as if Garrett's goal is to make sure none of the backs get a feel for the game.
 
wayne motley;3586568 said:
The big difference in my opinion was how physical we were, with a nasty streak, and the fact that Garret stuck with the run, stringing several runs together, even when a run didn't pick up much...you have to run it and set a tone.

I think the OL went out and did their jobs they gave some holes for the backs and gave Romo to time to set and throw. Dallas has the weapons but the weapons will only work if the line does their jobs. Today they did and the results were many players involved making plays and moving the chains not to mention putting points on the board
 
zrinkill;3586579 said:
I think they focused on the starter more than the stupid "3-headed monster"

I agree this was a big part of it. The other key was that they stayed commited to running throughout instead of dropping the run after one bad play like ususal.
 
Yakuza Rich;3586808 said:
We need to keep Romo under 36 pass attempts.

The formula is pretty simple.

Romo < 36 pass attempts

Run the ball > 25 times

Chicken and egg.
 
AdamJT13;3587699 said:
Chicken and egg.

Not when the score is pretty close.

We've pretty much had very close games for the entire season. Yet we keep throwing the ball like crazy.

35+ pass attempts is a lot. 50 is a ton.

If you're throwing 50 pass attempts a game and you're within a TD for about 85% of the year, it's easy to see that the gameplan is geared towards throwing the ball a ton instead instead trying to keep the offense balanced.

I could see if we were down a lot of points and our defense was a sive, but that hasn't been the case. We've just neglected the run for whatever reason.





YR
 
TheRat;3586887 said:
You keep citing all these meaningless stats.

Fact of the matter is we had 101 yards with 3.7 ypc. Nobody in their right mind should be satisfied with that.

It really doesn't matter. So long we kept Houston's offense off the field and check out some clock.
 
Penalties aside, Dallas had just five offensive plays that gained no yards or lost yards.

2 No Gain carries by Barber
1 No Gain carry by Jones
1 -2yd carry by Barber
1 -1yd carry by Romo (the kneel down at the end)

According to nfl.com (I may have missed something, if so please correct the stats).

IMO, that's impressive. They may have had a couple of 3 and outs and such but minus the Romo kneel down, 22 of 26 rushing plays gained yards.

It's something positive to look at
 
casmith07;3586648 said:
It was the kind of game plan many Garrett critics have been looking for - if we scheme like that every week within the confines of the defense, we'll be very hard to beat.

Exactly...Was a great gameplan today and he stuck with it too...
 

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