CFZ Running Back room evaluation

[Mr_437]

Then you are wishing for the wrong thing. We need a good inside pounder, not some gazelle. Charbonnet would be an absolute beast and would change our O for the better.

Charbonnet is a really good RB imo, which, is what I said. Yes, I want a threat to go the house at any time, but I don't a banger who is less than another RB on the board who may be in the mold of TP.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Pollard broke his fibula. he may recover by the start of the season in terms of his injury healing but he won't be 100% for at least half the season of what he was before and he needs to be that.

Huh? He will be easily be 100% by training camp.

 

[charron]

Rj sucks. His best days are years behind him. Hes a very weak rb, td averse, blocking and receivibg are average at best. Yea he can be put out there as a stsrter but he will make zeke look good at this point.

 

[gimmesix]

I get no one wants to spend a 1 or 2 on a RB but no way I’m passing if BR or Gibbs are sitting there. Good backs in later rounds sure but those two are in my top 5 players in the entire draft. They are game changers

Definitely not passing on Robinson because of the value. Gibbs is tougher for me, and I'd absolutely have no problem if Dallas took him. I just think his value is pretty much equal with a player like Kancey and I really want to see Dallas finally address DT that early if he's worth it. Plus, I do think the RB depth in the draft gives us a little leeway. But again, I'm not going to be upset if it's Gibbs.

 

[gimmesix]

Huh? He will be easily be 100% by training camp.

Don't think him being healed is the problem. The mental effects of a major injury can linger. Do I trust it enough to cut without hesitation? Is my focus on the leg too much? It's hard to say how he'll handle it until he does.

Dak came back from his break and promptly messed up his shoulder trying to do too much. Then, he messed up his leg during the season trying to overcompensate.

 

[kskboys]

Charbonnet is a really good RB imo, which, is what I said. Yes, I want a threat to go the house at any time, but I don't a banger who is less than another RB on the board who may be in the mold of TP.

Drafting a clone of TP doesn't make sense. Why not get a quality banger like Charbonnet to go w/ TP? Charbonnet is a beast, will fight for yds and wear down the opposing OLine. He is exactly what the doctor ordered. Speed is actually around 4th or 5th on the list of what you look for in RBs.

 

[kskboys]

I’m not sure of your point my friend.

We need RBs. Most teams use a stable of mid round picks who play cheaply. Should we not try because they may bust?

I think it’s a better approach than a second contract to a veteran, but clearly they are going to diversify and add a rookie to Jones, Pollard and Davis.

Even then they have a decision to make on Pollard next year.

I'm just not sure this is true. Most teams get their starting RB in rounds 1-2, w/ the majority being taken in round 2.

Teams use a stable of RBs because they can't find a quality starter. It's out of necessity, not choice. No one in our division does it.

 

[fivetwos]

I'm just not sure this is true. Most teams get their starting RB in rounds 1-2, w/ the majority being taken in round 2.

Teams use a stable of RBs because they can't find a quality starter. It's out of necessity, not choice. No one in our division does it.

I think we are both wrong with use of the word “most.”

That said there is probably a distinct difference in talent level in a RB taken on Friday instead of Saturday, and it’s fine by me.

Just don’t go taking one on Thursday and I’m good. Rather fish on Saturday.

 

[kskboys]

I think we are both wrong with use of the word “most.”

That said there is probably a distinct difference in talent level in a RB taken on Friday instead of Saturday, and it’s fine by me.

Just don’t go taking one on Thursday and I’m good. Rather fish on Saturday.

A RB in the first round must be a game changer. Robinson in the 1st is a no brainer, and possibly Charbonnet.

I don't think so. I glanced at it quickly, but there were mostly 2nd rounders.

Now, I'm going to cuss you for making me do this research, but it's a friendly cussing!!!

Starting RB's for the 2022 season by round:

1st: 8
2nd: 12
3rd: 6
4th: 2
5th: 1
6th: 1
7th: 0
UFA: 2

And, while going over the Rb starters, very very few teams do this RB by committee thing. That's what a team does out of necessity when they can't find a starter quality.
So, the myths that have been busted:


#1: You can find all sorts of quality RBs in the 4th and later. Not true.
#2: Most teams use a RB by committee. Not true.
#3: Most teams find their starters in the 3rd round and later. Not true. 20 of 32 teams found their RB in the 1st or 2nd. And only 6 teams found their RBs after the first 3 rounds.

I know these ideas about RB by committee and might as well wait til the 4th have been passed around as fact, but they are quite simply not true.

 

[Mr_437]

Drafting a clone of TP doesn't make sense. Why not get a quality banger like Charbonnet to go w/ TP? Charbonnet is a beast, will fight for yds and wear down the opposing OLine. He is exactly what the doctor ordered. Speed is actually around 4th or 5th on the list of what you look for in RBs.

If drafting another Top 5 RB is wrong, I don't want to be right!

 

[Rockport]

Will they make the same mistake they made with Gallup relying on a player to return to form earlier than the norm.

This is a good RB draft and they should get at least one. I might even get one with the idea of him being the starter because they have the #1 on a one year coming off an injury.

Totally different injuries. Pollard has a much better chance to return 100% than Gallup did.

 

[Motorola]

If drafting another Top 5 RB is wrong, I don't want to be right!

Luther Ingram \ April 1972 \ "(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Wanna Be Right"

 

[kskboys]

If drafting another Top 5 RB is wrong, I don't want to be right!

I'm not making any sense of that.

If you have 2 Pollards, you will suffer in short yardage and goalline situations.

 

[Mr_437]

I'm not making any sense of that.

If you have 2 Pollards, you will suffer in short yardage and goalline situations.

RB3s job.

 

[Mr_437]

Luther Ingram \ April 1972 \ "(If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Wanna Be Right"

 

[75boyz]

A RB in the first round must be a game changer. Robinson in the 1st is a no brainer, and possibly Charbonnet.

I don't think so. I glanced at it quickly, but there were mostly 2nd rounders.

Now, I'm going to cuss you for making me do this research, but it's a friendly cussing!!!

Starting RB's for the 2022 season by round:

1st: 8
2nd: 12
3rd: 6
4th: 2
5th: 1
6th: 1
7th: 0
UFA: 2

And, while going over the Rb starters, very very few teams do this RB by committee thing. That's what a team does out of necessity when they can't find a starter quality.
So, the myths that have been busted:


#1: You can find all sorts of quality RBs in the 4th and later. Not true.
#2: Most teams use a RB by committee. Not true.
#3: Most teams find their starters in the 3rd round and later. Not true. 20 of 32 teams found their RB in the 1st or 2nd. And only 6 teams found their RBs after the first 3 rounds.

I know these ideas about RB by committee and might as well wait til the 4th have been passed around as fact, but they are quite simply not true.

Very strong fact supported post.
Nice job.
BUT I'm still crossing my fingers for a 3rd rd RB cuz I'm an OL and DL kinda guy in the 1st and 2nd.

 

[CATCH17]

The first round only works best if Robinson is there at 26. Practically everyone has him ranked as a top-five talent. Personally, I don’t like taking an RB in the first round. By the time they start to decline another position is in their prime. The three teams that had the top rushers last season, the Raiders, Titans and Browns all missed the playoffs. You score points and create big plays with the passing game. You have to have efficient QB play to win games. The game is different now than it was 30 years ago and a lot of games are put on the shoulders of the QB. I would like to see the Cowboys take a TE with their first pick if a real good one is there. We need to replace Dalton Schultz, and although our young TE’s have potential the jury is still out. Would love to end up with a Travis Kelce or George Kittle type at TE.

I agree but 5 seasons of elite RB play is still 5 seasons.

If you’re choosing between Zeke and Ramsey then yeah you should probably take Ramsey but if it’s Zeke and a lesser talent then give me 5 years of Zeke over say 8 years of Vander Esch.

Bijan, and even Gibbs, will likely make a bigger impact then most of the guys we can draft.

But I’m down to pass on them. There is always next year and Pollard is elite for now.

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

BUT I'm still crossing my fingers for a 3rd rd RB cuz I'm an OL and DL kinda guy in the 1st and 2nd.

That's exactly what I would like in rounds 1 and 2 also.

What scares me is there is going to be a run on RB's before Dallas picks late in the third. Many will be surprised how many of the good ones are gone by then. Fans hoping to snag someone like Spears for example, or other backs in that tier at the end of the third will be disappointed.

If Pollard goes down or fails to perform, I don't have a lot of confidence in what's on the roster behind him.

 

[DuncanIso]

That's exactly what I would like in rounds 1 and 2 also.

What scares me is there is going to be a run on RB's before Dallas picks late in the third. Many will be surprised how many of the good ones are gone by then. Fans hoping to snag someone like Spears for example, or other backs in that tier at the end of the third will be disappointed.

If Pollard goes down or fails to perform, I don't have a lot of confidence in what's on the roster behind him.

that is the worry.

Pollard's leg was wrecked.

I think we pick a RB in round 1-2 just to be safe.

 

[kskboys]

RB3s job.

Disagree.