Running the Seattle Defense

[Echo9]

So Hatcher is in charge of PR now?

Do you think that the players aren't told what to say when they go on radio shows? Seriously?

 

[CyberB0b]

Alan Branch isn't a nose tackle for them. He's a 3 tech gap shooter because he naturally plays high and sucks at anchoring at the point of attack (which is why he was a failure as a two gapper in Arizona's 3-4) . Brandon Mebane is their 1 tech who at 310 lbs. occupies the guard and center gap just by being quick off the snap and short/squatty enough to use leverage to anchor.

If the Cowboys ran a similar 4-3 over/under base, I'm assuming the translation would be as follows...

"Leo" 9-tech - Chris Clemons - > Ware

1 tech - Brandon Mebane --> Ratliff

3 Tech - Alan Branch --> Hatcher

5 Tech - Red Bryant --> Crawford

Interesting. Can't really run a T2 variant with corners playing that off. It looks like that is just a sub package or something that Kiffin wouldn't run very often.

 

[supercowboy8]

Interesting. Can't really run a T2 variant with corners playing that off. It looks like that is just a sub package or something that Kiffin wouldn't run very often.

That is a sub package, look at howthe offense is bundled up so it brings the defense together. Usually the base is press man and Branch is over head of the RG and Mebane is in the gap between the C and LG

 

[BAT]

Carroll's 4-3 under has more in common with Tom Landry than Monte Kiffin. **should add Belichek of course.

He's given many talks on this.

See this article.
http://trojanfootballanalysis.com/?p=308

It isn't a Tampa 2 defense at all.
Plays a ton of cover 1.

Actually makes a lot of sense for Dallas who just spent a fortune to plug in 2 man corners.


Will be interesting to watch.

And of course regardless of scheme we need better safety play than we had in 2012 where it was in the 2 or 3 worst of the entire league.

Did you even read the linked article? If you have followed Carroll's career at all you would know that he has used the 4-3 under everywhere he has been. And he learned the 4-3 under from Kiffin. Carroll has tweaked the fronts and secondary coverages but it is still essentially the 4-3 under.

Tampa 2 is a misnomer for Kiffin's 4-3 under. The 2 is for the 2 high safeties but the safeties will move around and change coverage based on what the offense shows. Kiffin played a lot of cover 2 in Tampa but that is not all he played.

Landry invented the 4-3 but his 4-3 Flex was very different. Jimmy Johnson's 4-3 Over (or Slide) was also very different as well.

 

[Bluestang]

That is a sub package, look at howthe offense is bundled up so it brings the defense together. Usually the base is press man and Branch is over head of the RG and Mebane is in the gap between the C and LG

The WRs are lined up in "nasty" splits to get the defense out of press coverage.

These type of splits usually tip their hand that they they will be routes that break towards the sidelines and a defense will play off coverage with outside leverage especially on 1st and 10s.

 

[theogt]

Bryant 2 gaps alot as a 5 technique. We dont have a player capable of doing that unless Coleman comes back or maybe Spears.

If you think about how disruptive interior pressure is it makes sense. Pressure the guards and left tackle and have your best run player over right tackle where many team's best run blocker is. Hatcher can do that. Ratliff can do it if he is here.

BTW, their SAM is lining up like Spencer did most times against 2 te-hbacks on the same side.

If don't have any players capable of 2-gapping as a 5-tech, what the hell have we been doing running a 3-4 for the past 7 years?

 

[Hoofbite]

I don't necessarily think that Kiffen meant we are going to be Seattle.

I think he was just instructing them to get an idea of what their roles might entail. Additionally\, if you listen to him talk about playing fast or whatever he's probably referring to how Seattle looks from snap to whistle, not so much where guys specifically line up.