Rush doesn't take sacks

[MountaineerCowboy]

Or when your average per attempt is pretty low.

Hes not forcing just taking what they give and not turning the ball over and relying on the defense. If dak played like rush has you guys would be crucifying him lol

Dak can't play like Rush because Dak has no idea how to read a defense.

 

[GINeric]

Top 10 is subjective and everyone's is different. There is no definitive top 10 list.

For example, Dak is not in my top 10 and his inability to read a defense is a big part of that.

Well the only solid top ten list i know of is when the league officials mathematically add up production of all quarterbacks in the NFL. Thats not opinions, thats simple mathematics. Adding is nof subjective.

 

[My3Sons]

Getting rid of the ball quick takes the pressure off your Oline. Not only is he not taking sacks, but penalties are down. We don't have a large enough sample to say this is a clear advantage Rush has over Dak, but if Rush can continue to make quick reads and get the ball out holding calls should be rare.

I would add that Dak fumbles more from sitting in the pocket too long. His past fumbles have been killer.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Well the only solid top ten list i know of is when the league officials mathematically add up production of all quarterbacks in the NFL. Thats not opinions, thats simple mathematics. Adding is nof subjective.

That's stats.

You shouldn't rely on stats to tell you who is and is not good.

You should watch the games and form your own opinions.

 

[shabazz]

Or when your average per attempt is pretty low.

Hes not forcing just taking what they give and not turning the ball over and relying on the defense. If dak played like rush has you guys would be crucifying him lol

If Dak only had 3 starts and was taking up less than 1% of the teams salary cap I would say he had a damn good game…….but he’s a 7 year veteran taking up almost 20% of the teams cap….apples to oranges

 

[GINeric]

That's stats.

You shouldn't rely on stats to tell you who is and is not good.

You should watch the games and form your own opinions.

I do watch the games and form my own opinions. Its just ironic that a player's production can be added up and it landed him in the top ten last season. This is a new season and he got off to a rough stop so who knows what will happen this season....

But real production can't be ignored. Its production added up for each quarterback in the league. Those are not opinions, those are facts.

I currently love the PRODUCTION Rush is putting up right now. Spin jobs can beat out opinions, but it certainly can't beat out factual production.

You expect to be taken seriously when you had Dak behind Grier. You believe Dak is the third best quarterback on our roster and thats fine, i won't judge you. Just like i don't judge people in mental wards who believe they see people who aren't really in the room. I respect all of your beliefs.

 

[unionjack8]

They said before the game that he is the 2nd fastest QB to get the ball out that's played this season.

That's what happens when you can read a defense.

Yep, and don't try to be a hero.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I do watch the games and form my own opinions. Its just ironic that a player's production can be added up and it landed him in the top ten last season. This is a new season and he got off to a rough stop so who knows what will happen this season....

But real production can't be ignored. Its production added up for each quarterback in the league. Those are not opinions, those are facts.

I currently love the PRODUCTION Rush is putting up right now. Spin jobs can beat out opinions, but it certainly can't beat out factual production.

You expect to be taken seriously when you had Dak behind Grier. You believe Dak is the third best quarterback on our roster and thats fine, i won't judge you. Just like i don't judge people in mental wards who believe they see people who aren't really in the room. I respect all of your beliefs.

I just don't understand why you get so upset because I personally don't see Dak the same way you do.

It's weird, dude. You shouldn't care that much about what I think about Dak.

 

[Hennessy_King]

If Dak only had 3 starts and was taking up less than 1% of the teams salary cap I would say he had a damn good game…….but he’s a 7 year veteran taking up almost 20% of the teams cap….apples to oranges

Pretty sure dak played that way in all of 2016 and was killed that he couldn't throw over 200 yards a game. The fans of this team just flip flop and move the goalposts because its dak and are still butthurt he took romos job.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Dak can't play like Rush because Dak has no idea how to read a defense.

You kno this isnt true. Stop it. Or link a credible source that backs this up. And no papsmear is not a credible source

 

[shabazz]

Pretty sure dak played that way in all of 2016 and was killed that he couldn't throw over 200 yards a game. The fans of this team just flip flop and move the goalposts because its dak and are still butthurt he took romos job.

The big difference is that the 2016 offense was All Pro and more was expected from a 4th round player than an UDFA.

Believe me Hennessey, I'm still critical if having a QB that had 1 career start as insurance when we left 10 million of salary cap money on the table

I need more than 3 games to sell me but so far he's playing as good as he can be expected without full compliment of receivers and an offensive line that almost everyone said was trash after game 1

 

[visionary]

- First off, credit the OL unit,.. one that is playing without Tyron, McGovern, and is getting excellent play out of a rookie that didn't see training camp/preseason time
at LT. per Game 1,
Center Tyler B is playing adequately and Steele has bounced back from a flag filled Bucs game; We're getting by with reserve Farniok, he's been up and down.

- Then the 2nd credit does go to Rush, who sets up quickly, reads and gets rid of the ball quickly .. He still has to " float' thrown balls instead of being able to power drive ball downfield,
But at least those floaters have a chance to get to the receivers.
I was worried that Rush would be one that holds the ball for sacks but he doesn't.

- Kudos to the OC, OL and RBs that add an effective run game that the last two opponents have to respect.

- - Seems like Stephen is gonna have to pay more than what he prefers to for a vet backup QB next offseason.

suddenly with our back up QB the OL is better, the coaches can coach, the game plan was better

Everything suddenly got better?

hmmmm….

 

[CowboyRoy]

1 against the Bengals last week. 0 against the giants last night.

If it's not there he gets rid of it. Dak too many times holds it and ends up taking drive killing sacks.

Rush played better than anyone could have expected last night. If not for the drops his numbers would look spectacular.

Rush hasnt been playing the Bucs defense each weak. And the Oline has played very well the last two weeks in both the pass protection and a run game to go with it.

I guess you didnt watch the last quarter of the Bucs game where he was sacked and was under constant pressure.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

You kno this isnt true. Stop it. Or link a credible source that backs this up. And no papsmear is not a credible source

At some point you're going to have to recognize what Dak is as a QB. I believe you will get there like some already have.

I can't show you anything that you will accept. You just have to make up your own mind and I would hope that you have the maturity to change your mind on things if you believe you're wrong.

 

[morat1959]

If Dak is top 10 then Cooper Rush is top 8.

Lol!

 

[morat1959]

I just don't understand why you get so upset because I personally don't see Dak the same way you do.

It's weird, dude. You shouldn't care that much about what I think about Dak.

Dat him boy pen!

 

[Cboyfan4ever]

Dak can't play like Rush because Dak has no idea how to read a defense.

Doesn’t have the football intelligence of Cooper.Cooper is cerebral,well prepared,as he is a film study junkie.Actually has the ability to read a D extremely quickly & is accurate.Just lacks arm strength and athleticism.

 

[shabazz]

Doesn’t have the football intelligence of Cooper.Cooper is cerebral,well prepared,as he is a film study junkie.Actually has the ability to read a D extremely quickly & is accurate.Just lacks arm strength and athleticism.

The lack of arm strength and athleticism rears its ugly head in games with high winds or inclement weather. That's why we need a bigger sample size to truly evaluate the player

 

[lukin2006]

Cooper Rush has some moxie. Prescott is arrogant and quite frankly I hope they stick with Rush…

Cooper beat last years AFC champ and has went into Minnesota and NY and won. Both very hostile environments…

 

[stilltheguru]

Dak smh. What a disappointment. In 6ear 7 in the SAME offense and can't manipulate a defense.