Ryan Moats Accepts Officer's Apology

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5Stars;2709800 said:
I admit, my guitar playing sucks...but I would have turned my back on the cop and ran into the Hospital. If he shot me in the back while I was runnning, well, then he's a coward.


Tow my car...arrest me in a few after you find me, but I guarantee that I would have put one last kiss on my loved one.

I don't think you suck, I'm just saying you wouldn't provoke an armed man
 

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Bleu Star;2709794 said:
I would have done the same thing. I would have looked at him, explained the situation clearly, locked my ride, and then followed the track meet into the hospital while offering him an opportunity to follow if he'd like. That's what I think I would have done. Now, had he pulled a gun and held me back, I probably would have regretted my actions later...


It's a freaking Emergency Room! How that bastid could not figure that out is beyond belief!

Shoot me! Shoot me in the back as I run...then what?

And to think, God Bless his soul...my brother is a retired Dallas Police Officer.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2709803 said:
I don't think you suck, I'm just saying you wouldn't provoke an armed man


Provoke?

What the hell you talking about?

As soon as I got out of my ride...I'm gone into the building! Follow me if you wish, or shoot me.
 

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5Stars;2709805 said:
It's a freaking Emergency Room! How that bastid could not figure that out is beyond belief!

Shoot me! Shoot me in the back as I run...then what?

LOL

That's exactly what baffles me too. The guy runs a red light and steams towards an ER with the hazard lights on.

Hello? Anyone in there? knock knock.

I would have calmly given him the scenario and then said "you're going to have to shoot me in the back because I am going to see my loved one before she checks out" (in my best Clint Eastwood voice).
 

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Bleu Star;2709810 said:
LOL

That's exactly what baffles me too. The guy runs a red light and steams towards an ER with the hazard lights on.

Hello? Anyone in there? knock knock.

I would have calmly given him the scenario and then said "you're going to have to shoot me in the back because I am going to see my loved one before she checks out" (in my best Clint Eastwood voice).

you should go for the Ving Rhames
 

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does anyone know why a gun was pulled in the first place? I didn't watch the video, but that sounds a lot like improper procedure to me...

I wouldn't accept any apology he gave me and I would file a lawsuit on the guy.
 

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Here's an option. (see title) :p: I do hate that the race card was mentioned but otherwise found the quasi article to be interesting so here I share (eww.. it's that bleacher report again).

Forget Firing Officer Powell, Make Him Suit Up For the Detroit Lions

One of the more surreal stories the National Football League has ever spawned is developing in Dallas, Texas.

Considering all the chaos issuing forth from the NFL on an annual basis, that's saying something. It's so bizarre on so many levels, it's pushing even the memory of Terrell Owens to the back of the football world's mind despite taking place in the city that just gave him the boot (don't think TO hasn't noticed).

I'm glad I'm not Robert Powell in the wake of this story. Because I suspect he'll get exactly what he deserves and it shan't be pretty.

It seems Ryan Moats wasn't the first NFL player to be held at the mercy of this infant on a power trip. Although Zach Thomas wasn't the one cuffed and arrested for making an illegal u-turn, his wife is a close proxy and, in several instances, the law views one spouse as an extension of the other so the stretch is not a huge one.

There are several ways to interpret this latest news:

(1) Powell has a personal vendetta against pro football players because the odds of two people with direct connections to the League being his random victims are too small.

(2) Powell is a racist bigot—Maritza Thomas is Latin American. The Dallas Morning News calls her "Hispanic," but I thought that's a no-no. Whatever, I'm not really politically correct anyway since I don't care what race, religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, etc. a person self-identifies as—it's all cool with me as long as you don't force it down my throat.

Shoot, a far worse crime than anything you could be from that list is being a Dodger fan and I'm willing to overlook even that.

The point is Maritza Thomas ain't white and neither are Ryan Moats nor the occupants of his truck. Robert Powell is.

(3) Powell is simply a perfect example of one abhorrent cop splashing mud all over the good shields of his fellow officers—drunk with the ripples he can send through his little pond.

If you ask me, I say it's No. 3.

That both Maritza Thomas and Ryan Moats happen to be connected to the millionaire-celebrity lifestyle of the NFL has to be mere coincidence. It's a crazy one to be sure—one level of surreality—but life is full of crazy coincidences.

My freshmen year in college, I happened to be put in the same dorm as a kid I used to trade Star Wars action figures with back in preschool. I had absolutely no connection to him in the 10-plus years since then because we went to different kindergartens and then my family moved to San Francisco.

Plus, I only ran across his name looking through the facebook (the real thing before it was a cyberspace phenomenon) for cute freshmen girls. Otherwise, I would've never known he was there because of the way Stanford segments some of its larger dorms.

And that's one example—I'm sure other people have far more impressive offerings.

The racism angle is, frankly, plausible. And this is coming from someone who loathes the race card.

Given the context, it's at least reasonable to argue this is another crazy cracker, good ol' boy from Texas going around and exploiting minor transgressions to their fullest extent under the letter of the law. Just to screw with minorities and establish an illusory dominance over them.

I lived in Austin for a year.

The capital is almost without a doubt the most liberal city in the Lone Star state, or it was in 2001 (admittedly, that's a pretty long time so things may have changed). Even so, I'd hear the n-word dropped in casual conversation on what seemed like a daily basis. Not just by young kids and bitter senior citizens, and in no way that could be construed as harmless or innocent.

In addition, the State was executing people like crazy. Most of whom were people of color and most of the crimes were not of the incredibly grotesque nature for which liberal use of the death penalty should be reserved.

So it's plausible, but the same coincidence rationale applies and with ever more force.

The number of non-white people in Dallas is obviously and exponentially larger than the number of people directly connected to the NFL or some other approximation. Furthermore, I have no real idea what the racial atmosphere is like in Dallas or Texas today.

My first-hand experience is from another city and damn near a decade ago. I'll give Texas the benefit of the doubt and extend it to Robert Powell via the State's implicit endorsement of him.

More importantly, what makes the interpretation of the episodes a no-brainer for me is we've all seen these kinds of authority figures.

Whether it's a cop in your own city, a security guard at some mall, some yard duty at a high school, a junior officer in your company, whatever. They're people who crave power and abuse whatever little bit of it they have.

Especially against those he/she sees as the biggest threats. And a control freak like Powell would logically feel most threatened by those who aren't intimidated by his pseudo-power. It's clear that, under the circumstances, the Moats entourage wasn't intimidated.

And it's not a stretch that the wife of an NFL superstar might exude an entitled, overly-aggressive attitude. Bingo, out come the handcuffs.

Robert Powell may be jealous of anyone with money and glamour. He may be a card-carrying member of the Ku Klux Klan. Who knows? I certainly do not.

I just think the law of probability favors something we've all personally experienced backed by logical inference rather than reasonable-though-less-likely alternatives that would cause much more of a firestorm.

Unfortunately, some people like to inject as much incendiary scandal into an episode as possible and exploit mere coincidence to do so. But it's just wrong to assign causal relationships between things on such meager data as a sample set of two.

So, as paradigms of journalistic integrity like ESPN await further "progress" with salivating anticipation, I'm taking everything with a grain of salt because the most likely story is the one that will move the least ink.

Which means it's probably the one that's gonna get the least attention.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...powell-make-him-suit-up-for-the-detroit-lions
 

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If he keeps this behavior up someone is going to see him outside of work and knock his head off.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2709771 said:
what did you guys expect Moats to do? attack the gun-wielding police officer?
I might have at least said some very choice words. I definitely would have insulted him at some point. I am pretty sure that i couldn't padlock my mouth enough to prevent that. Moats didn't even do that even though it was obvious the Officer was on a power trip.
 

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Bleu Star;2709794 said:
I would have done the same thing. I would have looked at him, explained the situation clearly, locked my ride, and then followed the track meet into the hospital while offering him an opportunity to follow if he'd like. That's what I think I would have done. Now, had he pulled a gun and held me back, I probably would have regretted my actions later...

That type of action probably would have gotten you Tazed.
 

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links18;2710050 said:
That type of action probably would have gotten you Tazed.

Yeah they love to use those.

They love hearing the "Aaaaahhhhhh!!!!"
 

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links18;2710050 said:
That type of action probably would have gotten you Tazed.

I doubt he would've put his gun back in his holster just to get a tazer out...
 

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Audiman;2710151 said:
I doubt he would've put his gun back in his holster just to get a tazer out...

Why kill someone when you can just subject them to excruciating pain that brings them just to the brink of death, but from which they will eventually fully recover? :confused:
 

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links18;2710202 said:
Why kill someone when you can just subject them to excruciating pain that brings them just to the brink of death, but from which they will eventually fully recover? :confused:
why pull a gun in the first place?
 

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Moats seems like a real good guy, but hard for me to believe the apology was sincere
 

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Lodeus;2710225 said:
Moats seems like a real good guy, but hard for me to believe the apology was sincere

same here

guy seems like a major prick, has been for quite some time, and is only apologizing since he's been caught
 
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