Ryan Moats Accepts Officer's Apology

Remember, it was Moat's Mother-in-Law NOT his mother. So I extremely doubt he was willing to take a chance at being shot to go to her side unlike if it was his own mother (I realize some mother-in-laws are better than some mothers, but most just aren't as beloved by the son-in-law as their own mothers). We really don't know how close Moats was to his wife's mother. He might of even hated her for all we know.

Now Moat's wife apparently DID risk being shot and ran to her mother's side and was there when she died. She is the person who the officer really, really owes the apology to (though regardless, he should still be fired).
 
He's a good man for handling it properly, because not everyone would have remained as civil as he did, and he's an even better person for accepting an appology, which probably isn't a true one in the first place, and just getting on with his life.

he's not spending a lot of wasted time, and energy, on hate or anger with the situation. That's the mark of a really good person.

I tip my hat to Mr. Moats.
 
BraveHeartFan;2710482 said:
He's a good man for handling it properly, because not everyone would have remained as civil as he did, and he's an even better person for accepting an appology, which probably isn't a true one in the first place, and just getting on with his life.

he's not spending a lot of wasted time, and energy, on hate or anger with the situation. That's the mark of a really good person.

I tip my hat to Mr. Moats.

True, true, and true
 
BraveHeartFan;2710482 said:
He's a good man for handling it properly, because not everyone would have remained as civil as he did, and he's an even better person for accepting an appology, which probably isn't a true one in the first place, and just getting on with his life.

he's not spending a lot of wasted time, and energy, on hate or anger with the situation. That's the mark of a really good person.

I tip my hat to Mr. Moats.

So if he hires a lawyer and sues the city of Dallas, does that make him a bad person? :rolleyes:
 
Yeah nice apology through his lawyers (who wrote it no doubt)...after his *** and job were on the line.

I wouldn't accept an apology through a lawyer.
 
ConcordCowboy;2710613 said:
Yeah nice apology through his lawyers (who wrote it no doubt)...after his *** and job were on the line.

I wouldn't accept an apology through a lawyer.

I was just about to post the exact same thing

If I'm Moats and you're Powell and you want to apologize to me, don't BS me with "statements released through lawyers". Be a man, like you think you are, and apologize to me yourself

unfreakin-believable.
 
The Moats' graciousness and generosity is a thing to behold.

However . . . by being this gracious, I wonder if the Moats are being enablers to this officer's zealousness in "protecting" the public.

I had given the officer the benefit of the doubt, because in instances like this, the officer has to be skeptical and careful.
But when Zach Thomas let it be known that his wife, too, was a victim of this officer's aggressiveness, I began to think Powell was one of those officers who happens to be a recurring bully.

Again, the Moats have turned the other cheek, but maybe it's time the victims and the department put the boot to Powell's career as an officer. At least reassign him for good to a desk where he can't hurt others.
 
GimmeTheBall!;2710781 said:
The Moats' graciousness and generosity is a thing to behold.

However . . . by being this gracious, I wonder if the Moats are being enablers to this officer's zealousness in "protecting" the public.

I had given the officer the benefit of the doubt, because in instances like this, the officer has to be skeptical and careful.
But when Zach Thomas let it be known that his wife, too, was a victim of this officer's aggressiveness, I began to think Powell was one of those officers who happens to be a recurring bully.

Again, the Moats have turned the other cheek, but maybe it's time the victims and the department put the boot to Powell's career as an officer. At least reassign him for good to a desk where he can't hurt others.

Not sure why it is so obligatory to accept the apology of a bully issued through his legal mouthpiece. The officer's conduct, while probably legal, was completely unprofessional. This isn't some dude with whom he had a disagreement at the bar. This was an armed officer of the state. They need to be held to a higher standard for the public's sake.
 
links18;2710801 said:
Not sure why it is so obligatory to accept the apology of a bully issued through his legal mouthpiece. The officer's conduct, while probably legal, was completely unprofessional. This isn't some dude with whom he had a disagreement at the bar. This was an armed officer of the state. They need to be held to a higher standard for the public's sake.

Fully agree that it was not at all obligatory...Moats had every right not to forgive him. That is why it showed another level of character when he did.

Personally, I would hope this young officer learns to operate with more common sense vs just going by what he thinks is "by the book".

However, his history seems to point at this being more than very poor judgement...and maybe just plain poor character. But we don't know that for sure and for all we know the guy ends up saving lives and being a model cop later in life. Again, I kind of doubt it.
 
JerryAdvocate;2709803 said:
I don't think you suck, I'm just saying you wouldn't provoke an armed man


Well the drunk guy in the song 18 & Life by Skid Row did but then again, look where it got him, dead and it got Jessie 18 and Life ;)
 
Dhragon;2710478 said:
Remember, it was Moat's Mother-in-Law NOT his mother. So I extremely doubt he was willing to take a chance at being shot to go to her side unlike if it was his own mother (I realize some mother-in-laws are better than some mothers, but most just aren't as beloved by the son-in-law as their own mothers). We really don't know how close Moats was to his wife's mother. He might of even hated her for all we know.

Now Moat's wife apparently DID risk being shot and ran to her mother's side and was there when she died. She is the person who the officer really, really owes the apology to (though regardless, he should still be fired).
For the police out there, I am confused...........Is it legal to shoot a suspect who isnt armed in the back while running away? I thought it wasn't, but I keep seeing reference to Moats possibly getting shot unarmed.
 
dogunwo;2711664 said:
For the police out there, I am confused...........Is it legal to shoot a suspect who isnt armed in the back while running away? I thought it wasn't, but I keep seeing reference to Moats possibly getting shot unarmed.

I can't possibly see how that would be legal (but I have no idea)
 
dogunwo;2711664 said:
For the police out there, I am confused...........Is it legal to shoot a suspect who isnt armed in the back while running away? I thought it wasn't, but I keep seeing reference to Moats possibly getting shot unarmed.

Of course not....unless the guy had just killed someone with his bare hands.

This part of the story has ogtten a life of its own. When everyone got out the car without being asked to, the officer drew his weapon. There was no threat beyond that. It is scary to think what could have possibly transpired if Moats had not kept his head. The officer was being a dick for sure.
 

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