Ryan Switzer Creates Nickname for him and Cole Beasley

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Yes. Now that is white people making up nicknames at it's best...:muttley:
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Could go for days with that movie....

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Well, unless he supplants Beasley, I still don't see it. Because at the end of the day both Switz and Beas are slot receivers; their size dictates that. So, in order for him to get the amount of touches necessary for rookie of the year honors, he would have to leapfrog Beasley...he has the talent to eventually do that, but I don't see it happening in his first year...2nd year might even be a stretch. I do think the Cowboys will operate in the 10 personnel grouping (4 wide receiver set) more as a result of his acquisition and I could definitely see him making a serious splash given the level of talent he will be surrounded by, but unless the Cowboys are in the 10, chances are Switz will be on the bench meaning his snap count could be in the teens at the end of the day. So, again, while I would absolutely love to see Switzer garner that type of consideration, I simply don't see the coaching staff moving him up the depth chart that fast, especially considering that right now given Beasley's understanding of the offense and his experience against NFL level competition, he is by a country mile the better receiver over Switzer. Like I said earlier, that could change really quick...I just don't see it happening in Switzer's first year...but I seriously hope I'm wrong!
Switzer can play outside and has lined up there already. He also been running the jet sweep. Not sure why some think he is slot only
 

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I'm not saying he can't line up outside; I'm saying the coaches likely won't line him up outside...or, at least, not very often.
They already have. I said he could play outside before the draft and reports showing Dallas feels the same way. Plus Dak love's him.

I'm a huge Switzer fan and have been for some time now. Can't wait for my Cowboy brethren get to see him in live action. He will have a Dak type preseason.....and return at least 1 punt.
 

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They already have. I said he could play outside before the draft and reports showing Dallas feels the same way. Plus Dak love's him.

I'm a huge Switzer fan and have been for some time now. Can't wait for my Cowboy brethren get to see him in live action. He will have a Dak type preseason.....and return at least 1 punt.
Okay, so, you followed Switzer as a Tarheel. I can certainly understand your enthusiasm then. He was a little monster for the Tar Heels and in my opinion is the predominant reason Mitch Trubisky was drafted 2nd overall. And that is also why I think he may just be considered a draft day steal by season end. My concern is not so much rather or not he can make the leap from college to the NFL, but rather if the coaches will see him as an upgrade over any of the top 3 receivers (Beasley, Dez, Twill). Because if they don't, the only time we will get to see Switzer is in the aforementioned 10 package...and while I think they'll use it more than they have in the past, I just don't see them using it enough to make him stand out like, for instance, how Corey Davis will be used with the Titans. Corey Davis is going there more than likely to be the top dog...so they will likely force feed Davis balls to justify drafting him in the first round. No such pressure exist for the coaches of the Cowboys regarding Switzer. So, in other words, the issue is more political than it is a lack of size or talent on Switzer's part.
 

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Okay, so, you followed Switzer as a Tarheel. I can certainly understand your enthusiasm then. He was a little monster for the Tar Heels and in my opinion is the predominant reason Mitch Trubisky was drafted 2nd overall. And that is also why I think he may just be considered a draft day steal by season end. My concern is not so much rather or not he can make the leap from college to the NFL, but rather if the coaches will see him as an upgrade over any of the top 3 receivers (Beasley, Dez, Twill). Because if they don't, the only time we will get to see Switzer is in the aforementioned 10 package...and while I think they'll use it more than they have in the past, I just don't see them using it enough to make him stand out like, for instance, how Corey Davis will be used with the Titans. Corey Davis is going there more than likely to be the top dog...so they will likely force feed Davis balls to justify drafting him in the first round. No such pressure exist for the coaches of the Cowboys regarding Switzer. So, in other words, the issue is more political than it is a lack of size or talent on Switzer's part.
UNC fan my whole life. Trubisky has tons of potential but Mack Hollins (hate he went to Philly, like Nicks went to NY) Bug Howard and Switzer were really good.

I understand what your saying but Switzer will keep making plays and will force more plays. He is one of the most clutch receivers I have ever seen in college. He was huge not just for Trubisky but Williams as well.
 

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UNC fan my whole life. Trubisky has tons of potential but Mack Hollins (hate he went to Philly, like Nicks went to NY) Bug Howard and Switzer were really good.

I understand what your saying but Switzer will keep making plays and will force more plays. He is one of the most clutch receivers I have ever seen in college. He was huge not just for Trubisky but Williams as well.
I personally don't follow the Tar Heels, but after we drafted Switzer, I went back and watched everything I could find and came away extremely impressed. Following his 5 returns for TD's as a freshmen, he dictated where the punter would put the ball for the rest of his college career. If he can do just that for the Cowboys and nothing else, he is already a steal.

But of all the things I question in terms of how his skillsets will translate to the NFL, punt returning is first and foremost. Not that I don't think he can be successful at it; given his size, one bad hit could end his career. I think the best value he offers is as a slot receiver opposite Beasley...you might even be able to talk me into keeping Lucky, if it means keeping Switzer out of harms way.

What do you think?
 

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I personally don't follow the Tar Heels, but after we drafted Switzer, I went back and watched everything I could find and came away extremely impressed. Following his 5 returns for TD's as a freshmen, he dictated where the punter would put the ball for the rest of his college career. If he can do just that for the Cowboys and nothing else, he is already a steal.

But of all the things I question in terms of how his skillsets will translate to the NFL, punt returning is first and foremost. Not that I don't think he can be successful at it; given his size, one bad hit could end his career. I think the best value he offers is as a slot receiver opposite Beasley...you might even be able to talk me into keeping Lucky, if it means keeping Switzer out of harms way.

What do you think?
Well that can be said for player, 1 hit is all it takes. Switzer is stronger then Beasley and is tough as nails.

Lucky is gone and once you see Switzer in action no way you want him only returning punts. He is too talented not to play on offense.

I rather keep Brown or Jones then Lucky
 

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Well that can be said for player, 1 hit is all it takes. Switzer is stronger then Beasley and is tough as nails.

Lucky is gone and once you see Switzer in action no way you want him only returning punts. He is too talented not to play on offense.

I rather keep Brown or Jones then Lucky
No, that's what I was saying. If there is any risk of him getting hurt returning punts, then I would definitely keep Lucky just to preclude him from that responsibility because in terms of his value, he might be a better receiver than anything, from what I've seen of him. He runs ridiculously crisp routes, he catches everything in his radius and actually looks to have better run after the catch ability than anyone currently on the team for the exception of Zeke. I'd love to see him field punts for the Cowboys but not at the cost of losing him as a receiver.
 

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No, that's what I was saying. If there is any risk of him getting hurt returning punts, then I would definitely keep Lucky just to preclude him from that responsibility because in terms of his value, he might be a better receiver than anything, from what I've seen of him. He runs ridiculously crisp routes, he catches everything in his radius and actually looks to have better run after the catch ability than anyone currently on the team for the exception of Zeke. I'd love to see him field punts for the Cowboys but not at the cost of losing him as a receiver.
Oh ok.i read that wrong. I agree he is important for the offense but look at Brown for Pittsburgh, D Jax with Philly, Beckham with NY. Switzer is smarter then all those guys and while injury is high on returns Switzer hasn't shown any injury prone type so far. He is too explosive not to be returning punts
 

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Oh ok.i read that wrong. I agree he is important for the offense but look at Brown for Pittsburgh, D Jax with Philly, Beckham with NY. Switzer is smarter then all those guys and while injury is high on returns Switzer hasn't shown any injury prone type so far. He is too explosive not to be returning punts
Now that you mention it, I did notice something from the video that has been circulating of him catching a pass from Dak. You will notice as he hit the turf he rolled into the impact (absorbing it) and allowed his momentum to carry himself back up to his feet. That is textbook injury prevention. So I can kinda see your point there. The thing that specifically worries me is all the punts I watched him field in college where he probably should have called for a fair catch. There were times he took the ball with players a few yards away. Hopefully the Cowboys coaches drill into his head that the majority of the time chancing an injury...or worse, a turnover (I keed)...is just simply not worth it.
 

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Okay, so, you followed Switzer as a Tarheel. I can certainly understand your enthusiasm then. He was a little monster for the Tar Heels and in my opinion is the predominant reason Mitch Trubisky was drafted 2nd overall. And that is also why I think he may just be considered a draft day steal by season end. My concern is not so much rather or not he can make the leap from college to the NFL, but rather if the coaches will see him as an upgrade over any of the top 3 receivers (Beasley, Dez, Twill). Because if they don't, the only time we will get to see Switzer is in the aforementioned 10 package...and while I think they'll use it more than they have in the past, I just don't see them using it enough to make him stand out like, for instance, how Corey Davis will be used with the Titans. Corey Davis is going there more than likely to be the top dog...so they will likely force feed Davis balls to justify drafting him in the first round. No such pressure exist for the coaches of the Cowboys regarding Switzer. So, in other words, the issue is more political than it is a lack of size or talent on Switzer's part.

If this staff lets Switzer waste his talents by not getting enough play time, they will be even worse than they already are. There is a lot of potential to be had with what he brings and how you can open it up for Dez/TWill on the outside even more.

But if any staff can be as ignorant as that, it is this one.
 

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Now that you mention it, I did notice something from the video that has been circulating of him catching a pass from Dak. You will notice as he hit the turf he rolled into the impact (absorbing it) and allowed his momentum to carry himself back up to his feet. That is textbook injury prevention. So I can kinda see your point there. The thing that specifically worries me is all the punts I watched him field in college where he probably should have called for a fair catch. There were times he took the ball with players a few yards away. Hopefully the Cowboys coaches drill into his head that the majority of the time chancing an injury...or worse, a turnover (I keed)...is just simply not worth it.
He is sneaky and if teams don't pay attention he won't call fair catch and take off. NFL players tend to watch more closer and he could get the lights knocked out him. He is smart and I think he will be fine......I hope
 
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