Sagittarius A, the first image of the center of your galaxy

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

On and off topic, did anyone catch the blood moon lunar eclipse last night? Happened at an inconvenient time, Sunday night into early Monday morning…. But right around 12:30 AM in most parts of the country, it was quite the view. Felt like Mars was right next to us or something you would see you in a science-fiction planet skyline.

I wanted to see it but I missed it. Forgot all about it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

On and off topic, did anyone catch the blood moon lunar eclipse last night? Happened at an inconvenient time, Sunday night into early Monday morning…. But right around 12:30 AM in most parts of the country, it was quite the view. Felt like Mars was right next to us or something you would see you in a science-fiction planet skyline.

“There’s no animal big enough to cover the moon in blood.” — Oz

 

[nobody]

“There’s no animal big enough to cover the moon in blood.” — Oz

Rosie O'Donnel. *drops mic*

 

[Hoofbite]

who would you deem worthy?

There are two types of people on this planet.

1. People who like Journey
2. Liars

Pretty sure we just narrow down the selection process to #2. The rest will take care of itself.

 

[Runwildboys]

Yeah, three subatomic particles.

Except in the case of hydrogen.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

So NASA says the sun formed from a cloud of dust and gases. The static electricity from all of this debris caused a center of gravity to appear. Very similar to how the Earth was formed also. So my static electricity building up to create gravity in an object theory isn't as far fetched as some might think.

But the one thing that has always thrown me for a loop was the burning of hydrogen at the sun's core. I finally found a website that worded things a little different. The sun isn't actually burning the hydrogen as in flames, heat and destruction. It's burning through the hydrogen by compressing it into helium. So the gravitational field of the sun is pulling hydrogen towards its core and compressing it into helium. And the transference from hydrogen to helium creates heat and light. Because the hydrogen which has no nuclei is all of a sudden is given one. So it's basically being crushed until it implodes. Burning through 5 million tons of hydrogen per day. But still having enough to last for another 4 billion years. The heat and light from the implosion travels up and out in every direction.

But no probes nor humans have made it to the core of the sun. So this is still all a theory to me. Who knows it could have a spinning metal core just like Earth. Or two spinning metal cores, spinning around one another.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Except in the case of hydrogen.

True. Very true.

 

[Runwildboys]

There are two types of people on this planet.

1. People who like Journey
2. Liars

Pretty sure we just narrow down the selection process to #2. The rest will take care of itself.

Journey has some catchy melodies, but I hate most high pitched male singers. Having the ability to go high is good, but that being the default mode is grating. Steve Perry, Sting, Geddy Lee, etc. Don't like them, not lying

 

[Runwildboys]

So NASA says the sun formed from a cloud of dust and gases. The static electricity from all of this debris caused a center of gravity to appear. Very similar to how the Earth was formed also. So my static electricity building up to create gravity in an object theory isn't as far fetched as some might think.

But the one thing that has always thrown me for a loop was the burning of hydrogen at the sun's core. I finally found a website that worded things a little different. The sun isn't actually burning the hydrogen as in flames, heat and destruction. It's burning through the hydrogen by compressing it into helium. So the gravitational field of the sun is pulling hydrogen towards its core and compressing it into helium. And the transference from hydrogen to helium creates heat and light. Because the hydrogen which has no nuclei is all of a sudden is given one. So it's basically being crushed until it implodes. Burning through 5 million tons of hydrogen per day. But still having enough to last for another 4 billion years. The heat and light from the implosion travels up and out in every direction.

But no probes nor humans have made it to the core of the sun. So this is still all a theory to me. Who knows it could have a spinning metal core just like Earth. Or two spinning metal cores, spinning around one another.

Hydrogen has a nucleus. The proton is the nucleus. What it doesn't have is a neutron. And yes, the sun is a giant nuclear reactor, not a ball of fire. Never heard of this static electricity causing gravity, but all mass, no matter how small has gravity and is drawn to other mass. As the mass collects, it has greater gravity, eventually forming a sphere of whatever components it's collected.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Hydrogen has a nucleus. The proton is the nucleus. What it doesn't have is a neutron. And yes, the sun is a giant nuclear reactor, not a ball of fire. Never heard of this static electricity causing gravity, but all mass, no matter how small has gravity and is drawn to other mass. As the mass collects, it has greater gravity, eventually forming a sphere of whatever components it's collected.

Damn it thought I put neutron.

 

[dsturgeon]

Journey has some catchy melodies, but I hate most high pitched male singers. Having the ability to go high is good, but that being the default mode is grating. Steve Perry, Sting, Geddy Lee, etc. Don't like them, not lying

Same here. Both with rock singers and rappers.

The Portugal the man singer is about the only exception. Rush bums me out because I want to like them,and then I hear the singing, and I never understood how people could enjoy listening to Eminem for the same reason

 

[DFWJC]

A quick Google search:

LHC became operational again on 22 April 2022 with a new maximum beam energy of 6.8 TeV, which was first achieved on 25 April. This round is expected to continue until 2026.

 

[Runwildboys]

Same here. Both with rock singers and rappers.

The Portugal the man singer is about the only exception. Rush bums me out because I want to like them,and then I hear the singing, and I never understood how people could enjoy listening to Eminem for the same reason

Eminem doesn't have a high voice. Did you change the topic and I missed it?

 

[dsturgeon]

Eminem doesn't have a high voice. Did you change the topic and I missed it?

I think you miss on a lot of things, although I am not sure about the topic change. Maybe he has an annoying voice, I would have to listen to it again.

 

[SlammedZero]

On and off topic, did anyone catch the blood moon lunar eclipse last night? Happened at an inconvenient time, Sunday night into early Monday morning…. But right around 12:30 AM in most parts of the country, it was quite the view. Felt like Mars was right next to us or something you would see you in a science-fiction planet skyline.

Unfortunately it was cloudy and rainy that night in my neck of the woods. Go figure! lol

 

[Runwildboys]

Unfortunately it was cloudy and rainy that night in my neck of the woods. Go figure! lol

Same here, plus I had to be in bed early.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

You are misunderstanding the nature of hydrogen and what "flashpoint" means.

The flashpoint is the temperature at which hydrogen will burn in the presence of oxygen. What that means is that it will react with oxygen to form water (H2O). The hydrogen atoms still exist: they don't go "out of existence." They are simply bonded to oxygen. You can reverse the reaction to get back hydrogen and oxygen: it's called hydrolysis. These are chemical reactions, not nuclear reactions.

When there's no oxygen around, the flashpoint is a completely meaningless concept, because hydrogen won't burn. You can get hydrogen incredibly hot if there's nothing for it to burn with. So that's the answer to your simple question.

In the hydrogen bomb, the hydrogen gets heated extraordinarily quickly to those temperatures, and in those conditions and high pressures, it fuses to form helium. That's a nuclear reaction, not a chemical reaction.

We know what's in the sun not because of what "passes through it," but by what it absorbs and emits. Look up spectroscopy and you can learn about that.

I work in the chemical industry so we often use the word flashpoint in place of autoignition temperature. Didn't mean to confuse you .

But an object can burn with no oxygen present. The U.S. has created a lazer that reaches 50 million degrees. If you put a tree on the moon then hit that tree with that lazer, you will vaporize that tree. Since hydrogen has an established autoignition temperature the question still remains how can it survive the temperatures in the sun without being vaporized?

Hydrolysis... Never heard this word before, so I looked it up. We just called hydrolysis water soluble. From what I know you can't separate hydrogen from oxygen by adding water.

We know what's in the sun not because of what "passes through it", but by what it absorbs and emits.

I already knew about spectroscopy. I might be misinterpreting what you meant, but I'm pretty sure we aren't getting any data from what the sun is absorbing. As light passes through the layers of the sun we can tell what gases the light has passed through. But that doesn't mean those gases extend two million miles toward the core. But to each its own.



Both the earth and the sun have heated cores.

Both the sun's and the earth's core produce electromagnetic wavelengths.

Both the earth's and the sun's core have polarities within them.

Both the earth's and the sun's polarities change, within themselves, every once in awhile.

Both the earth's and the sun's cores release EMP blast every now and then.


Just saying....to each his own.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I work in the chemical industry so we often use the word flashpoint in place of autoignition temperature. Didn't mean to confuse you .

That's exactly what autoignition is. It's when hydrogen will spontaneously combust with oxygen.

But an object can burn with no oxygen present. The U.S. has created a lazer that reaches 50 million degrees. If you put a tree on the moon then hit that tree with that lazer, you will vaporize that tree.

Sure, but the tree didn't burn or ignite. It was simply atomized.

Since hydrogen has an established autoignition temperature the question still remains how can it survive the temperatures in the sun without being vaporized?

I don't understand. Hydrogen is already a vapor (gas). What do you mean by "vaporized" here? Do you think that when hydrogen reaches its autoignition temperature, it ceases to exist? It does not. If there's something around for it to react with and the temperature is high enough to overcome the activation energy of that reaction, then it will react. If there's nothing for it to react with, it will simply become hotter hydrogen. If it gets hot enough and the pressures are high enough, it will cease to become hydrogen gas (H2) and it will become a plasma of hydrogen atoms. But the hydrogen atoms don't go away.

Hydrolysis

My mistake. I meant "electrolysis," the usual means by which water splitting is done. There are other ways.

I already knew about spectroscopy. I might be misinterpreting what you meant, but I'm pretty sure we aren't getting any data from what the sun is absorbing. As light passes through the layers of the sun we can tell what gases the light has passed through.

Light doesn't just "pass through." It is constantly absorbed and re-emitted by what's in the sun, leading to characteristic spectroscopy lines.

 

[Rack]

So this is where all the pocket protectors went.

Nerds.

 

[jsb357]

None of those theories have been proven and you can dismiss them if you feel like.