Sagittarius A, the first image of the center of your galaxy

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

You can dismiss anything you like; the universe doesn't care, and will keep going its merry way regardless.

Also: I don't think you understand what the word "theory" means, in a scientific context.

I know what the word myth means in every context. If I can't see it, touch it, smell it, taste it, or hear it...and there are no electronic devices that can detect it then it exists in mythology only. That includes dark matter, dark energy and the fabric of space. When they quit making things up out of thin air I'll believe them a lot more than I do now. I don't want scientist using a mythical realm to explain things to me. Guess that make me a horrible person.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Wow, you really have no idea about what you're discussing. The "fabric" of space is just a metaphor.

Except that your made-up idea doesn't gibe with the data, so it's a hypothesis that can quickly be rejected.

In what way do you mean that relativity is wrong? It's a model that describes the observed behavior of the universe. It may be incomplete, but I have no idea what you mean when you say it's "completely wrong." And again, describing space as a fabric is a metaphor, not a physical description.

But your discussion here makes it clear that you don't understand the concepts well enough to even begin debating them. So until you do, not much point in further discussion.

Bro, I liken debating Oz like the event horizon of a black hole; once you’ve gone to a certain point there’s no returning.

 

[SlammedZero]

Just watched that one yesterday. I like her energy, so I'll be checking out more of her videos.

Thanks for sharing that video. I agree with Runwildboys. She has a very good, likeable, and connectible energy. I will subscribe to her as well.

When she was talking about how much bigger M87 is compared to Sagittarius A, it just blows your mind. The vastness of space is something I don't even think we can fully comprehend as humans. It's incredible.

 

[Runwildboys]

Thanks for sharing that video. I agree with Runwildboys. She has a very good, likeable, and connectible energy. I will subscribe to her as well.

When she was talking about how much bigger M87 is compared to Sagittarius A, it just blows your mind. The vastness of space is something I don't even think we can fully comprehend as humans. It's incredible.

The biggest star we know of has a radius 1700 times the radius of our sun...and that's just in our Milky Way galaxy! Imagine how big some of them might be.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Every object that holds a positive and negative charge is magnetised. The magnetism in most objects isn't strong enough to stick to metal, but it still exists.

The sun's core and Earth's core produce electromagnetic wavelengths. These wavelengths create an negative charge within every atom as they pass through them. Every atom has three subatomic particles. A nucleus, a proton and an electron. The proton is the positive charge every atom carries with it naturally. The electron is created by electromagnetic wavelengths passing through the atom. So every atom now holds a positive and negative charge, meaning it's now magnetised. The magnetism in every atom of every object on Earth, is attracted to Earth's magnetic core. Hence we have gravity pulling down on everything on this planet.

That means all of the atoms that make up the moon are magnetised also. But the negative charge in all atoms needs to be recharged. Let's say the moon is absorbing 12% of the sun's electromagnetic wavelength, while absorbing 80% of Earth's electromagnetic wavelength. Then the moon is using the Earth as a battery to recharge it's electrons. The magnetism of the moon, permeates from the moon as electromagnetic static. So the moons electromagnetic static is mostly being recharged by planet Earth. Hence the moon orbiting the Earth.

Now if Mars is absorbing 20% of the sun's electromagnetic wavelength, while absorbing less than 1% of the Earth's wavelength. Then Mars would orbit the sun, because it's getting most of its charged from the sun.

Well, that is one hypothesis. Of course, it's testable. Do the math, see if it works out. Hint: it doesn't. Because absolutely nothing works the way you describe.

 

[Runwildboys]

Every object that holds a positive and negative charge is magnetised. The magnetism in most objects isn't strong enough to stick to metal, but it still exists.

The sun's core and Earth's core produce electromagnetic wavelengths. These wavelengths create an negative charge within every atom as they pass through them. Every atom has three subatomic particles. A nucleus, a proton and an electron. The proton is the positive charge every atom carries with it naturally. The electron is created by electromagnetic wavelengths passing through the atom. So every atom now holds a positive and negative charge, meaning it's now magnetised. The magnetism in every atom of every object on Earth, is attracted to Earth's magnetic core. Hence we have gravity pulling down on everything on this planet.

That means all of the atoms that make up the moon are magnetised also. But the negative charge in all atoms needs to be recharged. Let's say the moon is absorbing 12% of the sun's electromagnetic wavelength, while absorbing 80% of Earth's electromagnetic wavelength. Then the moon is using the Earth as a battery to recharge it's electrons. The magnetism of the moon, permeates from the moon as electromagnetic static. So the moons electromagnetic static is mostly being recharged by planet Earth. Hence the moon orbiting the Earth.

Now if Mars is absorbing 20% of the sun's electromagnetic wavelength, while absorbing less than 1% of the Earth's wavelength. Then Mars would orbit the sun, because it's getting most of its charged from the sun.

That's my personal explanation of gravity without using the mythology entity known as the fabric of space. Everything in my explanation exist. Which makes my explanation more plausible then NASA's.


NASA sucks. Einstein's theory sucks. Ain't no damn fabric of space. That bowling ball on a trampoline B.S. is garbage. Made up mythology garbage.

The proton is part of the nucleus. For example, a hydrogen atom is made up of one proton and one electron (and is the only atom without a neutron, which is the other part of the nucleus). Hydrogen, btw, is the most abundant atom in the universe.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Well, that is one hypothesis. Of course, it's testable. Do the math, see if it works out. Hint: it doesn't. Because absolutely nothing works the way you describe.

Every individual persons has to find their own path in life. If they choose to follow one prophet in place of another, that's their choice. If you choose to believe we evolved from a single cell organism that's you. Let everyone believe in what ever they believe in. As they say live and let live. But finding and providing proof is the scientific nature of science. So when they build an electronic device that can detect the fabric of space, dark matter, or dark energy then I'll believe them.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

The proton is part of the nucleus. For example, a hydrogen atom is made up of one proton and one electron (and is the only atom without a neutron, which is the other part of the nucleus). Hydrogen, btw, is the most abundant atom in the universe.

They haven't travel the universe, so there is no way they could know if hydrogen is the most abundant atom.

I'd love to ask them....If helium is converted into hydrogen then where does the helium come from?

 

[Runwildboys]

They haven't travel the universe, so there is no way they could know if hydrogen is the most abundant atom.

I'd love to ask them....If helium is converted into hydrogen then where does the helium come from?

Helium comes from hydrogen, not the other way around. The universe is pretty homogeneous, which is part of the evidence of rapid expansion during the big bang, then again during the great inflation, and in the visible universe spectroscopy shows hydrogen as the most abundant atom.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

They haven't travel the universe, so there is no way they could know if hydrogen is the most abundant atom.

I'd love to ask them....If helium is converted into hydrogen then where does the helium come from?

I mixed helium and hydrogen up. Hydrogen combines to create helium. But the question is still valid. Hydrogen has a flashpoint around 600 degrees Celsius. The core of the sun is 15 million degrees Celsius. So how is the core producing hydrogen when hydrogen can't survive at those temperatures? Where is the hydrogen the sun allegedly uses as fuel coming from? That's the question I'd love to ask NASA.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Helium comes from hydrogen, not the other way around. The universe is pretty homogeneous, which is part of the evidence of rapid expansion during the big bang, then again during the great inflation, and in the visible universe spectroscopy shows hydrogen as the most abundant atom.

Yeah I mixed that up, then switched my train of thought to the sun and it's hydrogen.

Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the known universe. Hydrogen is the most abundant element known to man. Some have stop saying hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. Because man doesn't know how big the universe is and we don't know what else is out there. We haven't studied the whole universe yet.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

The proton is part of the nucleus. For example, a hydrogen atom is made up of one proton and one electron (and is the only atom without a neutron, which is the other part of the nucleus). Hydrogen, btw, is the most abundant atom in the universe.

Yeah, three subatomic particles.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I mixed helium and hydrogen up. Hydrogen combines to create helium. But the question is still valid. Hydrogen has a flashpoint around 600 degrees Celsius. The core of the sun is 15 million degrees Celsius. So how is the core producing hydrogen when hydrogen can't survive at those temperatures? Where is the hydrogen the sun allegedly uses as fuel coming from? That's the question I'd love to ask NASA.

Producing hydrogen? Hydrogen can't survive? What exactly do you think the flashpoint means? And what do you think it has to do with the processes happening inside the sun?

Wow. Read a book already.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Producing hydrogen? Hydrogen can't survive? What exactly do you think the flashpoint means? And what do you think it has to do with the processes happening inside the sun?

Wow. Read a book already.

Quit being nasty. Why don't you volunteer to be the first human to travel to the core of the sun. No probe has made it, maybe you can.

But that's unnecessary right, because even though no probe has made and no humans have made it, they know everything from just looking at it. Right?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

On the subject of supernovas, one of the things I find most fascinating is that in a universe where you are typically dealing with timescales that are effectively eons (millions and billions of years), the collapse of the star takes "less than a quarter of a second [...], a few hours for the shockwave to reach the surface of the star, a few months to brighten, and then just few years to fade away."

 

[JD_KaPow]

Quit being nasty. Why don't you volunteer to be the first human to travel to the core of the sun. No probe has made it, maybe you can.

But that's unnecessary right, because even though no probe has made and no humans have made it, they know everything from just looking at it. Right?

Yes, we know quite a lot about the sun and other stars by looking at them, and yes, it's unnecessary to travel there to do so. Specifically, we know their compositions by looking at their absorption lines, using spectroscopy. Scientists discovered how to do that in the early 1800s. You can google it and read all about it.

Also, since there's essentially no oxygen in the sun, the flashpoint of hydrogen is completely irrelevant to the processes happening there. The flashpoint simply refers to the point at which hydrogen will react with oxygen to make water. The hydrogen atoms survive that just fine, they just end up bonded with oxygen.

 

[VaqueroTD]

On and off topic, did anyone catch the blood moon lunar eclipse last night? Happened at an inconvenient time, Sunday night into early Monday morning…. But right around 12:30 AM in most parts of the country, it was quite the view. Felt like Mars was right next to us or something you would see you in a science-fiction planet skyline.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Yes, we know quite a lot about the sun and other stars by looking at them, and yes, it's unnecessary to travel there to do so. Specifically, we know their compositions by looking at their absorption lines, using spectroscopy. Scientists discovered how to do that in the early 1800s. You can google it and read all about it.

Also, since there's essentially no oxygen in the sun, the flashpoint of hydrogen is completely irrelevant to the processes happening there. The flashpoint simply refers to the point at which hydrogen will react with oxygen to make water. The hydrogen atoms survive that just fine, they just end up bonded with oxygen.

The flashpoint is the temperature at which atom will cease to exist. Hydrogen begins to burn itself out of existence at 600 degrees. The core of the sun, according to astronomers is 15 million degrees. So my simple question to them would be how does hydrogen exist at those core temperatures?

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Yes, we know quite a lot about the sun and other stars by looking at them, and yes, it's unnecessary to travel there to do so. Specifically, we know their compositions by looking at their absorption lines, using spectroscopy. Scientists discovered how to do that in the early 1800s. You can google it and read all about it.

Also, since there's essentially no oxygen in the sun, the flashpoint of hydrogen is completely irrelevant to the processes happening there. The flashpoint simply refers to the point at which hydrogen will react with oxygen to make water. The hydrogen atoms survive that just fine, they just end up bonded with oxygen.

Ok let me try to explain my question differently. We know certain gases exist on the outter edges of the sun. Because we can detect the effect these gases have on light as light passes through them.

If you google what's the sun's core made up of, the answer is hydrogen. If you google what's the core temperature of the sun, they say 15 million degrees. There are gases that can survive in those temperatures, but hydrogen is not suppose to be one of them. Hence the hydrogen bomb. So what I want to know is how they came to the conclusion that hydrogen is present in the sun's core?

 

[JD_KaPow]

The flashpoint is the temperature at which atom will cease to exist. Hydrogen begins to burn itself out of existence at 600 degrees. The core of the sun, according to astronomers is 15 million degrees. So my simple question to them would be how does hydrogen exist at those core temperatures?

Ok let me try to explain my question differently. We know certain gases exist on the outter edges of the sun. Because we can detect the effect these gases have on light as light passes through them.

If you google what's the sun's core made up of, the answer is hydrogen. If you google what's the core temperature of the sun, they say 15 million degrees. There are gases that can survive in those temperatures, but hydrogen is not suppose to be one of them. Hence the hydrogen bomb. So what I want to know is how they came to the conclusion that hydrogen is present in the sun's core?

You are misunderstanding the nature of hydrogen and what "flashpoint" means.

The flashpoint is the temperature at which hydrogen will burn in the presence of oxygen. What that means is that it will react with oxygen to form water (H2O). The hydrogen atoms still exist: they don't go "out of existence." They are simply bonded to oxygen. You can reverse the reaction to get back hydrogen and oxygen: it's called hydrolysis. These are chemical reactions, not nuclear reactions.

When there's no oxygen around, the flashpoint is a completely meaningless concept, because hydrogen won't burn. You can get hydrogen incredibly hot if there's nothing for it to burn with. So that's the answer to your simple question.

In the hydrogen bomb, the hydrogen gets heated extraordinarily quickly to those temperatures, and in those conditions and high pressures, it fuses to form helium. That's a nuclear reaction, not a chemical reaction.

We know what's in the sun not because of what "passes through it," but by what it absorbs and emits. Look up spectroscopy and you can learn about that.