Same old media, same old laziness

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So I'm listening to ESPN radio while on a run Saturday, suffering through the empty musings of Jean-Jacques Taylor, Tim McMahon, and Landry Locker.

For those not from DFW, JJT and McMahon are boorish, insecure, small-minded local writers who spend most of their time trying to convince themselves otherwise. Both are irrelevant as reporters because they seldom break a newsworthy thing. They're D-level commentators at best. Locker is so irrelevant, I won't bore you with a background description. Not even sure I spelled his spare name right.

In essence, they are no more worthy than any of us here to be on the air. We can all randomly comment on this message board to their low-bar standard.


So anyway, I'm listening, and JJT and McMahon make this ridiculous statement, basically to the effect that "this is the same team again and again, year after year. Why would they be any better than 8-8."


Good gawd. These guys are at Valley Ranch all the time. They should frankly know better. Just lazy. Too caught up in their fantasy-celebrity mindsets.


It's fact-ignoring statements like that that really bug me. Thousands of people will run with that bad information and it'll spread like wildfire. Then we have to hear it from our less-informed family and friends and decide if we have the lifeforce left to bother correcting it.


"Yeah, you're right, Aunt Mildred. Can you make me another helping of thos awesome Super Bowl Quesadillas?"


FACT: Of the 90 players in camp, only 17 of them were Cowboys two years ago.


Just 17 out of 90. That's hardly the "same old team, year after year." I don't see Newman, Brooking, James, Columbo, Barber, Roy, Marty B, Sensabaugh, Elam, Ball, Kosier, Davis, Olshansky......"


Stupid comment. And we haven't gotten into the coaching staff or scheme changes.


Garrett has purged this roster up and down, if nothing else. Love him or hate him, he hasn't stood pat on what he inherited. The roster is vastly younger. It's devoid of malcontents, best we can tell. It's faster, more athletic, and evolving.


Better, worse, still .500....we won't know until the end of the season. But it's hardly the "same old team."


I don't expect reporters to be perfect. I just expect them to try. If anything, they're the "same old lazy reporters, year after year."
 

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Personally I don't care if we have purged every single player on this team from two years ago and replaced them with all new guys.

If they can not get beyond an .500 average of wins than we are basically the same old team. I have NO problem with that comment.

Just like last year JJT said we were an average .500 team and people went ballistic and said no we gotta wait and see how the season plays out and so on...in the end it was a .500 average team.

Until this team breaks away from that average (around a ten year .500 average) it is the same old team (different players, different coaches but same results).

This does not make JJT or anyone of his ilk a genius or mastermind. It also does not mean they are not lazy in reporting. But it does not take a genius to figure out that until this team can turn it around it will be the same old team Wins/Loss wise.

Just 2 cents. This is not a diss on your post or your opinion on the matter, just a different view on it.
 

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Until the Cowboys stop being an 8-8 football team, the media (in Dallas and nationwide) will continue to ride the Cowboys as "same old" until they can prove otherwise.
 

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Seems like someone with a job talking about football would at least have enough insight to allow the possibility of youth making the team better and I suspect the same people that can't bring themselves to allow optimism because of the changes were the same ones pointing out how old the team was and didn't do anything to change after the 09 season.
 

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No matter how much you hate JJT, Cowlishaw or Goose the fact is they are right on most of the time. It's time for Cowboys fans to start being realistic about this team. If 17 years of mediocrity hasn't changed the tune, nothing will. The only time we've had a great team in that period is because Parcells built it. Jerry has never put together a decent roster without the help of JJ or BP. FACT
 

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No matter how much you hate JJT, Cowlishaw or Goose the fact is they are right on most of the time. It's time for Cowboys fans to start being realistic about this team. If 17 years of mediocrity hasn't changed the tune, nothing will. The only time we've had a great team in that period is because Parcells built it. Jerry has never put together a decent roster without the help of JJ or BP. FACT

Parcells went 10-6 with Jerry and Campos monster and 9-7 with his. Simple fact that gets overlooked.
 

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Just an example of why I don't listen to anyone on ESPN or any of the other national media outlets. You're right though. Some people will take that as gospel and run with it. I wouldn't be surprised to see a thread started soon from someone with the subject "Same ole Cowboys".
 

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Until the Cowboys stop being an 8-8 football team, the media (in Dallas and nationwide) will continue to ride the Cowboys as "same old" until they can prove otherwise.

The problem is....how does this provide any value to the reader/viewer/listener of these media types?

While going 8-8/9-7 is the 'same old Cowboys', hearing the same reasons why 'the team hasn't changed any' or the 'it's always Jerry's fault' is even more redundant.

I would be more interested as a viewer/reader/listener to have actual facts thrown into discussion as the reader reported. Why does the team continue to look like a .500 team despite having such a high turnover of their roster?

I can accept the fact that the team could go .500 (or worse) again. But I cannot accept mediots, who are supposed to have their facts straight, that are clearly inaccurate. I have no problems with their doubts of the Cowboys 2013 season, but I need for them to expand upon that based on facts. Not based on the same ole clichés that are not factual.

What happens in the process is the we end up missing out on key stories that have a large impact on the team's success because the mediots are too busy focusing on stuff that in frivolous. They always nag athletes for being uncooperative and use the 'we are an outlet to the fans' excuse. But when the fans need them to provide accurate and informative information, they end up falling woefully short.

I'm amazed by how many readers/viewers/listeners set the bar incredibly low for these goofs.





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No matter how much you hate JJT, Cowlishaw or Goose the fact is they are right on most of the time. It's time for Cowboys fans to start being realistic about this team. If 17 years of mediocrity hasn't changed the tune, nothing will. The only time we've had a great team in that period is because Parcells built it. Jerry has never put together a decent roster without the help of JJ or BP. FACT

They are?

How about Goose screaming at the top of his lungs that the Cowboys could not participate in the draft unless they got below the cap with Romo?




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Personally I don't care if we have purged every single player on this team from two years ago and replaced them with all new guys.

If they can not get beyond an .500 average of wins than we are basically the same old team. I have NO problem with that comment.

Just like last year JJT said we were an average .500 team and people went ballistic and said no we gotta wait and see how the season plays out and so on...in the end it was a .500 average team.

Until this team breaks away from that average (around a ten year .500 average) it is the same old team (different players, different coaches but same results).

This does not make JJT or anyone of his ilk a genius or mastermind. It also does not mean they are not lazy in reporting. But it does not take a genius to figure out that until this team can turn it around it will be the same old team Wins/Loss wise.

Just 2 cents. This is not a diss on your post or your opinion on the matter, just a different view on it.

2 cents.......priceless!
 

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Why are you listening to Tim McMahon?

I would rather jump off the Bay Bridge !
 

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Personally I don't care if we have purged every single player on this team from two years ago and replaced them with all new guys.

If they can not get beyond an .500 average of wins than we are basically the same old team. I have NO problem with that comment.

Just like last year JJT said we were an average .500 team and people went ballistic and said no we gotta wait and see how the season plays out and so on...in the end it was a .500 average team.

Until this team breaks away from that average (around a ten year .500 average) it is the same old team (different players, different coaches but same results).

This does not make JJT or anyone of his ilk a genius or mastermind. It also does not mean they are not lazy in reporting. But it does not take a genius to figure out that until this team can turn it around it will be the same old team Wins/Loss wise.

Just 2 cents. This is not a diss on your post or your opinion on the matter, just a different view on it.


Agree with all of this.

It's a new year and we have a lot of new players but until the Cowboys actually do something to change expectations than it will be more of the same.


We need to get to the playoffs and start winning in the playoffs.
 

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Personally I don't care if we have purged every single player on this team from two years ago and replaced them with all new guys.

If they can not get beyond an .500 average of wins than we are basically the same old team. I have NO problem with that comment.

Just like last year JJT said we were an average .500 team and people went ballistic and said no we gotta wait and see how the season plays out and so on...in the end it was a .500 average team.

Until this team breaks away from that average (around a ten year .500 average) it is the same old team (different players, different coaches but same results).

This does not make JJT or anyone of his ilk a genius or mastermind. It also does not mean they are not lazy in reporting. But it does not take a genius to figure out that until this team can turn it around it will be the same old team Wins/Loss wise.

Just 2 cents. This is not a diss on your post or your opinion on the matter, just a different view on it.

I respectfully disagree with your post. Using the logic set forth in your post we could have replaced our entire roster with pro bowlers, or members of the school of the blind and we would be the "same team" and should be saddled with the "we are the same .500 team" until we "prove differently". I respect fact that reasonable minds may differ on the issue, but quite honestly, I'm not sure you could say that we would be a .500 team this year even with no additions to the roster this year because we were decimated by injuries last year at a much greater degree than one might expect. Moreover none of that takes into account the status of the other teams in the league either.

One can hazard a guess as to how good a team will be but realistically, it is largely an exercise in futility. If the Packers lost its starting QB would the win/loss rate of that team be likely to change? Probably. What if Tom Brady got shot by Hernandez? What if the Hoodie got whacked by the mob? LOL Do you see what I mean?

I have no problem with JJT (who I have absolutely no respect for as a journalist) saying he thinks we are a .500 team based on what he sees on the field at this point but to say it based on nothing other than we were a .500 team over the past several years really isn't a very sound basis for making that statement. I think the original poster was "spot on" of his critique of JJT as a lazy journalist. He really doesn't seem to bring that much to the table in terms of knowledge or preparation. At this point in his career he seems to just make statements without doing any real investigative inquiry into the matters which he gives an opinion. I would think that the bar should be set higher for someone who makes his living commenting about the subject matter at issue ... which in this case is mostly the Dallas Cowboys.
 
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