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There have been some *rumors* floating around San Deigo that Wade Phillips is intent on bring some of his Charger defensive players with him to Dallas. I would assume that means either Randal Godfrey-MLB, Shaun Phillips-OLB, Carlos Polk-OLB, or possibly Steve Foley-OLB if he gets released. Assuming these rumors are true (they probably are because how often do you see a new coach not bring in players from his last stop?) which of this group would you most like to see wearing a Cowboy uniform next season?????

I'd love the starting defense look like this...

DE - Spears
NT - Ferguson
DE - Canty
OLB -Ware
MLB -Ayodelle
MLB -Carpenter
OLB -Shaun Phillips -FA Signing
SS - Williams
FS - Reggie Nelson - 1st Round Pick
CB - Newman
CB - Henry

If Dallas found a backup DT in the draft this defense would be as solid and deep as any in the NFL and with Wade's new scheme this group could be very dangerous to play against.
 

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gosuns;1380250 said:
There have been some *rumors* floating around San Deigo that Wade Phillips is intent on bring some of his Charger defensive players with him to Dallas. I would assume that means either Randal Godfrey-MLB, Shaun Phillips-OLB, Carlos Polk-OLB, or possibly Steve Foley-OLB if he gets released. Assuming these rumors are true (they probably are because how often do you see a new coach not bring in players from his last stop?) which of this group would you most like to see wearing a Cowboy uniform next season?????

I'd love the starting defense look like this...

DE - Spears
NT - Ferguson
DE - Canty
OLB -Ware
MLB -Ayodelle
MLB -Carpenter
OLB -Shaun Phillips -FA Signing
SS - Williams
FS - Reggie Nelson - 1st Round Pick
CB - Newman
CB - Henry

If Dallas found a backup DT in the draft this defense would be as solid and deep as any in the NFL and with Wade's new scheme this group could be very dangerous to play against.

While I like the idea of getting Phillips, I don't think it can be justified financially.

Bradie James just got paid big-time and your lineeup has him on the bench.

Greg Ellis is also getting paid well and he'd be on the pine too.

Not to mention what it would cost to get Phillips - especially after a 11 sack season.

I think the Chargers will make every effort to re-sign Phillips anyway to keep their defensive core together.

I've heard rumor that Wade Phillips thinks Carlos Pols is ready to break out. He wouldn't cost nearly as much.
 

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yeah thats it. a guy with off the field stuff going on, another guy who was set to retire last year and was talked into coming back.

I think edwards could end up here but the rest dont really make much sense.

I am not even sure edwards does because of carpenter and burnett.
 

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I just really believe Wade will go after one of his guys... Polk may be that guy and if Wade really believes in him then great.

As for James and Ellis riding the pine. James will have to step up or he will be riding the pine regardless of his paycheck. Ellis should NOT be counted on for next season. 90% of players returning from an achiles injury SUCK their first year back. Ellis should be a complete afterthought for next season and if things work out and he comes back healthy and productive then it's an added bonus.

I think Dallas HAS to get another OLB who can rush the passer. Maybe that's Polk or maybe Burnett. But with Ellis injured and Carpenter being more suited for MLB in my opinion I really believe Dallas will be sorry if they don't take that position VERY seriously.
 

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Edwards makes tons of sense if he's released... The guy had like 140 tackles last year... He's a top flight player and a top flight person.
 

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Bradie James just got paid big-time and your lineeup has him on the bench.

Greg Ellis is also getting paid well and he'd be on the pine too.


Just cause James got paid, doesn't mean he'll be starting. He slumped badly last year. If it continues, then it doesn't matter about his pay ... he won't be a Cowboy for long and we'll be eating his pay for lunch.
 
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gosuns;1380250 said:
There have been some *rumors* floating around San Deigo that Wade Phillips is intent on bring some of his Charger defensive players with him to Dallas. I would assume that means either Randal Godfrey-MLB, Shaun Phillips-OLB, Carlos Polk-OLB, or possibly Steve Foley-OLB if he gets released. Assuming these rumors are true (they probably are because how often do you see a new coach not bring in players from his last stop?) which of this group would you most like to see wearing a Cowboy uniform next season?????

I'd love the starting defense look like this...

DE - Spears
NT - Ferguson
DE - Canty
OLB -Ware
MLB -Ayodelle
MLB -Carpenter
OLB -Shaun Phillips -FA Signing
SS - Williams
FS - Reggie Nelson - 1st Round Pick
CB - Newman
CB - Henry

If Dallas found a backup DT in the draft this defense would be as solid and deep as any in the NFL and with Wade's new scheme this group could be very dangerous to play against.

Too Much depth at LB isnt a bad thing, especially in the 3-4. But... Bradie James should be at ILB on first and second downs. He might be a liability in coverage, but he can fill the hole and can shed blocks. Carpenter should be moved to ILB on Nickel (if in a 3-4 front) and Greg to SOLB for a rush.

No way Bradie should be there on 3rd downs. And while we are talking about slow, stiff hipped , liabilities in coverage..... Roy needs to be out on third down as well, or play a 3-4 look with roy as a roving LB on either strong or weak side to bring pressure.
 

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Phillips is an RFA would would cost picks AND huge $$$. Not gonna happen.

Foley has said several times that he won't be able to return to football becauseo of his injuries.

Edwards and Polks are however guys to look for. Edwards especially -- he's exactly the type of productive veteran leader than could allow this D to gel.
 

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Eddie;1380288 said:
Just cause James got paid, doesn't mean he'll be starting. He slumped badly last year. If it continues, then it doesn't matter about his pay ... he won't be a Cowboy for long and we'll be eating his pay for lunch.

Tell that to the guy who signs the paychecks. James won't be riding the pine so that yet another big-money linebacker can be signed.

Jones and the team have made a financial commitment to Bradie James and I think he'll get every opportunity to turn things around.

He's shown the ability to be a solid starter and I'm not ready to write him off yet, not anymore than I would write off Roy Williams after his lousy year.
 

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Eddie;1380288 said:
Just cause James got paid, doesn't mean he'll be starting. He slumped badly last year. If it continues, then it doesn't matter about his pay ... he won't be a Cowboy for long and we'll be eating his pay for lunch.

James in Phillips' 3-4 may be a much better player than in Tuna's 3-4.
Don't base his play on last years performance in a poorly called defense. He played very well the year before, that got him that big contract. So he has shown he can play very well.
 

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Here is some information about Polk:

Chargers' Polk gets his shot

By: JAY PARIS - Staff Writer SAN DIEGO ---- Linebacker Carlos Polk will be seen and heard Sunday.

Few Chargers move their chops like Polk, the chatty six-year pro from Nebraska. He' s the Big Mouth from the Big Red, always quick with a complimentary word or cajoling a teammate to greater heights.
But it's the confident Polk who will be asked to lift his game, filling in for suspended Pro Bowler Shawne Merriman against the Browns.

"If you talk to him,'' coach Marty Schottenheimer said of Polk, "he's already got one foot in the Hall of Fame.''

Fame has been fleeting for Polk. The spotlight and headlines seldom find Polk, whose best work comes on the anonymous special teams. Plus, injuries torpedoed his past two seasons and he played in just one game in two years.

"It's been a journey, but you got to stay the course,'' Polk said. "And God has a plan for all of us. If you dwell on the past, you never get ahead.''

Polk has spent his NFL career behind someone. A fourth-round pick in 2001, he's never been first string, instead always playing second fiddle.

That changes Sunday, as the Chargers go for their third straight victory.

"He's been waiting for this moment for his whole life,'' veteran linebacker Randall Godfrey said. "I hate that it is this late in his career, but it's good for him.''

Good, too, for the Chargers? That will be determined as a naughty Merriman sits out the first of his four games. Polk will fill the void on running downs in a rotation that includes Stephen Cooper and Akbar Gbaja-Biamila.

"I'm no 'Lights Out', but I have my own strengths, too,'' Polk said. "I know they will probably focus on me and design their offense to come toward me, and I'm looking forward to it.''

Looking back, Polk was a Nebraska star and an All-America selection. But when punching the NFL clock, his work station became special teams. His job was blowing up returns, breaking wedges and supplying blocks to spring others.

He was the Chargers' special teams player of the year in 2002; in '03, he shared the honor. Then a two-year string of injuries relegated him to cheerleader status.

But the Chargers, like the energetic Polk, kept the faith. Despite but 10 career tackles on defense in five years, they gave him a one-year deal in January. And now November brings his maiden start. He has nine tackles in the base defense, five more on special teams.

"I don't worry about him hustling; he is going to be around the ball,'' Godfrey said. "He'll have some big hits because he is physical ---- it is going to be fun. I know how motivated he is and how he is ready to play. We just have to let him fit in and do his role.''

Sounds good to the 6-foot-2, 262-pound Polk.

"I just want to have my presence known,'' he said. "I know 'Lights Out' isn't going to be there and the other team is probably happy of that. But I want to establish my presence early in the game. Just do my job, not try to do too much, and I'm sure things will work as they are supposed to.''

They did last Sunday when Polk's motor mouth ignited Marlon McCree's engine after pouncing on a fumble. McCree returned it 79 yards for a game-changing touchdown.

"I dove on it because it was in traffic and Carlos Polk is yelling, 'Get up, get up,'' McCree said. "I got up.''



http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/11/04/sports/professional/chargers/20_32_1711_3_06.txt
 

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While that sounds good, I unfortunately don't see Reggie Nelson falling to us. I think he goes in the top 10-15. I'd like to have him, but I don't see it happening.

Moreover, it would seem to me that Edwards would be the most likely LB to follow Wade.
 

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cobra;1380479 said:
While that sounds good, I unfortunately don't see Reggie Nelson falling to us. I think he goes in the top 10-15. I'd like to have him, but I don't see it happening.

Moreover, it would seem to me that Edwards would be the most likely LB to follow Wade.
As of right now Laron Landry is going 10-15 which is dropping Reggie Nelson to 22 to the Cowboys. A lot can change by April with the combine still to come. I kind of wonder if the Cowboys would even be interested in a safety that high. Pat Watkins looks to have all the tools and should be more consistent in his second season.
 

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speedkilz88;1380506 said:
As of right now Laron Landry is going 10-15 which is dropping Reggie Nelson to 22 to the Cowboys. A lot can change by April with the combine still to come. I kind of wonder if the Cowboys would even be interested in a safety that high. Pat Watkins looks to have all the tools and should be more consistent in his second season.

just about every mock I've seen has them both of the board by 14
 

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gosuns;1380250 said:
There have been some *rumors* floating around San Deigo that Wade Phillips is intent on bring some of his Charger defensive players with him to Dallas. I would assume that means either Randal Godfrey-MLB, Shaun Phillips-OLB, Carlos Polk-OLB, or possibly Steve Foley-OLB if he gets released. Assuming these rumors are true (they probably are because how often do you see a new coach not bring in players from his last stop?) which of this group would you most like to see wearing a Cowboy uniform next season?????

I'd love the starting defense look like this...

DE - Spears
NT - Ferguson
DE - Canty
OLB -Ware
MLB -Ayodelle
MLB -Carpenter
OLB -Shaun Phillips -FA Signing
SS - Williams
FS - Reggie Nelson - 1st Round Pick
CB - Newman
CB - Henry

If Dallas found a backup DT in the draft this defense would be as solid and deep as any in the NFL and with Wade's new scheme this group could be very dangerous to play against.
You're starting another rumor!
 

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We need another NT before we sign our 17th LB..:D
 
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