Sapp on inside the NFL

[Galian Beast]

The Cowboys are the NFL's version of Voldermort. No one wants to admit he is back until you have no choice but to do so.

The Giants haven't been to the post season since 2008, but apparently they are the team to beat in the NFC East? Wasn't it the Commanders earlier in the season, or wasn't it the Eagles in the preseason?

 

[landroverking]

Runs more like Calvin Hill than Eric Dickerson.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Pierce? That guy is higher on the Cowboys than anyone on EPSN. If he hadn't played for the Giants, I'd swear he was a Cowboys fan.

That's what I was thinking.


As for Sapp who gives a crap? The guy is Anti-Cowboys all the way. That's his role in the media and he relishes, or so it seems anyway, taking the idiot approach to everything so let him.

 

[Cajuncowboy]

Sapp said something a few weeks ago on NFLN Gameday and he and Michael were talking. He said that when he was a kid, "Everybody wanted to play for the Cowboys. Everybody wanted that star on their helmet."

I think there is a lot of "Star" envy for some of these players who were never able to wear the star. And that leads to either being jealous or something towards the Cowboys.

 

[Greatestalltime]

He runs unorthodox. Demarcus Ware said on nfln that he makes fun of him in all the time for how he runs. He said he doesn't bring his knees up. I thought he ran a little weird but couldn't put my finger on it until Ware said that. Doesn't matter he is very effective. Best here since 22. :starspin

 

[JohnsKey19]

Sapp is entitled to his opinion which is fine. All I care about is results and right now Murray is getting the job done. Whether or not his running style leads to long-term success is not my concern right now. If we have to worry about finding another lead RB in 2-3 years, then so be it.

 

[Suave]

I'll guarantee that opposing defensive coordinators are sold on him.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

so far, Murray's style is upfield, his style is unique, nobody else is averaging more yards per carry

 

[alancdc]

I think he runs weird too. But he has done very well running the way he does.

Totally agree. I said as much the day after the Rams game. He runs kind of "tight" on cuts, but what the heck....He is obviously productive.

 

[tyke1doe]

He's a tall back, 6''1'? He runs upright and he does have that gait that reminds one of Eric Dickerson. But the one thing he seems to have is good vision and knows how to read blocks. He could be a one hit wonder (Julius Jones), but only time will tell.

I wasn't that sold on Murray either. But there was one play against the Bills that made me change my mind. He took a handoff to the left side of the line. The left tackle, (I believe it was Free) has his man sort of blocked. Murray can either take the play outside or inside. He does a very quick cut inside (which is where he should have gone anyway) and picks up good yardage.

I'm not doing the play justice, but that play, at least to me, spoke volumes of his cutting ability, his willingness to run the ball inside the tackles and his vision. It's the subtle techniques that make running backs (or players of any position) above average/good/great. Not saying Murray will be among the greats, but that play (I wish I could pinpoint it more accurately) told me a lot about him as a running back.

I'm almost confident enough to say that if we continue running and passing the way we have, we not only can get to the playoffs but make a push for the NFC Championship, though I don't think we're there just yet. No team outside of Green Bay really scares me when stacked against a Cowboy that is playing its best football. Cutler can be rattled, even though the Bears defense is good, the 49ers have to play ball control because Alex Smith aint gonna win a shoot out. The Saints defense aint all that good, the Lions we should have smoked, the Giants are pretty good but we're familiar with them, Atlanta can't get out of its own way.

But, I'm getting ahead of myself. We were talking about DeMarco Murray.

 

[tyke1doe]

Sapp was an old veteran on the defensive side of ball. He has more than seen real life as well as film frames on topic. Murray has a unique style, but reminds me a lot of Calvin Hill. Hill's time in the NFL was limited by injury. An upright still that is additionally, very physical, can call into question injury factors. As it even did for a nimble Walter Payton. That is a hazard.

I don't begrudge Sapp pointing towards that fact. It is a relevant view...

Myself, I don't doubt the guts of a man. That is individual. Pain tolerance and function are dependent upon that person, and his acceptance of pain and performance. Pain will make a coward of the best athlete, but if one has a tremendous pain threshold, then there you go...but that part has to be played out.

 

[Doomsday101]

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And that is all I got to say about that. :laugh2:

 

[fifaguy]

Seems like a lot of these former players turned analysts don't have much of a clue about these things.

 

[tyke1doe]

Seems like a lot of these former players turned analysts don't have much of a clue about these things.

I wouldn't say they don't have clue. They just operate from their own perspectives, as do we all.

The general consensus is that backs who run upright expose more of their bodies, take more shots and get injured quicker, slicing time off their careers.

That's a legitimate observation. But it doesn't mean it applies to everyone. Maybe Murray is that back, like Dickerson, who defies conventional wisdom and consensus. Maybe Tim Tebow is that quarterback who defies conventional wisdom and consensus. But it doesn't make those who criticize him based on what's the acceptable norm in football clueless any more than it makes Sapp clueless. Sapp has played against some of the best running backs in the game from Barry Sanders to Emmitt Smith to some of the not-so-best running backs.

I wouldn't quickly discount what he has to say, at least trying to understand why he believes what he says.

 

[panchucko]

He will always say he isn't sold an anything Cowboys, then he will back up his statements with they haven't won anything, and in the NFL it is about winning playoff games and eventually the Super Bowl.

he is an idot.

 

[Bowdown27]

Warren Sapp is an idiot.

Checkmate. Perfectly said

 

[jswalker1981]

Pierce? That guy is higher on the Cowboys than anyone on EPSN. If he hadn't played for the Giants, I'd swear he was a Cowboys fan.

You must not have been listening to Skip Bayless and Collin Cowherd.

 

[Wimbo]

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Originally Posted by CCBoy<a href="http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4250175#post4250175" target="_blank">
Sapp was an old veteran on the defensive side of ball. He has more than seen real life as well as film frames on topic. Murray has a unique style, but reminds me a lot of Calvin Hill. Hill's time in the NFL was limited by injury. An upright still that is additionally, very physical, can call into question injury factors. As it even did for a nimble Walter Payton. That is a hazard.

I don't begrudge Sapp pointing towards that fact. It is a relevant view...

Myself, I don't doubt the guts of a man. That is individual. Pain tolerance and function are dependent upon that person, and his acceptance of pain and performance. Pain will make a coward of the best athlete, but if one has a tremendous pain threshold, then there you go...but that part has to be played out.

 

[TNCowboy]

Who cares?

Schlereth and Wingo were raving about the Cowboys an hour ago on ESPN, especially Murray.

Eric Dickerson ran a lot like that and he's one of the greatest.

 

[sonnyboy]

sapp, antonio pierce, hugh douglas, faulk...I HATE THEM ALL.

I like Pierce. Wouldn't piss on the other threee if they were on fire. Especially douglas since I get enough of his act locally.

Can't wait til the Cowboys clinche the East. I'm going to find him on one of his radio spots and give him a HOW BOUT DEM COWBOYS!